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    Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.

    Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.

    They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.

    They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest -- until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the violences of war.

    For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.

    Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.

    And for us at home -- fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them -- help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.

    Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.

    Give us strength, too -- strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.

    And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.

    And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment -- let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.

    With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace -- a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.

    Thy will be done, Almighty God.

    Amen.



    Answer: Franklin D. Roosevelt - June 6, 1944

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    So?

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    Is this a holy war?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    what's the point?

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    we observe today not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom—symbolizing an end, as well as a beginning—signifying renewal, as well as change. For I have sworn before you and Almighty God the same solemn oath our forebears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago. 1
    The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

    Gasp!


    John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

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    Do you consider this a holy war?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Gasp!


    John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961
    what's the point?

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    Can you imagine how the MSM would react to those statements in this day and age?

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    God damn the media, God damn the MEDDIAAAA.

    Their chickeeennsssssssssss have come homeeeee. TO ROOOOST.

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    Do you consider our current conflict a holy war, DarrinS?

    Anti.Hero?

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    Do you consider our current conflict a holy war, DarrinS?

    Anti.Hero?

    To a certain extent.

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    Of course. I'm a traditionalist though and do not believe in holy wars without riding in on horseback.



    Heat-seeking bunker busters are sooooooo NEW NEW testament.

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    To a certain extent.
    To what extent?

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    Well, Buddhists haven't been committing terrorists acts against the US and US interests.

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    I think at least one of the parties to this conflict believes it's a religious war. So, in that respect...I guess it is.

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    Well, Buddhists haven't been committing terrorists acts against the US and US interests.
    That doesn't explain anything.

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    I think at least one of the parties to this conflict believes it's a religious war. So, in that respect...I guess it is.
    Thinking other people think it's a holy war means nothing. What do you think it is?

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    Can you imagine how the MSM would react to those statements in this day and age?
    It would be an interesting reaction. But then again your premise of "in this day and age" is also the weakness of your argument. It's this day and age. It's not 64 or 47 years ago. The year is 2008.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I'm glad we, the USA, have a monopoly on doing God's will.

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    I think at least one of the parties to this conflict believes it's a religious war. So, in that respect...I guess it is.
    That sort of logic leads to supporting torture.

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    Well, Buddhists haven't been committing terrorists acts against the US and US interests.


    Well said, way to address the question directly.

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    Thinking other people think it's a holy war means nothing. What do you think it is?

    Well, Islamic jihadists think THEY are in a holy war, don't they?

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    Well, Islamic jihadists think THEY are in a holy war, don't they?
    What kind if war do you think we are in?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Well, Islamic jihadists think THEY are in a holy war, don't they?
    Well some conservative folks think THEY are in a holy war, don't they?

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    What kind if war do you think we are in?

    To the extent we are fighting people that consider themselves "holy warriors", we are in a holy war. I can't state it any more plainly than that.

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