Canada is starting to look real good right about now!

[velik_m]

How complicated is it anyway for americans to migrate to Canada? I asume they don't just let anybody into their country?

[DarkReign]

I didn't think you were talking to me. I based my opinion on my direct experience with former Canadians.

No, it certainly wasnt directed at you.

[cool hand]

[DarkReign]

oooohkaaaay. I'll bite. What is wrong with Canada? eh?

If you were expecting a short paragraph on the ills of Canada, youd be mistaken.

I personally have no problem with Canada or its system. But I also love hockey and therefore post on a very large hockey forum which is (obviously) populated by a vast majority of Canadians.

Well, their version of a Political Forum is actually hidden from the main page. In order to access it, you must explicity enter the forum ID in the url (in this case, its 160).

Since it is hidden, you cannot search inside it. On such a large board, you tend to forget what threads you posted in to "check back" on any responses/retorts that may have been directed your way.

Anyway, it has been thru that random reading of their PF that I have come away with a different impression of Canada, politically speaking, than I had beforehand.

First and foremost, they are obssesed with America. In all facets, so if your idea was to emmigrate to Canada to avoid such things affecting your life, you'd have already ed up by hop-scotching North. They, the People, literally spend more time debating American politics than they do their own. Why? Because their entire system is based on the synergy with the US. Your average Canadian (except Quebecois) probably know more about our politicians than they do their own.

For example, there is a stickied thread about the upcoming elections in Canada. It has 9 responses. On the other hand, the "The Dark Side of Hussein Obama - Vol. III" has 772 replies and over 12000 views.

Their major media outlets are government controlled (CBC), but IMO, rather unbiased. But this leads to group-think and commonality.

So, did I ever live in Canada and can now confidently speak of its inferiority?

Of course not. I dont know anything about their healthcare system beyond what my family says about it in passing. Theyre from Ontario and they are both heavy smokers and heavy, re-defining-alcoholics. They get their medications and treatments when needed, and thats all I know.

I know the way they deal with poor is entirely different from America's. In America, we build public housing (projects) all together in small communities. This festers crime and generational inep ude.

In Canada, thier version of public housing is building an apartment building or two right smack dab in the middle of a nice neighborhood. They do this all over the country (again, cant speak for Quebec.....there is a reason they want to secede).

They do a lot of things well in Canada, which is understandable when their population is less than California's, but spread out over the length of our northern border. They are much more similiar to Europe than America (right down to their system of government) which makes them more socialist than Americans could ever stand (on average).

But the point was, if the premise of an argument starts and ends with "I want to leave America because it sucks" and your big idea is to move to Canada, then you obviously dont know abut Canada.

/point

[RandomGuy]

If you were expecting a short paragraph on the ills of Canada, youd be mistaken.

I personally have no problem with Canada or its system. But I also love hockey and therefore post on a very large hockey forum which is (obviously) populated by a vast majority of Canadians.

Well, their version of a Political Forum is actually hidden from the main page. In order to access it, you must explicity enter the forum ID in the url (in this case, its 160).

Since it is hidden, you cannot search inside it. On such a large board, you tend to forget what threads you posted in to "check back" on any responses/retorts that may have been directed your way.

Anyway, it has been thru that random reading of their PF that I have come away with a different impression of Canada, politically speaking, than I had beforehand.

First and foremost, they are obssesed with America. In all facets, so if your idea was to emmigrate to Canada to avoid such things affecting your life, you'd have already ed up by hop-scotching North. They, the People, literally spend more time debating American politics than they do their own. Why? Because their entire system is based on the synergy with the US. Your average Canadian (except Quebecois) probably know more about our politicians than they do their own.

For example, there is a stickied thread about the upcoming elections in Canada. It has 9 responses. On the other hand, the "The Dark Side of Hussein Obama - Vol. III" has 772 replies and over 12000 views.

Their major media outlets are government controlled (CBC), but IMO, rather unbiased. But this leads to group-think and commonality.

So, did I ever live in Canada and can now confidently speak of its inferiority?

Of course not. I dont know anything about their healthcare system beyond what my family says about it in passing. Theyre from Ontario and they are both heavy smokers and heavy, re-defining-alcoholics. They get their medications and treatments when needed, and thats all I know.

I know the way they deal with poor is entirely different from America's. In America, we build public housing (projects) all together in small communities. This festers crime and generational inep ude.

In Canada, thier version of public housing is building an apartment building or two right smack dab in the middle of a nice neighborhood. They do this all over the country (again, cant speak for Quebec.....there is a reason they want to secede).

They do a lot of things well in Canada, which is understandable when their population is less than California's, but spread out over the length of our northern border. They are much more similiar to Europe than America (right down to their system of government) which makes them more socialist than Americans could ever stand (on average).

But the point was, if the premise of an argument starts and ends with "I want to leave America because it sucks" and your big idea is to move to Canada, then you obviously dont know abut Canada.

