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    McCain Wins Debate

    Although the fate of tonight's presidential debate in Mississippi remains very much up in the air, John McCain has apparently already won it -- if you believe an Internet ad an astute reader spotted next to this piece in the online edition of the Wall Street Journal this morning.

    "McCain Wins Debate!" declares the ad which features a headshot of a smiling McCain with an American flag background. Another ad spotted by our eagle-eyed observer featured a quote from McCain campaign manager Rick Davis declaring: "McCain won the debate-- hands down."



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    Whoops.

    Of course, with Internet ads you never know where they came from.

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    A little premature ejac huh?....

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    That must be the maverick way of managing the debate expectations.

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    Is this real? I mean come on, this is getting pathetic.

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    An artificial quote too! I missed it when I first opened this thread.

    Another ad spotted by our eagle-eyed observer featured a quote from McCain campaign manager Rick Davis declaring: "McCain won the debate-- hands down."

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    It looks like this is real...


    McCain Wins Debate!
    Washington Post, United States - 1 hour ago
    "McCain Wins Debate!" declares the ad which features a headshot of a smiling McCain with an American flag background. Another ad spotted by our eagle-eyed ...

    John McCain prematurely heralds debate win
    Dallas Morning News, TX - 35 minutes ago
    ... this morning ran an ad showing McCain in front of an American flag. "McCain Wins Debate!" the ad says. Comments limited to 30 words or less are preferred.

    McCain will debate but already declares victory
    Pittsburgh Post Gazette, PA - 29 minutes ago
    "McCain Wins Debate!" declares the ad, complete with a smiling candidate and American flag. A second ad quotes McCain campaign manager Rick Davis declaring: ...

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    It looks like this is real...


    Even if he get TOTALLY destroyed tonight I doubt they would post "McCain took it in the ass" on his website...

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    Now that's pathetic.

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    John McCain's campaign: Re-defining truthiness.

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    The other thing is to consider is that the McCain campaign said they weren't planning on attending the debates if a bailout agreement wasn't reached. How can that be true if they had started running ads saying McCain won the debates? Did he ever really consider not attending the debates or was it all grandstanding?

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    "My name is John McCain and I approved this ad. Even though I knew it wasn't true."

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    Is this real? I mean come on, this is getting pathetic.
    I'm sure it is real, and was meant to run after the debate.
    We recently had the gubernatorial debates here in IN, and minutes after the debates were finished, we received 3 statements in the newsroom..one from each candidate, claiming that they'd won the debate.

    It's not "pathetic." That's the way it works.

    I highly doubt McCain is to blame for it running early though.

    It was most likely a mix up in a master control somewhere...an isolated incident.

    I'm just saying that this sort of thing isn't uncommon in TV.
    The start airdate could've been wrong in that particular station.

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    I'm sure it is real, and was meant to run after the debate.
    We recently had the gubernatorial debates here in IN, and minutes after the debates were finished, we received 3 statements in the newsroom..one from each candidate, claiming that they'd won the debate.

    It's not "pathetic." That's the way it works.

    I highly doubt McCain is to blame for it running early though.

    It was most likely a mix up in a master control somewhere...an isolated incident.

    I'm just saying that this sort of thing isn't uncommon in TV.
    The start airdate could've been wrong in that particular station.
    That's about what I was thinking. I'd be willing to bet there are several places that already have Obama ads proclaiming debate victory sitting around waiting for a switch to be flipped, figuratively speaking.

    Someone made a mistake in programming the ad, which has nothing to do with McCain or his campaign. Same thing happens with ads for TV shows, etc, sometimes (ie sometimes the commercial for the next week is shown instead of the current, ruining any plot twists).

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    The other thing is to consider is that the McCain campaign said they weren't planning on attending the debates if a bailout agreement wasn't reached. How can that be true if they had started running ads saying McCain won the debates? Did he ever really consider not attending the debates or was it all grandstanding?
    Thats a very good question.

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    Did he win the election as well?

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    Thats a very good question.
    the only legitimate point of the thread.

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    How much do campaign managers get paid? Serious question.

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    How much do campaign managers get paid? Serious question.
    It was probably the mistake of some low-level staffer. They probably bought the slot starting today assuming it wouldn't run until after the debates and it just started running early.

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    Thats a very good question.
    Well, ...just ask the campaign:

    John McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign was made in the hopes that politics could be set aside to address our economic crisis.
    In response, Americans saw a familiar spectacle in Washington. At a moment of crisis that threatened the economic security of American families, Washington played the blame game rather than work together to find a solution that would avert a collapse of financial markets without squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ money to bailout bankers and brokers who bet their fortunes on unsafe lending practices.

    Both parties in both houses of Congress and the administration needed to come together to find a solution that would deserve the trust of the American people. And while there were attempts to do that, much of yesterday was spent fighting over who would get the credit for a deal and who would get the blame for failure. There was no deal or offer yesterday that had a majority of support in Congress. There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress — especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

    The difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was apparent during the White House meeting yesterday where Barack Obama’s priority was political posturing in his opening monologue defending the package as it stands. John McCain listened to all sides so he could help focus the debate on finding a bipartisan resolution that is in the interest of taxpayers and homeowners. The Democratic interests stood together in opposition to an agreement that would accommodate additional taxpayer protections.

    Senator McCain has spent the morning talking to members of the Administration, members of the Senate, and members of the House. He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans. The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the Senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners.
    Why speculate?

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    Well, ...just ask the campaign:


    Why speculate?
    When they say that the "Democratic interests stood together" that surely must include the Republican Senators that were also opposing the House Republican plan? Right? Because otherwise the statement is misleading.

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    Also, I call bull on the McCain campaign's assertion that he decided to attend the debates this morning after meeting with House Republicans.

    Per Politico

    McCain got in some prep last night

    John McCain did a few hours of high-level debate prep in his Arlington, Va., condo last night with podiums and mock questions, a top aide said today.

    After taping interviews for the evening newscasts, McCain returned home and practiced for his first faceoff with Barack Obama, a session that included aides tossing out potential questions and coaching his performance, Mark Salter said to the campaign pool reporter en route from Washington to Memphis. Apparently, the practice took place between phone calls, as McCain aides said last night he had been working the phones with congressional leaders and administration officials.

    Salter wouldn’t say who, if anyone, played the role of Obama.

    Asked about tonight’s goal, he said: “To do well, against a guy who’s a pretty good debater, show presidential leadership and be able to speak directly to the American people about what he believes.”

    McCain will return to Washington tonight after the debate.

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    Well, ...just ask the campaign:


    Why speculate?
    Yes because political campaigns never mislead the public.

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    This one actually hurts me:


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