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  1. #76
    Can handle TheTruth Ginofan's Avatar
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    This is absolutely true. No doubt there are plenty of scammers out there; but the majority of these people require ins utionalization. They may be alcoholics or drug addicts because of mental illness or vice versa, either way they were turned out onto the streets by the lack of mental health resources. Yes they choose to be homeless, much in the same way my senile mother in law chose to wear her underwear over her clothes instead of underneath. I'm not making excuses for them, it's just the way it is.
    There are several places that offer mental health resources and rehab for little or no charge at all. The Center for Healthcare Services is a state funded clinic that offers drug rehab for as little as $2/day that comes with counseling and psychiatric visits.

    I don't think it's the lack of resources, I think that the problem is these people don't want to better themselves. They would rather the general public or the government take care of them instead of taking care of themselves.

    I work in a methadone clinic where it costs $55/week for treatment, including counseling and psychiatric care. We have about 10 to 15 "homeless" people in our population of 400. We do urine tests on these patients once a month (required by state law) and I would say at least two thirds of the population still abuses drugs. They don't want to get better otherwise they wouldn't waste their money on drugs AND rehab.

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    Think twice, people. Think about it.

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  4. #79
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    the homeless in austin are like the homeless from southpark...."change? change?"

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    the homeless in austin are like the homeless from southpark...."change? change?"
    I remember I was passing out fliers one time for some event I was helping promote and I was runing up and down the street passing them out and this bum wanted to fight me saying it was his corner. I told him I wasn't taking money from people just handing out promotional stuff and he was getting all pissed. I started laughing and he was getting even more pissed then the guy selling flowers came by and they started fighting. I left and vowed never to pass out fliers like that again. It was very entertaining though.

  6. #81
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    I only give them money if they are honest.
    And how does one determine if someone is honest? Do you drive around with a polygraph machine? But, that's only momentary honesty, so are they really honest? Explain if you could.

    I generously give them counterfeit money. That way they get their own room and food eventually.
    Coooooollld Blooooded

    I was homeless for about a month. I slept in a dumpster and got crushed by a garbage truck one night sleeping in a dumpster behind the Auto zone on culebra rd.

    I found a place called Goodnight's on Colorado street it was 5.00 dollars a night and they would have part time jobs if you wanted one. I went to one and i served food for some rich rancher guy off I-10, then I went on another job moving office supplies and office furniture at night. These Jobs pay 8-10 dollars an hour but we only see 4.50 an hour. (back in 1989-1990) era.

    I started to pay my weekly stay at the bunkhouse so i got weekends free. I bought me some black pants ,white shirt and a bow tie and got a job as a bus boy on the river walk. I even worked for Smith Security.

    I also bought a paint brush and showed up at Blanco and 1604 and got a job painting houses for 8.50 an hour. Got an apartment and the folks at Good Will got me a job at Ft.Sam painting, and i made 275.00 a week after taxes.

    I rented a house, bought a PC and started posting on the www and the rest was history. If my lazy ass can do it anyone can. You notice you never see any Asian homeless? Those rice eating bas s come to America with 25 cents in their pockets they work 3 or more jobs.

    So as far as homeless people go? First 30 days, you get my help. After that?

    " you" and get a job!!
    True story, I hardly see homeless Asians. But, you also have to take into account that they come from a collectivist society in general. They tend to work together. Whereas in America, things are more Individualistic. But, people who can, should work. Programs are available, etc.

    But I don't blame them, if you hit the lotto would you keep the money? Well they hit a little bit everyday.

    sons I usually tell them that they can come cut my grass for $30 .... just offer them to actually have to work for the money. that usually scares them off and they will leave you alone.
    That's what I call a exceptional long term plan


    Get it together Grouch, get a job grouch.

  7. #82
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    I was homeless for about a month. I slept in a dumpster and got crushed by I went to one and i served food for some rich rancher guy off I-10
    Was it for Cosmic Cowboy????

  8. #83
    I Am Jack's Smirking Revenge atxrocker's Avatar
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    f-u-c-k NO. tell them mother ers to get a goddamn job like everybody else. you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. em. i have no problem laughing as i drive by. in fact my passion is so deep that i even hate when people i'm driving with give money to those mother ers.

  9. #84
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    Was it for Cosmic Cowboy????
    I was thinking the same thing when i posted it. The ranch is right before you get to Rudy's Bar B Q on I-10 to the right. The man is sorta famous and is always having fund raisers. I worked as a temp for a server/catering company. They had huge bar B Q pits some with quail meat and they had half a steer on a rotation type Bar B Q.

    I used to feel sorry for homeless people but you all are making a terrible mistake. There is a difference in a homeless person who just lost his job and needs a place to stay for a month from a booze drinking bum!

    The booze drinking lazy ass American homeless bum does not care if you give
    him 50 thousand dollars they are just going to buy more booze and drugs. A real homeless person will buy a home. There is a difference in BUMS and real Homeless.

    Go offer a homeless bum under the bridge a job and see how they look at you.

    My Ex boss was from Vietnam he was literally hanging off the chopper skid when the Americans pulled out of Saigon he came to America with 75 cents to his name. he got a job as a dish washer and 7 years later he bought the restaurant. Then he went into home buying and rebuilding business and that's where i met him he was contracted through Guy Chip man.

    He told me many stories about Vietnam and how people there look at the trash dump like a buffet dinner.

