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    "Early Wednesday, at 8:30 a.m. EST, Obama called McCain to propose that the two candidates attempt to take a leadership role in responding to the economic crisis. Concerned that no consensus was emerging from negotiations between Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and leaders in Congress, Obama suggested that he and his Republican rival outline shared goals for any bailout of troubled banks and financial-services ins utions.

    Specifically, Obama proposed that the two author a joint statement of "shared principles and conditions" for a bailout. McCain responded around 2:30 p.m. EST Wednesday to express his willingness to work with Obama.

    Then, at 3 p.m. EST, without alerting Obama or the Democrat's campaign to his intentions, McCain called a press conference to announce that he would stop campaigning in order to return to Washington to focus on the "historic" crisis facing the U.S. economy."

    "As the afternoon progressed, Obama graciously announced that -- despite McCain's behavior -- he was still willing to work with the Republican, and that he would go to Washington or anywhere else if it was thought that doing so might help to resolve the crisis."

    "...everyone who is paying attention to the 2008 campaign learned something Wednesday about John McCain. The man who so frequently denigrates diplomacy apparently has so little respect for the one-on-one relationship that underpins any serious negotiation between powerful figures that he would play political games even in the midst of what he admits is a "historic" crisis.

    While McCain was trying to make himself look like a leader, the Republican contender instead confirmed that he is uniquely unqualified to serve in a position that requires his occupant to win and retain the trust of those with whom he negotiates."

    http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/100235

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    So McDoubleCross, putting the "country first", ed and sandbagged HUSSEIN's private attempt at bi-partisanship, reaching across the "campaign aisle", which McLiar says HUSSEIN doesn't do, while McMeFirstLastAndAlways proclaims himself to be bi-partisan.

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    Damn! I haven't seen Letterman go off on anyone like that since his NBC days!
    Really been a tough couple of weeks for poor McCain since the convention ended.

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    I dunno. DarrinS thinking hanging an effigy of a black man is funny puts him in the running.


    I never said it was funny so don't put words in my mouth.

    It's absolutely humorless -- kinda like you.

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    Suspending his campaign and postponing the debate with HUSSEIN that he wanted oh so badly for oh so long are just gimmicks to try save his cratering in the polls after the dead-moose poll bounce in the polls.

    A HUGE bet on his part, and VERY PRESIDENTIAL, to say nothing of CLASSY.

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    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...linton-do.html

    Bill Clinton: Don't 'Overly Parse' McCain Request to Delay Debate

    September 25, 2008 8:26 AM
    ABC News' Nitya Venkataraman Reports: Former President Bill Clinton defended Sen. John McCain's request to delay the first presidential debate, saying McCain did it in "good faith" and pushed organizers to reserve time for economy talk during the debate if the Friday plans move forward.
    Appearing on Good Morning America Thursday, Clinton told ABC News' Chris Cuomo that McCain's push to postpone the debate would only be a good political move if both candidates agreed. McCain announced on Wednesday that he would "suspend" his presidential campaign to come to Washington to help negotiate a financial bailout bill


    "We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.
    "You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."
    If the debate moves forward as planned for Friday night, Clinton says "they should be able to talk about this some of the debate because it is a security issue."

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    LMAO when they cut to couric

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    LMAO when they cut to couric

    What made it worse was the fact that they showed him getting his face prepped. Thats what put it over the top....

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    The president has invited the bicameral and bipartisan leadership, and the two senators running for president, to the White House tomorrow "to work on driving to a bipartisan and timely solution."
    That's funny that Bush bails out Obama. This gives Obama an excuse to go to DC instead of looking like he's following McCain around.

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    Jesus Christ I'm starting to think its better to have Bill Clinton just STFU. I'm starting to cringe anytime I see a headline with the words Bill and Clinton in it.

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    Jesus Christ I'm starting to think its better to have Bill Clinton just STFU. I'm starting to cringe anytime I see a headline with the words Bill and Clinton in it.
    Dude promised Hillary the presidency to save his "marriage" and legacy.

    Trying like to deliver in '12.

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    Well, 101, youre very different than most conservatives on this forum. Its my impression that you may be partisan but that you will not be lead blindly, red or blue.

    Can you say the same of the resident liberals/conservatives here? I think not.
    Pot...........meet Kettle!

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    I never said it was funny so don't put words in my mouth.

    It's absolutely humorless -- kinda like you.
    My mistake. You don't see what's racist about hanging an effigy of a black man.

