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    did I mention that McCain is a maverick, Katie?

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    Palin is a Maverick for refusing to answer questions!!

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    I have, and its not the condescending looks by Couric that were the problem 101. Unedited or not, I don't see how you can like the way the interview went
    It was a useless political interview; nothing more, nothing less. Palin stuck to talking points, and deflected questions? Really, a politician in the U.S. who didn't simply answer yes no, and was completey forthright in their responses? Say it isn't so!!!

    Somebody post the interview with a politician that WASN'T full of talking points.

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    It was a useless political interview; nothing more, nothing less. Palin stuck to talking points, and deflected questions? Really, a politician in the U.S. who didn't simply answer yes no, and was completey forthright in their responses? Say it isn't so!!!

    Somebody post the interview with a politician that WASN'T full of talking points.
    It's not a question of whether or not Palin used talking points, but how she used them. It's the difference between gracefully diving into the water and falling in and drowning. She doesn't look like much of a swimmer to me.

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    It's not a question of whether or not Palin used talking points, but how she used them. It's the difference between gracefully diving into the water and falling in and drowning. She doesn't look like much of a swimmer to me.
    "Slickness" and oratory skils are commonplace, and not exceptional. We have come to expect it in our political leaders (the current President notwithstanding), but they are overrated. She is obviously not polished, or as rehearsed as other candidates. But if you could take off your blue sunglasses, you would see that she is certainly more fluent than GW, and answered the questions is a reasonably substantive, if somewhat pedestrian way. She is certainly not as skilled as Obama, but few are. Biden's gaffe's, on the other hand, are at least as telling.

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    It was a useless political interview; nothing more, nothing less. Palin stuck to talking points, and deflected questions? Really, a politician in the U.S. who didn't simply answer yes no, and was completey forthright in their responses? Say it isn't so!!!

    Somebody post the interview with a politician that WASN'T full of talking points.

    are you choosing to ignore Palin's meltdown in that interview completely? Its not that she used talking points 101, its that she doesn't know what the those talking points mean and how to use them! Her answer to Courics question about the better use of the $700 billion bailout was completely non sensical. I mean, I'm not saying completely write her off because of one answer, but you have to admit this interview does not look well on her.

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    "Slickness" and oratory skils are commonplace, and not exceptional. We have come to expect it in our political leaders (the current President notwithstanding), but they are overrated. She is obviously not polished, or as rehearsed as other candidates. But if you could take off your blue sunglasses, you would see that she is certainly more fluent than GW, and answered the questions is a reasonably substantive, if somewhat pedestrian way. She is certainly not as skilled as Obama, but few are. Biden's gaffe's, on the other hand, are at least as telling.
    If you take off your red sunglasses you will see that she is often lost. And saying she is more fluent than GW--wow, that's really setting the bar high.

    I suspect Biden's gaffes are indicative of his love of hearing himself speak and a tendency to speak before really thinking about what he is actually saying, rather than the sort of cluelessness we see in Palin.

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    are you choosing to ignore Palin's meltdown in that interview completely? Its not that she used talking points 101, its that she doesn't know what the those talking points mean and how to use them! Her answer to Courics question about the better use of the $700 billion bailout was completely non sensical. I mean, I'm not saying completely write her off because of one answer, but you have to admit this interview does not look well on her.
    That's 30 seconds of an 11 minute interview, and a response to an absolutely ridiculous hypothetical question. Has ANY politician actually proposed giving the $700 billion back to average Americans? What is Couric talking about? Why did she ask the question in the first place. It's out of ing left field, and Palin didn't call her on it, as she should have. She should have shot back at Couric that it was a B.S. question, but she didn't. She talked about the bailout helping the healthcare and import/export portions of our economy. She's obviously been told to bring up healthcare and jobs when all else fails. Not a big deal. It's not like she contradicted her campaign's position on coal plants.

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    I suspect Biden's gaffes are indicative of his love of hearing himself speak and a tendency to speak before really thinking about what he is actually saying, rather than the sort of cluelessness we see in Palin.
    And I suspect you're seeing what you want to see.

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    Hmmm, let's see what the folks over at the National Review On-Line are saying. How about Palin lover, Kathleen Parker?

    Palin Problem
    She’s out of her league.

    By Kathleen Parker
    Oops, that's not a good start.

    As we’ve seen and heard more from John McCain’s running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn’t know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion.
    She goes on the call on Palin to gracefully drop out for the good of the ticket.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...MyYTUxZDkwNTE=

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    Hmmm, let's see what the folks over at the National Review On-Line are saying. How about Palin lover, Kathleen Parker?



    Oops, that's not a good start.



    She goes on the call on Palin to gracefully drop out for the good of the ticket.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...MyYTUxZDkwNTE=
    Yeah, but Paker is a left wing....er National Reveiw....errrr. pulling the rip chord on this thread.