/point

Cool. Thanks! This was exactly what I was looking for actually.

I would have no qualms about moving to such a "socialist" state.

FYI, in the US, such concentrated housing projects are getting the old heave-ho as well.

A lot of them have been outright demolished to make way for mixed-use developments.

The jury is still out on whether this would help succeed in breaking a crushing cycle of poverty, but from what I have seen, the results are encouraging.

[Horn Tooter]

If you were expecting a short paragraph on the ills of Canada, youd be mistaken.

I personally have no problem with Canada or its system. But I also love hockey and therefore post on a very large hockey forum which is (obviously) populated by a vast majority of Canadians.

Well, their version of a Political Forum is actually hidden from the main page. In order to access it, you must explicity enter the forum ID in the url (in this case, its 160).

Since it is hidden, you cannot search inside it. On such a large board, you tend to forget what threads you posted in to "check back" on any responses/retorts that may have been directed your way.

Anyway, it has been thru that random reading of their PF that I have come away with a different impression of Canada, politically speaking, than I had beforehand.

First and foremost, they are obssesed with America. In all facets, so if your idea was to emmigrate to Canada to avoid such things affecting your life, you'd have already ed up by hop-scotching North. They, the People, literally spend more time debating American politics than they do their own. Why? Because their entire system is based on the synergy with the US. Your average Canadian (except Quebecois) probably know more about our politicians than they do their own.

For example, there is a stickied thread about the upcoming elections in Canada. It has 9 responses. On the other hand, the "The Dark Side of Hussein Obama - Vol. III" has 772 replies and over 12000 views.

Their major media outlets are government controlled (CBC), but IMO, rather unbiased. But this leads to group-think and commonality.

So, did I ever live in Canada and can now confidently speak of its inferiority?

Of course not. I dont know anything about their healthcare system beyond what my family says about it in passing. Theyre from Ontario and they are both heavy smokers and heavy, re-defining-alcoholics. They get their medications and treatments when needed, and thats all I know.

I know the way they deal with poor is entirely different from America's. In America, we build public housing (projects) all together in small communities. This festers crime and generational inep ude.

In Canada, thier version of public housing is building an apartment building or two right smack dab in the middle of a nice neighborhood. They do this all over the country (again, cant speak for Quebec.....there is a reason they want to secede).

They do a lot of things well in Canada, which is understandable when their population is less than California's, but spread out over the length of our northern border. They are much more similiar to Europe than America (right down to their system of government) which makes them more socialist than Americans could ever stand (on average).

But the point was, if the premise of an argument starts and ends with "I want to leave America because it sucks" and your big idea is to move to Canada, then you obviously dont know abut Canada.

/point

[spursfan09]

They have great health care, so long as you don't die while waiting your turn.

at least there is a line to wait in. Here we would just die having no insurance

[spursfan09]

Canada should start building a wall. Don't want those immigrants coming.

[SpursFanFirst]

I take it you never complain? I bet you go bed in red white and blue PJs just like Sean Hannity.

As a matter of fact, I don't need red, white, and blue jammies....

Hair = Red
Skin = White
Eyes = Blue

[j-6]

I honeymooned in Quebec City last year and came away very impressed with it. Granted, the rest of my Canadian experience is ty bars in Windsor and a week in Mississauga working, but we did quite a bit of driving around in La Belle Province. The price of goods (and sales tax) was absurd but the roads were nice, the streets were safe and vibrant, and the people were great. Regarding public housing, I did notice a lot of shabby apartment buildings in areas of town I didn't expect them. I figured the hired help had to live somewhere and that was just how they did things. I was wearing a Longhorn shirt one day and several times when locals figured out we were from Texas, they wanted to take a picture with us. (I have a picture with a couple in old-school Nordiques jerseys doing the hook 'em with me and the missus.)

Sorta quaint, I guess, but we were from a long ways away. We even got a free bottle of wine one night when the maitre d learned where we were from. What was interesting was when we met another couple of honeymooners from Calgary at a pub that ragged on ''the Frenchies'' right after we left the restaurant.

Maybe I should start learning French, just in case.

[mouse]

Really who gives a what the people talk, smell, or act like?

Will I have a 401K when retire? If i break my arm will I need a credit check before they help me put the bones back in the skin?

If my son goes to war will he come back after his two year duty or will he be lied too?

Can I go to the store at night and not worry about being involved in a robbery?

Will my home still be there with my flat screen or will it be gone and I have to patch the bullet holes from the last drive by.

Will the hwy i take to work be under construction for 8 years?

Can I download a Bob Dylan song off the www without having to close my blinds and lock the doors?

Will i have to worry about some Mexican taking over my job the next day for less pay?

People who say if you don't love America then leave!

They forget this is not America anymore.

[Buddy Holly]

I think Palin told Katie Couric today she can see Canada from her house too.

