1st Presidential Debate Blog

[sook]

The bottom line is Jesus was a champion of the outcasts and the poor. Conservatives don't hold this section of our society in high regard at all.

me and madhatter have significant;y opposing views when it comes to b-ball.

But hes hit the nail on the head and is completely in line what the way i feel.

But could you do so w.o insulting the other person

[T Park]

This ing thread is turning into crap, which is a shame, because it was incredibly resreshing to have a debate with two intelligent candidates for once.

I apologize for being apart of it.

I agree, from what I'm watching, I'm falling into the category of, if either wins, eh I guess I'll be ok.

I just prefer McCain cause I'll save money in taxes

[TheMadHatter]

I'm pretty drunk and ing around with tpark and the rest of the conservatives. I enjoy watching their responses, it's fascinating analyzing how they think.

[Mr. Peabody]

Enjoy...no interviewer necessary.

Is it a youtube or are you trying to embed a different kind of video?

[MannyIsGod]

I'm pretty drunk and ing around with tpark and the rest of the conservatives. I enjoy watching their responses, it's fascinating analyzing how they think.

You can't really blame them. You'd be scared too if you lived in Alaska where Putin rears his ugly head and goes.

[T Park]

I'm a conservative and I don't one bit "not hold" the poor and outcasts of our society in high regard. My business goes to shelters and hires the homeless, the most downtrodden of homeless with now where to go and trys to get them on their feet, give them money,a job, a uniform, free room and board.

Small business owners like myself are 100% champions of the poor and outcasts and try to hire them ourselves.

I'm not a champion of a party that wants to raise my taxes and regulate and punish me into next week.

[MannyIsGod]

Man that ing Putin picture is still cracking me up.

[ChumpDumper]

You can't really blame them. You'd be scared too if you lived in Alaska where Putin rears his ugly head and goes.

I seriously thought she was high when she said that.

[Cry Havoc]

From digg.com:

"Obama should have opened the debate with, 'Glad you could make it.'"

[Spurminator]

Enjoy...no interviewer necessary.

OMG they cut the whole interview! You can't see anything!

[T Park]

From digg.com:

"Obama should have opened the debate with, 'Glad you could make it.'"

I would've laughed at that

[ChumpDumper]

OMG they cut the whole interview! You can't see anything!

He's right!

Conspiracy!!!!1111!!!!!!11!11!!!!

[T Park]

Anyone know when the next debate will be held? I will try and make an effort to watch that one. Didn't get to watch this one tonight live.

[bobbyjoe]

I actually thought McCain scored better on Iraq than he should have given how Obama is on the popular side of the argument of whether we should have gone in the first place. When McCain called him out for being surprised about the success of the surge, Obama failed to address the point, instead going back to how the decision to invade was a bad one.

The thing is, the next President isn't going to be charged with deciding whether or not the War in Iraq was a good idea. He's going to have to find a way to finish the job.

I think most rational, unbiased people realize that the larger issue is that if the ill-fated War was avoided in the first place, the surge would have been a moot point.

Obama drove that home pretty well.

Does a surge make up for the fact that the War with Iraq strengthened Iran by weakening Iraq, strengthened Al Qaeda by preventing the US from devoting adequate resources to Afghanistan (the true epicenter of terrorism along with Pakistan), $1 Trillion dollars, and 4,500 American lives and 30 K Americans injured?

I think a vast majority of Americans would answer an affirmative "NO" to that question.

McCain has a habit of focusing on smaller issues ($18 B of earmark spending when our budget DEFICIT this year was freaking $500B; a temporarily successful surge in Iraq in an ill-fated, ill-conceived, very poor return on investment War) and missing the larger picture.

It's pretty disturbing to keep him talking on and on about earmarks when they represent such a microscopic percentage of the federal budget. Obama called him out on this but should have expanded further on it to really expose McCain's short-sightedness on this issue.

[Purple & Gold]

These results on these polls tell me one of two things:

1) People are pissed at McCain for trying to chicken out of the debate and swung to Obama before the debate even began, and were seeing it through blue tinted glasses

- or -

2) The war in Iraq is even more unpopular than advertised, and people are supporting Barack for the way he killed McCain on the war in that one statement shown in the video above.

I honestly thought McCain did very well on the debate, but the American people disagree.

