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    I gotta say, so far I think Obama is playing this perfectly. McCain is coming off as desprate and really political so far. I'm extremely biased, and I'm not going to deny that, so my perspective isn't that of the average American.

    I do think that so far I don't think Obama has made any big misteps in handling this and that may be the most important thing for him to do right now.
    That is what I am thinking. He needs to stay his own course and not make any mistakes. But still find a way to make the debate.
    I am convinced this is his chance to crush McCain.

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    I wasn't aware that Obama or McCain was the POTUS.

    So who won?
    They're both running for the job. Try and keep up.

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    McCain Wants A Time Out -- But Why?

    Why does John McCain suddenly want to suspend his presidential campaign and postpone Friday's debate? His campaign surrogates are saying it's a typical "maverick" move, that McCain is simply "putting country first." Let's look at the evidence:

    1) As Ben Smith notes, McCain's move "is a mark, most of all, that he doesn't like the way this campaign is going. ... The only thing that's changed in the last 48 hours is the public polling."

    2) The idea of uniting the campaigns to find a bipartisan solution to the Wall Street crisis wasn't even McCain's idea. A few minutes ago, Obama spokesman Bill Burton emailed to reporters:
    "At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."
    3) John McCain has skipped more votes during this session than any member of the Senate except for Tim Johnson, who had major brain surgery. He hasn't cast a single vote in five months, since April 9. All of a sudden, McCain is demanding that the presidential race shut down so he can return to Washington?

    4) A reminder: President Bush was able to debate John Kerry while he was president. For all of his sudden urgency, McCain acknowledged just yesterday that he had not even read the administration's three-page bailout proposal.

    5) It's not at all clear that having McCain and Obama back in DC will actually help. "What does seem apparent, though, is that putting the two candidates in the negotiating room is far more likely to distract--and derail--negotiations than having them out on the hustings," Jonathan Cohn writes at the New Republic.

    It's impossible to know why McCain chose this course, but it sure seems like more of a political stunt than a maverick moment.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...tml?view=print

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    McCain's move is obviously one of weakness. But he's made yet another rather impressive move. The next 24 hours are crucial.

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    being conservative doesn't mean you have to be republican.
    True. Too may republicans are too liberal.
    in fact republicans are acting a lot more like fascists if you ask me.
    Really? You should look that term up. It's the democrats who want to implement authoritarian policies, not republicans. It's democrats who say things like "I want to take their profits."

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    Wild Cobra has become the worst poster on this entire forum over the past few weeks. It's disgusting.

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    True. Too may republicans are too liberal.

    Really? You should look that term up. It's the democrats who want to implement authoritarian policies, not republicans. It's democrats who say things like "I want to take their profits."
    And Republicans who say "let the banks over the little people, we'll bail the banks and their sucker leadership out and let all the little people get ed again paying for it." Right.

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    On Obama saying that "they can deal with more than one thing at at time";

    Here's a parallel, if I'm on the job and I get an emergency call for an immediate family member, I stop what I'm doing to attend the emergency.
    Of course I'd have the option of staying at work and monitoring the emergency via phone, but then I come across as uncaring, putting something of lesser importance (practicing for a debate? More campaign bs?, c'mon!) above an emergency.

    Take a couple of days off and tend to the crisis at hand, a short postponement of the campaign/debate won't hurt anything.
    Analogy FAIL

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    Schwarzenegger showed similar wisdom when he canceles his appearance at the RNC to devote time to Cali's budget deadlock.



    All of a sudden debates are of the utmost important to Obama. Yeah...

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    Opinion.

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    Wild Cobra has become the worst poster on this entire forum over the past few weeks. It's disgusting.
    I dunno. DarrinS thinking hanging an effigy of a black man is funny puts him in the running.

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    They're both running for the job. Try and keep up.
    I would type typed in FAIL, but seeing how this is a pixelpusher quote, it would have been redundant to have done so.

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    I would type typed in FAIL, but seeing how this is a pixelpusher quote, it would have been redundant to have done so.

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    Were any of you calling for Obama and McCain to postpone the debates before today? Just curious. Because if it's such a great idea and the most responsible thing to do (especially if you put your country ahead of your campaign), you'd think the idea would have been brought up a few days ago.

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    Schwarzenegger showed similar wisdom when he canceles his appearance at the RNC to devote time to Cali's budget deadlock.



    All of a sudden debates are of the utmost important to Obama. Yeah...
    I'm sorry was the Governator running for an office at that time? No.

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    Wild Cobra has become the worst poster on this entire forum over the past few weeks. It's disgusting.
    Its not like he had a real high point to fall from but he's seriously horrible right now. Every single one of his posts really put me on tilt so badly.

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    Were any of you calling for Obama and McCain to postpone the debates before today? Just curious. Because if it's such a great idea and the most responsible thing to do (especially if you put your country ahead of your campaign), you'd think the idea would have been brought up a few days ago.

    I think most people thought the bailout was a done deal, that Congress was going to rubber stamp the bailout request. McCain possibly leading the way to block it changes all that.

    The focus should be on the possible bailout being thwarted, not the debate.

    Nice to see that someone has some balls.

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    I'm sorry was the Governator running for an office at that time? No.
    Who were you asking?



    Thanks for posting your personal question and answer session manny.
    Last edited by jochhejaam; 09-24-2008 at 10:46 PM.

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    Who were you asking?



    Thanks for posting your personal question and answer session manny.
    I was providing you the answer since at this time I severely doubt your ability to provide it yourself.

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    This old lady comes into my work today and says "Have you heard the latest news" And I'm thinking to myself "Oh i hope it ain't zombies" Then she brought this up, but with a different reaction for Obama. And I think to myself needs to stop listening to WOAI and get both sides.

    I'll add i don't care who wins this election cause we're screwed either way

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    Marilyn Rae Lover jochhejaam's Avatar
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    I was providing you the answer since at this time I severely doubt your ability to provide it yourself.
    Oh, I get it now... I thought you were just showing everyone how bright you were.

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    Letterman is having a field day with this!!

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    Letterman is having a field day with this!!
    I knew it was coming so I tuned in for once...


    Showing McCain with Couric was awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Letterman was pissed.

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    Damn! I haven't seen Letterman go off on anyone like that since his NBC days!

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