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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Before the conservatives come in and bust a nut over "omg mccain loves america so much" please acknowledge this as a purely political move.

    I wonder how successful it will be.

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    "Work on Bailout" means "Practice for Debate"

    Transparent. Stupid. Desperate.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Nah I don't think he needs debate practice. I think he's just trying to look like a maverick again in the "i'd rather lose the election than lose the economy" mold. I don't think he has much to lose. He's already behind without many game changers left and its not like he's drawing huge crowds without Palin at his side.

    I dunno how much it'll get him but I think its his best move in the past week although thats not saying much.

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    Hasn' he said in the past he would rather do what's right rather than win a campaign?

    This is proof.

    Question is....

    What will Obama do? He has asked Obama to join him.

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    Hasn' he said in the past he would rather do what's right rather than win a campaign?

    This is proof.

    Question is....

    What will Obama do? He has asked Obama to join him.
    Obama already anounced earlier today that he has stopped campaigning to practice on the debate. McCain, IMO fired a sucker punch.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Hasn' he said in the past he would rather do what's right rather than win a campaign?

    This is proof.

    Question is....

    What will Obama do? He has asked Obama to join him.

    LOL @ this being proof. WTF is he going to go do that will make a difference? Explain this to me. Earlier int he week he wasn't even commiting to being there for the vote but of course now he's going to ride back into DC on a white hourse (LDO) and save the ecnomic day?

    This is proof that he needs to do something major in order try to get some momentum back.

    Obama saying he called McCain this morning to issue a joint statement, McCain agreed to this later in the day so we may see that later tonight. Interesting.

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    I heard one news broadcast state that if McCain says no to the bailout, then most House and Senate Republicans will say no. They don't want McCain campaigning against the bailout when they try to explain why they voted for it. Democrats will be reluctant to vote for it, too, if the Republicans vote against it, else Republicans will blame them for big-time government spending.

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    I heard one news broadcast state that if McCain says no to the bailout, then most House and Senate Republicans will say no. They don't want McCain campaigning against the bailout when they try to explain why they voted for it. Democrats will be reluctant to vote for it, too, if the Republicans vote against it, else Republicans will blame them for big-time government spending.
    If McCain votes "No"; and the Republcans follow; he will have earned much kudos from me.

    THAT would be a serious move. A "brave" political stance. I'll believe when I see it.

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    Well if they don't do it, watch as the banks start to fail.

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    Well if they don't do it, watch as the banks start to fail.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    It would def be a brave move to stand up against it with a no vote that actually matters. It really depends on what they take a stand on, though. The bailout in general or certain provisions?

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    This is fairly interesting to watch. Part of me wants to just get everything over with and let the hit the fan. But I'm also really scared that this would indeed mean a great depression type situation here.

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    If McCain votes "No"; and the Republcans follow; he will have earned much kudos from me.

    THAT would be a serious move. A "brave" political stance. I'll believe when I see it.
    It would mean a lot to me, too. He would be standing up to Bush and saying no to bigger government. I don't agree with this bailout one bit. the times will be bad if we don't, but will be much, much worse if we do. Let the market heal itself and stop messing around with it.

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    Earlier int he week he wasn't even commiting to being there for the vote
    not one of those two jackasses planned on going to vote for this initially. the media was calling out either one of these idiots to show some sort of leadership. they finally got the message.

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    John McCain

    McCain Suspending Campaign, Asks for Debate Delay

    Updated 3:26 p.m.
    By Michael D. Shear and Robert Barnes
    NEW YORK -- Republican presidential nominee John McCain this afternoon said he would suspend his presidential campaign tomorrow to return to Washington and help reach agreement on a plan to solve the financial crisis on Wall Street, and called for a delay of Friday night's presidential debate.

    "It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration's proposal,'' McCain said in a brief statement to reporters. "I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.''

    McCain said he is calling on President Bush "to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."
    The campaign also announced that McCain was canceling today's planned appearance on the "Late Show with David Letterman."

    The Obama campaign said that the two candidates had spoken by phone this morning about releasing a joint statement on principles to govern the financial sector bailout, but that it had no plans to suspend campaigning.
    "At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement. "At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."

    Sen. Barack Obama, who is in Florida, will make a statement shortly in response to the McCain announcement.

    McCain's remarks follow:

    America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.

    Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns. This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward. I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.

    It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration's proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

    Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.

    I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.

    We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night's debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.

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    Ah I get it. Not preparing for debate necessarily. Just trying to lower expectations AND look like a hero.

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    reports saying that Dems won't vote "yes" unless mccain does...

    Good news. Kos, Josh Marshall, and others have worried that McCain and other Republicans will vote against the bailout and use this to distance themselves from Bush and drive a populist campaign. Well, it looks like the Dems are making the right noises about stopping this. Stephanopoulis is reporting that Dem leadership is telling the White House and Paulson that unless McCain votes "yes", the bailout won't happen. Maybe these guys are learning after all.
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...700/215/607953

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    This is fairly interesting to watch. Part of me wants to just get everything over with and let the hit the fan. But I'm also really scared that this would indeed mean a great depression type situation here.
    They're throwing those words around so that we support the bailout, IMO.

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    Can we get Ron Paul back into this?

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    reports saying that Dems won't vote "yes" unless mccain does...



    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...700/215/607953
    yeah I don't see how that could backfire dems

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    Originally Posted by MannyIsGod View Post

    Well if they don't do it, watch as the banks start to fail.
    I agree. The banking and insurance compainies, in bed with democrats, have had the highest profit margins in the Fortune 500, yet the democrats are always attacking the oil companies, that at best, are about 1/3 the way down on the Fotune 500 profit margins.

    Time for a change. Let the friend of democrats fall.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Nah, I've seen a lot of independent economists say that we nearly lost it last week with AIG and that we still are on the very edge of things spiraling out of control. Part of it is fear mongering by the Bush administartion, but there is some fire behind the smoke as well.

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    Hasn' he said in the past he would rather do what's right rather than win a campaign?

    This is proof.

    Question is....

    What will Obama do? He has asked Obama to join him.
    Hey dumbass do your research, Obama initiated talks with McCain on doing this. McCain just ran to the media first

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