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    you.

    I don't believe the goddamn government should be involved with Healthcare. I agree about educational reform, but I believe audits and checks should be done, throwing more money at it won't work. eliminating BS positions and spending money SMARTER would fix education alot better.


    Its none of your business how much I make, but I make enough to where Obama wants to raise them.


    Take your hypocritical Christian bull somewhere else.
    I'm not Christian, but most conservatives identify themselves as Christian but support a party that Jesus would vehemently oppose.

    The "goddamn" government needs to be involve with healthcare on some level, to suggest otherwise is idiotic and ludicrous (have you ever heard of Medicare?). The fact of the matter is we need the government to perform certain functions for us as a society or we end up with economic crises like we are facing today due to ZERO government oversight.

    eliminating BS positions and spending money SMARTER would fix education alot better.
    I agree, clearly our education system failed you.

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    Just fine one interview where they did it to Obama and I'll drop it.
    I'm not even arguing Obama isn't favored by the media. My perception has been that there's a pretty significant pro-Obama bias. That doesn't mean I think Palin's inep ude is a media fabrication.

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    That (well is guess this is) was my last Palin post in this thread. She's really ing stupid and if you can't see it and have to resort to claiming media bias or a conspiracy for this then you're either being intellectually dishonest or maybe Palin is smarter than you and you're not aware what intellectual dishonesty is but you know that when Putin rears his ugly head its time to blame Curic and the Obamessiah.

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    It's a double edged sword with Palin.

    The media scrutinizes her every word BECAUSE she has refused to make herself available.

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    I'm not Christian, but most conservatives identify themselves as Christian but support a party that Jesus would vehemently oppose.
    Okay, where will I find that in scripture?

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    I'm not Christian, but most conservatives identify themselves as Christian but support a party that Jesus would vehemently oppose.

    The "goddamn" government needs to be involve with healthcare on some level, to suggest otherwise is idiotic and ludicrous (have you ever heard of Medicare?). The fact of the matter is we need the government to perform certain functions for us as a society or we end up with economic crises like we are facing today due to ZERO government oversight.



    I agree, clearly our education system failed you.

    I'm sick and tired of people like you doing this bull with religon. Cut it the out.



    Yeah I've heard of Medicare and its a pathetic wastefull government porkbarrel quagmire. If Government was efficient and well versed in what they did I would be for it. BUT government is a wastefull freaking joke. Red tape, wasted time, beuracracy all that BS. NO, My health and my doctor's visits should not be run through the goddamn government. NO NO NO.


    Keep the personal BS to yourself. Your the one that started the insult horse .

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    Okay, where will I find that in scripture?
    Book of Go Yourself: 3:16

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    I'm not even arguing Obama isn't favored by the media. My perception has been that there's a pretty significant pro-Obama bias. That doesn't mean I think Palin's inep ude is a media fabrication.
    I can agree with that to a point.

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    Book of Go Yourself: 3:16
    Thats adult.

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    You're right its not even comparable. Biden hasn't ducked the media out of fear. Biden appeared on every network tonight and wasn't at a ing bar. Biden may make a ton of gaffes, but Miss South Carolina and he don't share teh same answers unlike Palin.

    You're god damn right its not compareable.

    Biden is a complete and total idiot. A legitimate one...no editing necessary. In fact editing can't save him.

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    Book of Go Yourself: 3:16
    Yeah, thought so.

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    I'm sick and tired of people like you doing this bull with religon. Cut it the out.



    Yeah I've heard of Medicare and its a pathetic wastefull government porkbarrel quagmire. If Government was efficient and well versed in what they did I would be for it. BUT government is a wastefull freaking joke. Red tape, wasted time, beuracracy all that BS. NO, My health and my doctor's visits should not be run through the goddamn government. NO NO NO.


    Keep the personal BS to yourself. Your the one that started the insult horse .
    We all know the government is inefficient, but free markets left to their own devices have just as much potential for failure. Have you followed the economy at all in the last month? you are dumb.

    It's a balance that is needed. We need someone watching over corporate America that will keep them in check just as much as we need the government staying out of our lives.

    You don't make over $250,000. There is no way someone as stupid as yourself makes anywhere near that money. Lying keyboard jockey.

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    Book of Go Yourself: 3:16
    That must be a part of the Apocrypha.

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    The incessant defense of Sarah Palin is absolutely unfathomable. You're asking us to accept her because she's not part of the Washington political en y? FINE. But let us SEE her first. , I've seen the Tina Fey skit more often and for longer durations than I have seen Sarah Palin since she was nominated.

    Are you really going to tell me to accept a person who I've never heard of a month ago as viable for the 2nd (or one of the) most powerful position(s) in the world? It's absolutely ridiculous. The election is right around the corner and I have only seen Sarah Palin in one major spot (the RNC) and one solitary interview she did on TV.