    If a homeless person can stand all day under a bridge asking for money then they can put on a security uniform and earn a paycheck I don't feel sorry for none of those assholes unless its a woman and her two kids who just lost thier home or she was abused and even then there are programs to help you.

    If you don't believe me look at the kids in NY and LA they are only 18 22 years of age begging for money, WTF is your excuse if your young not to get a job or go to school that's is why they have food stamps and collage grants.


    They rather drink and smoke weed all day. Someone find me a homeless Canadian,Russian,Asian,Italian,or even a Mexican homeless. Those people come here with only a gallon of water and maybe a pound of weed to their name and yet they don't sit under a bridge all day begging for cash.

    The homeless people in America are homeless by choice.

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    Seeking the quiet mind desflood's Avatar
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    He who does not work, neither shall he eat.

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    I don't make eye contact with people asking for money or holding signs. It pisses me off when I go to the grocery store and these girl scouts or little leaguers are asking for my cash. I say "no" on the way in and "no" on the way out.

    I also hate it when my co-workers ask for money for there kids. I worked at a office for 8 years. I had no kids and I swear everyone else had them. About 30-35 people would ask for money year round. YEAR ROUND. After the 1st year I told people they should stop asking. Do it by e-mail atleast. I feel bad saying no to a fellow employee but I am not going to buy a bunch of I don't want.

    I say NO to the so called homeless.

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    I live in Vegas there are perhaps more homeless here than anywhere I've ever lived. Occasionally i will give them a buck or two. Sometimes ill give it to someone without them even prompting me. I'll never forget this one bum by the stratosphere had a sign reading "I ain't gonna lie i need a beer" and i laughed and gave him a $5 spot.

    I once gave a dude $5 and he ed at me and was like come on bro can you do any more. I snatched the $5spot back and told him to off.

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    IMHO, giving to the homeless is one's own decision and to say that those that do give are making a mistake is ridiculous.

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    the homeless in austin are like the homeless from southpark...."change? change?"
    LMAO!!!

    Just the other night some guy on a bike was trying to get money off of me I guess. I was kind of drunk and ignored him and this girl we were with put her arm around me and turned me away from him. Guy said "oh im sorry I guess im too black for you to talk to me" hahaha I was like wtf are you serious!! So according to that guy not only dont I like beggars, but black beggars at that. For some one who is begging for money, an at ude doesnt help your cause at all.

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    IMHO, giving to the homeless is one's own decision and to say that those that do give are making a mistake is ridiculous.
    nobody is saying not to give money to the homeless in general...

    but when you give to someone on the street corner as you are pulling up to the stop light, then it encourages them to come the next day and it encourages others to come to that same stop light and the next thing you know, we have a bunch of bums at intersections asking for money instead of getting help through the proper channels.

    and just FYI, it is illegal to peddle for money at street corners. The only reason the Express News gets away with it is because it falls under some freedom of speech/media rights.

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    nobody is saying not to give money to the homeless in general...

    but when you give to someone on the street corner as you are pulling up to the stop light, then it encourages them to come the next day and it encourages others to come to that same stop light and the next thing you know, we have a bunch of bums at intersections asking for money instead of getting help through the proper channels.

    and just FYI, it is illegal to peddle for money at street corners. The only reason the Express News gets away with it is because it falls under some freedom of speech/media rights.
    IMHO, you must not have read all the posts in this thread.

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    IMHO, you must not have read all the posts in this thread.
    yes I did, but either way, what does that have to do with what you said? which post(s) exactly are you referring to?

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    IMHO, giving to the homeless is one's own decision and to say that those that do give are making a mistake is ridiculous.
    I am sure some homeless man with a Vietnam veteran jacket on with fake medals that you just gave 5.00 dollars to is smiling at you as he drinks his 6 pack of Bush beer.

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    Give....and you shall receive.

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    Give....and you shall receive a nice Bible book mark with my picture on it.
    sincerely,

    Robert Tilton

  21. #96
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    Give....and you shall receive.
    WTF has the homeless gave us?

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    you're most likely right, but that's like saying you have less of a chance at losing money in the Coke machine than the Pepsi machine.

    They are both a waste of money in my book.

    I was at Las Palapas (281/1604) and noticed a ford ranger pull up in the vacant lot that used to be Jack in the box. A vagrantly dressed woman jumped out and started doing her thing on the corner while the two guys she pulled up with stayed in the truck and watched her work.

    My thinking is that they rotate corners throughout the area and at the first sign of cops (because panhandling on the side of the road is illegal after all) they jump in and take off.

    There are just too many better ways to donate your money than to blow it on yahoos that stand on the corner with their signs.

    I did see a good sign once over at 410/Ingram that said "I just got a divorce and my wife took my money, my house and my car and left me with nothing but this sign"
    If you give money to a panhandler, you are likely either giving it to a person who needs it or a crafty entrepreneur. Perhaps I'm a sucker for entrepreneurship but I'd rather see one of them make a buck than a slimeball executive of a supposed NPO.

  23. #98
    Dreaming of you-Selena ALWAYS bet on BLACK's Avatar
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    WTF has the homeless gave us?
    TPARK you think you are better than all the other people dont you?

    why are you so smug and y? just because you have lots of cash does not give you the right to talk down and think down on the rest of the people who are not as wealthy as you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    He's a richer?

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    I do it whem I'm in Mexico, but people here can earn they're own buck.
    The pan-handlers in Mexico are fakes too. One time in Tijuana I saw three kids who were pan-handling give all their money to some dude who pulled up in a Benz. The ing kids have pimps too.

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