I'd go with #2. People are pissed about Iraq. He can't get away from it fast enough. His only defense is the surge and then Obama just points to why there wasn't a surge in Afghanistan.

I thought McCain did a good job. He could have easily been buried tonight because of the economy, but wasn't. That in itself is a win for him. I thought Obama did well and showed his knowledge on foreign affairs. Other than Iraq and talking with leaders of hostile countries without preconditions, their positions are very similar. I was also impressed with what McCain said about never doing torture again. But I don't think he did enough to paint himself as a maverick. He's tied to closely to Bush with Iraq and his 90% voting record.

[Anti.Hero]

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[Spurminator]

I think most rational, unbiased people realize that the larger issue is that if the ill-fated War was avoided in the first place, the surge would have been a moot point.

Obama drove that home pretty well.

Yes but it was not avoided and thus is not a moot point. The next President is going to inherit this ill-fated war and he's not going to get us out by saying he didn't vote for it in the first place.

But I do agree that most people who are voting based on Iraq will vote based on the overall war and not the success of the surge.

[Mr. Peabody]

OMG they cut the whole interview! You can't see anything!

It was probably an interview where Palin solved the crisis in the economy, formulated a new strategy (or tactic [?]) for the Iraq War, and proposed a new source of alternative energy.

Damn you liberal media!

[ChumpDumper]

Yes but it was not avoided and thus is not a moot point. The next President is going to inherit this ill-fated war and he's not going to get us out by saying he didn't vote for it in the first place.

I thought it tied into future decisions regarding places like Iran, etc. If McCain was wrong in Iraq....that kind of thing.

[T Park]

Yes but it was not avoided and thus is not a moot point. The next President is going to inherit this ill-fated war and he's not going to get us out by saying he didn't vote for it in the first place.

Agreed.

They have to say how they finish it, how to wrap it up, and whats next.

[Spurminator]

I thought it tied into future decisions regarding places like Iran, etc. If McCain was wrong in Iraq....that kind of thing.

I agree, but Obama brought up his opposition to the war as a rebuttal to McCain referencing his opposition to the surge. To me, it wasn't a relevant response at that time (although I'm not sure what would have been.)

Of course it's absolutely fair (and essential) for Obama to point out McCain's support of the invasion and his own opposition.

[MannyIsGod]

Yes but it was not avoided and thus is not a moot point. The next President is going to inherit this ill-fated war and he's not going to get us out by saying he didn't vote for it in the first place.

But I do agree that most people who are voting based on Iraq will vote based on the overall war and not the success of the surge.

I have issues with saying the Surge is the reason that Iraq is better today. Not only that but we'd been hearing they needed more troops for the longes ttime before the Surge.

I dunno, there's something to be said for owning up to what you support and McCain has to do that with the war. If the American people can get over that because they feel he's attoned for it then thats fine. But he's not doing much attoning, imo.

[Purple & Gold]

I'm sick and tired of people like you doing this bull with religon. Cut it the out.



Yeah I've heard of Medicare and its a pathetic wastefull government porkbarrel quagmire. If Government was efficient and well versed in what they did I would be for it. BUT government is a wastefull freaking joke. Red tape, wasted time, beuracracy all that BS. NO, My health and my doctor's visits should not be run through the goddamn government. NO NO NO.


Keep the personal BS to yourself. Your the one that started the insult horse .

Seriously your an idiot and a waste. You only care about your doctor's visits and your health. everybody else. Pathetic.

[ChumpDumper]

I agree, but Obama brought up his opposition to the war as a rebuttal to McCain referencing his opposition to the surge. To me, it wasn't a relevant response (although I'm not sure what would have been.)

Probably none. Obama missed an opportunity to say the Iraqis actually wanted a timeline for withdrawal, though. He could have also brought up McCain's 100-year quip and asked him if there were any actual benchmarks that would trigger withdrawal.

[Purple & Gold]

I'm a conservative and I don't one bit "not hold" the poor and outcasts of our society in high regard. My business goes to shelters and hires the homeless, the most downtrodden of homeless with now where to go and trys to get them on their feet, give them money,a job, a uniform, free room and board.

Small business owners like myself are 100% champions of the poor and outcasts and try to hire them ourselves.

I'm not a champion of a party that wants to raise my taxes and regulate and punish me into next week.

I call bull cause you want them to fend for their own dr's visits.