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    That's 30 seconds of an 11 minute interview, and a response to an absolutely ridiculous hypothetical question. Has ANY politician actually proposed giving the $700 billion back to average Americans? What is Couric talking about? Why did she ask the question in the first place. It's out of ing left field, and Palin didn't call her on it, as she should have. She should have shot back at Couric that it was a B.S. question, but she didn't. She talked about the bailout helping the healthcare and import/export portions of our economy. She's obviously been told to bring up healthcare and jobs when all else fails. Not a big deal. It's not like she contradicted her campaign's position on coal plants.
    That's 30 seconds of 11 minutes that were, as you've pointed out as well, riddled with "talking points", a lot of which she didn't have the knowledge to back up.

    She claimed that American people right now are looking at McCain rather than Obama, to see what he's going to do about the economic collapse. To which Couric asked her why she made such a claim when polls say otherwise. Palin's answer changed to "at the end of the day" and "look at track records"...

    When asked about specific examples about McCain pushing for more regulations in the past, the best she could come up with was "He's known as the Maverick" and "I'll get back to you"...

    When asked to clarify her statement that because Alaska was close to Russia she has foreign policy experience, she was all over the place as well. Talkin about Putin rearing his head into American air space and that its Alaska the place from where they "send those out" to make sure an eye is being kept on Russia. If someone could explain to me that statement please, I didn't quite get it.

    Point is there are a lot of times when she's going to be asked questions that are out of left field and if she's going to react like she did in this interview... well, all I'm saying is she probably needs more coaching.

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    what if we actually took her advice word for word? what would that look like?

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    That's 30 seconds of 11 minutes that were, as you've pointed out as well, riddled with "talking points", a lot of which she didn't have the knowledge to back up.

    She claimed that American people right now are looking at McCain rather than Obama, to see what he's going to do about the economic collapse. To which Couric asked her why she made such a claim when polls say otherwise. Palin's answer changed to "at the end of the day" and "look at track records"...

    When asked about specific examples about McCain pushing for more regulations in the past, the best she could come up with was "He's known as the Maverick" and "I'll get back to you"...

    When asked to clarify her statement that because Alaska was close to Russia she has foreign policy experience, she was all over the place as well. Talkin about Putin rearing his head into American air space and that its Alaska the place from where they "send those out" to make sure an eye is being kept on Russia. If someone could explain to me that statement please, I didn't quite get it.

    Point is there are a lot of times when she's going to be asked questions that are out of left field and if she's going to react like she did in this interview... well, all I'm saying is she probably needs more coaching.
    errrr. pulling the rip chord on this thread.
    I already ceded. Palin is going to either have to prove her growing detractors wrong, or realize that by accepting McCain's invitation to join the ticket, she might have put in jeopardy a good thing she had going in Alaska.

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    what if we actually took her advice word for word? what would that look like?

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    lolz, peabody is on a roll today.

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    I already ceded. Palin is going to either have to prove her growing detractors wrong, or realize that by accepting McCain's invitation to join the ticket, she might have put in jeopardy a good thing she had going in Alaska.
    Personally, I don't think she's stupid and I don't think she's mean spirited as some people on this board would like to make her out to be. I think she's unprepared for the scrutiny inherent to modern politics, and she seems terrified about it.

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    then we have biden saying..

    In Castlewood, Virginia , at an annual fishfry, Joe Biden told the United Mine Workers that if Barack Obama tried to take Biden's guns away, then Obama's "got a problem."

    Neither Barack Obama nor Joe Biden have a gun control record that will soothe gun owners across America, with Biden himself receiving an F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record, not a gun advocacy record.

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    It's a myth that Obama is going to take away your guns, perpetrated by the Right Wing and believed by idiot gun owners.

    It's impressive that Republicons are still trying to defend Sarah Palin. She's so bad it just hurts.

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    It's also amazing that republicans are so obsessed about gun rights when there are clearly much bigger concerns that deserve our immediate attention.

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    It's also amazing that republicans are so obsessed about gun rights when there are clearly much bigger concerns that deserve our immediate attention.
    What could possibly be a bigger concern than them taking away our m60's?!?!?

    Between 9/15 and 9/24, WaMu experienced an outflow of deposits totaling close to $17 billion. Because agencies had downgraded WaMu so severely, they were incapable of producing additional capital. The OTS (Office of Thrift Supervision) shut down WaMu, and handed them over to the FDIC. WaMu had deposit obligations (customer's money) of over $188 billion. The FDIC had only $45 billion available to insure depositors. That means over $140 billion in customer cash would have just been gone...kaput...vanished into nowhere. That could have been as early as this morning...we were THAT close to a financial meltdown in this country.
    oh....

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    It's also amazing that republicans are so obsessed about gun rights when there are clearly much bigger concerns that deserve our immediate attention.
    well, you know what rednecks like to do every weekend:


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    It's also amazing that republicans are so obsessed about gun rights when there are clearly much bigger concerns that deserve our immediate attention.
    Well, we're going to need those guns for the revolution, so they're pretty important.

    BTW 2nd amendment rights are extremely important but I don't think anyone in this election is for taking away people's guns

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    BTW 2nd amendment rights are extremely important but I don't think anyone in this election is for taking away people's guns
    Exactly. It's pretty much a non-issue, especially when compared to the bigger problems we're facing.

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    I would discount the importance of our 2nd amendment, but when there is no threat to your 2nd amendment, its stupid to bring it up at a time like this.

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