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    Two cans of paint, baby.

    You spray the Black Checks

    I'll spray the Red X's

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    Except that the call for tougher regulation of the two was to counter the restatement of earnings, not stop buying ty mortgages.

    FAIL.
    You might recall that this followed shortly on the heels of Enron, Worldcom, etc.

    This was around the time Peekaboo (PCAOB) was established in order to take charge of the setting of accounting standards.

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    SEC rule change last summer is what caused this?

    How long have these mortgages been out there?
    Please find and refer to the correct thread for farther questions to me on the matter.

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    Except that the call for tougher regulation of the two was to counter the restatement of earnings, not stop buying ty mortgages.

    FAIL.
    Why do you think they went under?? Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) allowed them to recognize the highest payment of option ARMs (the principle and interest payment amount) when they were only receiving the lowest monthly payment on option ARMs (the below interest, negative amortization amount).

    *Edit - maybe I linked the wrong article, but this has been discussed ad infinitum in this forum.

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    I was watching fox, they had the head of the commission on...she said the debate was going to be on Friday in MS no matter what. Thats what I heard and thats what I typed. I'm not arguing with you, i'm just letting people know what is going on in case they aren't by a tv.
    I, for one, appreciate it. I hope the debate stays on Friday (regardless of location).

    But if it were moved, I'd understand. They are Senators, they should vote on the single greatest financial risk undertaken by the American taxpayer in US history.

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    That is BS

    McCain is on the ropes now. Obama has put up a 10 pt lead. McCain knows that everything hinges on the economy as to who gets elected.

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    So he can't synthesize and process information from a remote location? He needs his sense of smell, taste and touch in order to cast an informed vote?

    You're really reaching here.
    No I'm not, think about it. Friday will be an all day session in the senate. There will be no designated time for the votes. It could be done in the early afternoon, or late evening, or even past midnight and beyond.

    You obviously don't know how the senate works.

    Running continual speeches, debates, information throughout the session, it will be impossible to focus on two things. Even is the debate is rescheduled, there is no way to know if the senate session will finish in time.

    This is classic McCain. Doing what he believes is right. I'm starting to respect him even more, even though I disagree with many of his ideas.

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    No I'm not, think about it. Friday will be an all day session in the senate. There will be no designated time for the votes. It could be done in the early afternoon, or late evening, or even past midnight and beyond.

    You obviously don't know how the senate works.

    Running continual speeches, debates, information throughout the session, it will be impossible to focus on two things. Even is the debate is rescheduled, there is no way to know if the senate session will finish in time.

    This is classic McCain. Doing what he believes is right. I'm starting to respect him even more, even though I disagree with many of his ideas.
    Neither one of them chairs a committee handling the bailout. This is just posturing by McCain.

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    and wtf is "Suspending is campaign" supposed to mean, considering at this point in both campaigns much of the work is done by his staffers and the RNC anyway? Will he stop running ads telling us lies? Stop running negative attack ads again Obama? Or just stop going around offering really ty, poorly attended stump speeches? Cause that last thing hardly seems like much of a sacrifice.

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    Listening to Obama right now, he isn't saying anything important.

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    BTW, George Bush gets a big ing F for the way he's handling things right now. Someone tell the asshole he's still president and he can't check out just yet.

    Dang Manny, give the guy a break. You ever been given a pressing assignment at 4:30 when you're supposed to get out of the office at 5:00? That sucks, man.

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    I already addressed that in a different thread.


    I don't know the details. It could be lack of republican support, or senate democrat filibuster.


    It was government regulation to make bad loans in the interest of community development that caused this, along with an SEC rule change last summer.

    Please find and refer to the correct thread for farther questions to me on the matter.
    Your problem is that you fail to acknowledge my superior knowledge of financial matters, if I may paraphrase one of your posts from another thread.

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    and wtf is "Suspending is campaign" supposed to mean, considering at this point in both campaigns much of the work is done by his staffers and the RNC anyway? Will he stop running ads telling us lies? Stop running negative attack ads again Obama? Or just stop going around offering really ty, poorly attended stump speeches? Cause that last thing hardly seems like much of a sacrifice.
    Yes supergirl...he is also cancelling all of his appearances with Chris Rock as well.

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    and wtf is "Suspending is campaign" supposed to mean, considering at this point in both campaigns much of the work is done by his staffers and the RNC anyway? Will he stop running ads telling us lies? Stop running negative attack ads again Obama? Or just stop going around offering really ty, poorly attended stump speeches? Cause that last thing hardly seems like much of a sacrifice.
    Suspending is not quitting. McCain simply is going to stop campaigning for at least Friday while he actually does what he was elected for as a senator. I guess Obama doesn't take his job seriously.

    McCain will resume campaigning. He simply wants to focus only on the current crisis. Obama is still more concerned about winning rather than what's right.

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    Listening to Obama right now, he isn't saying anything important.
    Glad to have such an unbiased observer fill us in.

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    Your problem is that you fail to acknowledge my superior knowledge of financial matters, if I may paraphrase one of your posts from another thread.
    Please stay on the thread topic. It's growing fast, and doesn't need your vindictive trollish bull .

    Please find and refer to the correct thread for farther questions to me on the matter.

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    they're talking to obamessiah now and he's still bringing up a stimulus package. that it doesn't need to be in this bailout.

    stimulus package?!

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    Why do you think they went under?? Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) allowed them to recognize the highest payment of option ARMs (the principle and interest payment amount) when they were only receiving the lowest monthly payment on option ARMs (the below interest, negative amortization amount).

    *Edit - maybe I linked the wrong article, but this has been discussed ad infinitum in this forum.
    They didn't go under because of this. They went under because they bought ty debt.

    People have been pointing out that these ARMs and general loan practices in the run up to this have been a disaster waiting to happen for years.

    Bush, or more likely, Cheney ignored this information because of his enduring faith in "the market" to sort this out and that there didn't need to be any regulation of lending practices.

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    Please stay on the thread topic. It's growing fast, and doesn't need your vindictive trollish bull .
    Then provide the link to the thread, asshole.

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    McCain will resume campaigning. He simply wants to focus only on the current crisis. Obama is still more concerned about winning rather than what's right.
    BAA-AA-AA-AA-AA-AA

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    mccain is not a multi-tasker. it's too much to ask of a man his age. we need a president that can handle more than one thing at a time.

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    Obama winning is what is right for America!!!

    Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

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    they're talking to obamessiah now and he's still bringing up a stimulus package. that it doesn't need to be in this bailout.

    stimulus package?!
    Oh jesus christ. Someone asked him a question and he said he called Pelosi and Reid and told them not to include any of the democratic pet projects they wanted to include in the deal.

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    Then provide the link to the thread, asshole.
    I don't remember the link.

    Do your own homework.

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