    People go through more rigorous checks on their stances on policies when they apply to work at Wendy's. And no, that's not hyperbole, sadly, though I wish it were.

    STOP defending Sarah Palin. We aren't all out to rip her down. We're just ing SCARED that someone we barely know might be our VP soon. I WANT TO KNOW WHO THIS WOMAN IS. If your daughter (or son) came home with the guy you met before they went on their first date last week and announced that she was marrying him, but that you couldn't see him until the wedding, wouldn't that piss you off just a little bit, too?
    There's a saying in Wall Street: "Trust the Actions of the Insiders"

    The fact that McCain's camp is hiding the living out of Palin, restricting her access to the media, trying to minimize interaction in the VP debates, and keeping her the away from interviews tells you all you need to know.

    And it's not a good sign.

    Palin is an utter joke. PRAY that McCain does not die if elected.

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    We all know the government is inefficient, but free markets left to their own devices have just as much potential for failure. Have you followed the economy at all in the last month? you are dumb.

    It's a balance that is needed. We need someone watching over corporate America that will keep them in check just as much as we need the government staying out of our lives.

    You don't make over $250,000. There is no way someone as stupid as yourself makes anywhere near that money. Lying keyboard jockey.


    I'm done discussing with you.

    All your doing is insulting me with names and tripe.


    Goodbye.

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    That must be a part of the Apocrypha.


    The bottom line is Jesus was a champion of the outcasts and the poor. Conservatives don't hold this section of our society in high regard at all.

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    I'm done discussing with you.

    All your doing is insulting me with names and tripe.


    Goodbye.
    Stop eating you fat .

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    Thats adult.

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    I actually thought McCain scored better on Iraq than he should have given how Obama is on the popular side of the argument of whether we should have gone in the first place. When McCain called him out for being surprised about the success of the surge, Obama failed to address the point, instead going back to how the decision to invade was a bad one.

    The thing is, the next President isn't going to be charged with deciding whether or not the War in Iraq was a good idea. He's going to have to find a way to finish the job.

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    What is wrong those answers that requires asking the question a third time?

    That's the best answer she had...and it's more than Obama has done....unless you count being paid by them.

    Why keep asking the question?
    So let me get your position straight.

    There is a huge media bias against Sarah Palin. This contributes to your rationale for why she hasn't made many (any) recent appearances before national TV.

    Do you think this will change if she becomes VP? Because I really need to know if the potential Vice President of my country is going to dive out of sight for a few weeks every time that she perceives she's being slighted. What kind of image does that present as the 2nd most powerful person in this country?

    Don't we, as the voters and as human beings, have certain unalienable Rights? Would you not say that contained in these Rights is a right to know who we are governed by? Because there could very well be a President Sarah Palin when all the smoke clears. I am beginning to lose my anger at the republican party for this situation. The anger I had is now slowly (but increasingly) being replaced by abject fear. I actually feel wronged in this situation, that I might have to accept a person I know very little about into an extremely high office.

    I feel that we as the voters have a right to utilize the media for THIS VERY PURPOSE. That is to say that this is one of the innate reasons that such media exists. Biased or not, fallible, buzz-seeking, Apple-iPod generation... it doesn't matter. It's all we have! It's all we have right now, and I would like to think that at least a few people out in the American public would be smart enough to see through the slander if they are attempting to discredit Ms. Palin.

    To think that if the coverage is so biased now will be lessened if she attains the office of VP is somewhat bizarre. She will likely be scrutinized more tightly than ever before, BECAUSE she isn't part of the Washington circle and BECAUSE she's attractive and BECAUSE yes, because she is a woman.

    She's a woman and she likes McCain's policies a lot. That's about the extent of my Sarah Palin knowledge right now. And I think that is extremely unfair. Call me an Obama hack if you must, but please point to a place in this entire post where I have unjustly attacked Ms. Palin.

    I am not a democrat or a republican. I am merely a (deeply) concerned citizen.

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    I lied, one more Palin post.


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    This ing thread is turning into crap, which is a shame, because it was incredibly resreshing to have a debate with two intelligent candidates for once. , it would have been refreshing with one intelligent candidate after the last two elections.

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    You don't make over $250,000. There is no way someone as stupid as yourself makes anywhere near that money. Lying keyboard jockey.
    He does.

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    Biden is a complete and total idiot. A legitimate one...no editing necessary. In fact editing can't save him.
    And yet, there he is, closing in on 100 interviews since the convention while Palin has done....

    3?

    And her favorable rating isn't all that higher than Biden's while her unfavorable rating is.


    Stop protecting her!

    She's tough!

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    I'm not even arguing Obama isn't favored by the media. My perception has been that there's a pretty significant pro-Obama bias. That doesn't mean I think Palin's inep ude is a media fabrication.

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