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    Pot...........meet Kettle!
    You dont know -all about me, partisan.

    Your idea of input is regurgitation. You havent had an original thought of your own since you created your screen name, and I am not entirely sure you didnt lift that "great hook" either.

    You swoop in every 3rd month and do nothing but quote other like-minded lemmings in agreement. Youre as useless as a used condom and twice as full of yourself.

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    You dont know -all about me, partisan.

    Your idea of input is regurgitation. You havent had an original thought of your own since you created your screen name, and I am not entirely sure you didnt lift that "great hook" either.

    You swoop in every 3rd month and do nothing but quote other like-minded lemmings in agreement. Youre as useless as a used condom and twice as full of yourself.
    Ouch.

    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    It's a good thing he's suspending his campaign. He hadn't even read the plan before congress!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnsNOEgp-_o


    ANCHOR: As for the massive Wall Street bailout McCain insists it have...

    JSM: Oversight that is effective and transparent. We need people like Warren Buffet and Mike Bloomberg and Mitt Romney to have an oversight of this. We can’t put that responsibility in the hands of one person.

    ANCHOR: The crunch question. Would you vote for it as it’s presently constructed?

    JSM: I have not had a chance to see it in writing so I have to examine that.

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    That's funny that Bush bails out Obama. This gives Obama an excuse to go to DC instead of looking like he's following McCain around.
    the bailout shouldn't be political, so Bush did the right thing. If Obama needed a political out, and I'm not sure he did, but if he did the right thing was Bush giving him one.

    "Country First" corny but true.

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    Hasn' he said in the past he would rather do what's right rather than win a campaign?

    This is proof.

    Question is....

    What will Obama do? He has asked Obama to join him.

    You're a moron if you believe this. They can make you believe anything they want you to. You fall for it every time.

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    http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/...campaign_m.php

    Candidates have made a lot of unforced errors over the years. Richard Nixon promising to campaign in all 50 states when running against John Kennedy in 1960 -- and getting sick, tired, and cadaver-looking as a result. Nixon again thinking he had to get those crucial Democratic National Committee records from the Watergate building in 1972. (He obviously made it through the election, but then....) Dukakis getting into the tank in 1988.

    But compared with John McCain "suspending" his campaign and trying to postpone the debates? Puh-leeze. None of the reasons below is original, but it's worth adding them up to see how risky McCain's proposal is, in giving people impressions he doesn't want to convey.

    * The senator with (understandably) one of the lowest actual-attendance rates at the Capitol in the last two years, and who has played little role in crafting legislation recently, suddenly needs to be nowhere but Washington -- exactly now?

    * The candidate whose strongest claim to office is his experience, mastery, and understanding of foreign policy, cannot handle a debate on that topic, against a rookie, when he has other things on his mind?

    * The candidate who wants to quash any su ion that he is not quick enough, not vigorous enough, or not multi-tasking enough to handle a job that poses a new challenge every minute, is essentially asking for everyone to take things a little slower so he can concentrate?

    * The candidate whose first response to the financial crisis was to propose firing the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission, and whose second response was to run ads linking his opponent (hazily) to former Fannie Mae officials (before news came out that his own campaign manager was still on the Freddie Mac payroll), now wants us to believe that statesmanship and love of country govern his every move on this issue?

    * The most famously stoic candidate of recent times is willing to have it look as if he's running away from a confrontation while he's behind.

    Now, maybe I am misjudging my fellow citizens. Maybe most people will say: Yes, it's perfectly understandable that John McCain, having traveled constantly for years on the campaign trail, suddenly can't make it down to Mississippi on Friday. We respect him all the more! But I don't think this is some mass-vs-elite type question. This involves basic "dog ate my homework" appearances that anyone can understand.

    To my taste, the strongest moment in John McCain's long debating history happened more than eight years ago, when he took on George W. Bush in South Carolina. McCain was furious at Bush for the underhanded campaign ads the Bush-Rove campaign had run against him in the South. He excoriated Bush (description of the whole scene after the jump) and, with acid in his voice, said "You should be ashamed."