[Spur-Addict]

As a matter of fact, I don't need red, white, and blue jammies....

Hair = Red
Skin = White
Eyes = Blue

Do you just wear jammies/other clothes that aren't red, white and blue? Or do you not wear clothes at all?

Also, Canada is great, I never lived there but i've spent alot of time there.

[Jeff Probst]

Most of you couldn't survive outside the USA!

[san antonio spurs]

what's really funny is the denial americans seem to be in. Canadians feel sorry for you, heck the whole world feels sorry for you.
only you guys still think you're that great and .

[SpursFanFirst]

Do you just wear jammies/other clothes that aren't red, white and blue? Or do you not wear clothes at all?

Also, Canada is great, I never lived there but i've spent alot of time there.

It just depends.

[T Park]

what's really funny is the denial americans seem to be in. Canadians feel sorry for you, heck the whole world feels sorry for you.
only you guys still think you're that great and .

Yeah we do have the greatest country in the world. We just make some ed up choices.

You couldn't move me to any other country in the world.

[velik_m]

How complicated is it anyway for Americans to migrate to Canada? I assume they don't just let anybody into their country?

Anyone?

[baseline bum]

You have to live 3 of the previous 4 years there as a permanent resident, pass a test on the history and the current state of Canada, and be able to speak one of English and French.

[ElNono]

My sister lived in Alberta for 7 years. She owned a house there, and she always said it was really nice. I actually went to visit her about 5 years ago, but couldn't get much of an impression in the 2 weeks I spent there. I really haven't heard her complain about the taxes or the healthcare. She actually gave birth to a very healthy and cute daughter there.
She went back to Argentina 3 years ago because she wanted her daughter to grow up with the rest of the family.

I probably couldn't live there, as I already hate the Jersey winter.

[dg7md]

If you were expecting a short paragraph on the ills of Canada, youd be mistaken.

I personally have no problem with Canada or its system. But I also love hockey and therefore post on a very large hockey forum which is (obviously) populated by a vast majority of Canadians.

Well, their version of a Political Forum is actually hidden from the main page. In order to access it, you must explicity enter the forum ID in the url (in this case, its 160).

Since it is hidden, you cannot search inside it. On such a large board, you tend to forget what threads you posted in to "check back" on any responses/retorts that may have been directed your way.

Anyway, it has been thru that random reading of their PF that I have come away with a different impression of Canada, politically speaking, than I had beforehand.

First and foremost, they are obssesed with America. In all facets, so if your idea was to emmigrate to Canada to avoid such things affecting your life, you'd have already ed up by hop-scotching North. They, the People, literally spend more time debating American politics than they do their own. Why? Because their entire system is based on the synergy with the US. Your average Canadian (except Quebecois) probably know more about our politicians than they do their own.

For example, there is a stickied thread about the upcoming elections in Canada. It has 9 responses. On the other hand, the "The Dark Side of Hussein Obama - Vol. III" has 772 replies and over 12000 views.

Their major media outlets are government controlled (CBC), but IMO, rather unbiased. But this leads to group-think and commonality.

So, did I ever live in Canada and can now confidently speak of its inferiority?

Of course not. I dont know anything about their healthcare system beyond what my family says about it in passing. Theyre from Ontario and they are both heavy smokers and heavy, re-defining-alcoholics. They get their medications and treatments when needed, and thats all I know.

I know the way they deal with poor is entirely different from America's. In America, we build public housing (projects) all together in small communities. This festers crime and generational inep ude.

In Canada, thier version of public housing is building an apartment building or two right smack dab in the middle of a nice neighborhood. They do this all over the country (again, cant speak for Quebec.....there is a reason they want to secede).

They do a lot of things well in Canada, which is understandable when their population is less than California's, but spread out over the length of our northern border. They are much more similiar to Europe than America (right down to their system of government) which makes them more socialist than Americans could ever stand (on average).

But the point was, if the premise of an argument starts and ends with "I want to leave America because it sucks" and your big idea is to move to Canada, then you obviously dont know abut Canada.

/point

Just don't forget that Eastern and Western Canada is drastically different in the same way the various states' culture differs; I wouldn't make that drastic of an assumption. My girlfriend is Canadian and am aware of facets of the culture and other little things you can pick up about them.

Can't say all Americans are redneck religious rights either, but I do see your point and well, Canada is just more laid back than the US of A and many of the people are the same.

[velik_m]

You have to live 3 of the previous 4 years there as a permanent resident, pass a test on the history and the current state of Canada, and be able to speak one of English and French.

Thanks! You probably need an employment agreement to get a permanent residency though? Tourist visa probably doesn't cut it?

[=RTM=]

I saw a show on Tv where a man and a woman went to Canada no money no history no drivers license. They was greeted at the border and given some money to get a place to stay and some food as they looked for a job for them.

I almost fell off my sofa and ran to the Bus station and then I remembered the troops who die everyday so I can live in this hole we call America.