    If that John McCain were still around, I can guess what he would think about the man now campaigning under his previously-good name.
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    From my July 2004 Atlantic article, "When George Meets John":

    On February 15, four days before the [South Carolina] vote, Bush and McCain appeared together on Larry King Live (along with Alan Keyes, the motormouth former ambassador, who was still in the race). Beneath a smile, McCain was seething. Two weeks earlier he had pulled off a surprising victory over the much better financed Bush in New Hampshire. Bush had responded in South Carolina by attacking McCain mercilessly from the right. On Larry King, Bush and McCain traded complaints about unfair negative campaign ads. Bush's complaint was that McCain had run an ad comparing him to Bill Clinton. "That's about as low a blow as you can give in a Republican primary!" he said.

    McCain held a tight smile. "Let me tell you what really went over the line," he said shortly afterward, when asked by King for a reply. At a recent Bush rally Bush had stood alongside someone McCain called "a spokesman for a fringe veterans' group," who had denounced McCain for "abandoning" Vietnam veterans.

    With feigned politeness, McCain told Bush, "I don't know if you can understand this, George, but that really hurts. It really hurts." No mention of McCain's service as a military pilot, nor of his imprisonment and torture in the "Hanoi Hilton"; everyone knew what McCain meant. McCain turned to King. "And so five United States senators--Vietnam veterans, heroes, some of them really incredible heroes--wrote George a letter and said, 'Apologize.' You should be ashamed."

    Bush sputtered, "Let me speak to that ..."

    McCain faced him again, calm but contemptuous: "You should be ashamed."

    It went on for minutes. Bush protested McCain's underhanded tricks--why, one of McCain's supporters, the former senator Warren Rudman, had said that the Christian Coalition included "bigots." Of McCain's military heroism Bush lamely said, "I'm proud of your record, just like you are," and conceded--in an "okay, are you happy now?" tone--that McCain had "served his country well" and had not abandoned veterans. But he was still unhappy himself: "You can disagree with me on issues, John, but do not question--do not question my trustworthiness, and do not compare me to Bill Clinton." It was Bush's worst onstage moment in the 2000 [primary] campaign.

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    Ok, I don't get it. I can understand doing the CBS interview instead of Letterman -- but why did he spend the night in New York and didn't leave until 11 or so when the emergency was going to be discussed in DC in the morning?

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    I'm more interested in knowing why his campaign offices are still open, why his ads are still running, and why his people are still on TV spewing the same bull they were before.

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    HE SUSPENDED HIS CAMPAIGN!!!

    Still has his campaign offices open

    Still running ads

    Stilling taking in contributions

    Still having his cronies bash Obama on TV

    lol

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    An overwhelming percentage of Americans do not want Friday's scheduled presidential debate to be delayed because of the Wall Street crisis, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted in the hours after the possibility was raised.

    Republican presidential nominee John McCain (web|news|bio) on Wednesday called on Democratic rival Barack Obama (web|news|bio) to postpone Friday's debate to deal with the nation's financial problems.Obama rejected the offer, saying, "it's more important than ever" that the country hear from its next president.

    SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 adults nationwide Wednesday afternoon, finding that, in sum, 86 percent of Americans supported holding the debate as scheduled. Fifty percent wanted the debate to be held as planned. An additional 36 percent wanted the debate to focus on the economy. Just 10 percent of respondents said the debate should be postponed. Four percent were undecided.

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    If I were a McCain supporter I'd be hard pressed to support him as a candidate at this point. It's just becoming embarrassing now, I have no idea what McCain's handlers are telling him to do but they are seriously ing up any chance he has of winning this election.

    McCain was one of the few Republicans I had respect for, quite frankly because of how he ran his campaign in '00. He may have lost, but he did so with dignity. When this election is over, he'll have none left. If Republicans lose this year they will be in serious disarray for a long time coming. Honestly, it's probably for the best that the Republican beast be dismantled and the party find out who they really are.

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    If I were a McCain supporter I'd be hard pressed to support him as a candidate at this point. It's just becoming embarrassing now, I have no idea what McCain's handlers are telling him to do but they are seriously ing up any chance he has of winning this election.

    McCain was one of the few Republicans I had respect for, quite frankly because of how he ran his campaign in '00. He may have lost, but he did so with dignity. When this election is over, he'll have none left. If Republicans lose this year they will be in serious disarray for a long time coming. Honestly, it's probably for the best that the Republican beast be dismantled and the party find out who they really are.
    Exactly what im thinking, he starts crying about suspending his campaign to rescue the economy and sits in his little corner keeping to himself during the meeting. Comical tbh

    Barack Obama reaffirmed his ability to lead.

    He has been organized and completely composed through out this whole situation bravo to him.

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