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i feel the same way bro, neocons like whott really have me thinking about how defensive some people can be, for them its party first, country second.
If we they literally had on a stick running for them they would still be singing
Now it's the Eastern Elite "gotcha" media's fault for trying to trick Palin with tough questions. Such tough questions as:
To which she responded:What's your opinion of this potential 700 billion dollar bailout?
I'm convinced Republicans would defend a pair of tennis shoes to their death if it were nominated for President by the RNC.Like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this. We're saying, 'Hey, why bail out Fanny and Freddie and not me?' But ultimately what the bailout does is, help those that are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy to help...uh...it's gotta be all about job creation, too. Also, too, shoring up our economy and putting Fannie and Freddy back on the right track and so healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. But one in five jobs being created today under the umbrella of job creation.
i feel the same way bro, neocons like whott really have me thinking about how defensive some people can be, for them its party first, country second.
If we they literally had on a stick running for them they would still be singing
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We would prefer on a stick.
Hey Bob, did you hear ol' on a stick wants to raise taxes and nationalize health care?
Jimmy, it's on a stick...it can't do that.
I didn't see that, wish I did. I can only make an educated guess as to what happened. Here it goes:
Palin did say that the people were concerned about it. She tried a style not of her own. She was coached how to do things, and failed to do a good job at tactics she was unfirmiliar with, which is change the subject and place in a point you want to.
I think she tried to use things coached to her. She has always been better of just being herself. It was a bad move on her part to try to play a part.
Like when?
She wasn't selected to be herself. She was selected to dupe a thoroughly underwhelmed conservative base into getting excited again about voting Republican in November.
I'm almost at the point of believing that she was never expected to even serve the full first term... that scandal or some form of coercion would force her out of office soon after a Republican victory, because there is no way in the people pulling the strings would really want her in the 2nd most powerful office in the country. On the other hand, neocons have proven that they can get a buffoon elected AND REELECTED to promote their agenda, so maybe they're testing the limits of the general public's idiocy with Palin.
I'm beginning to see the appeal of being a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
Even now Republicans are trying to rationalize the irrational.
Just say it. Palin has no business running for vice president of the United States. I know deep down you feel it's true, otherwise you wouldn't fight so hard to defend her.
As much defending of Palin people on the right are doing, they've got a long way to go to catch up to the Obama "Truth Squad".
The difference is Obama is wise beyond his years.
President of Harvard Law Review (the 1st African American president)
Cons utional Law Professor (1992-2004)
United States Senator (2004-Present)
There is no question this man knows our Cons ution and knows how our government works. He knows the global world we live in and the threat of terrorism through his work on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Obama will be ready to go on Day 1, and any shortcomings he may have in foreign affairs will be picked up by his Vice President Joe Biden who has an even more impressive record than McCain in this regard. Obama picked his VP to shore up his own shortcomings for the betterment of this nation, McCain picked his to win an election.
I'm sick and tired of Republicans using this executive experience nonsense argument. Sarah Palin is not wise, she's not well read, she has little understanding of how the world works in comparison to any of the other candidates running. Quite frankly she has no business running for the office she seeks. We've had 8 years of an "average joe" president and it's led to disastrous results. Let's not make the same mistake again.
When the National Review is calling for you to step down, you know you are not qualified
That's not fair. It takes a lot to get a degree in....journalism. Jesus tap dancing christ. It took her how many different schools to get a degree in journalism?
Who gives a ?
Did he go to five different colleges before successfully getting a degree in... journalism? I bet not. Next.
Most of the rational, intelligent Republicans I've spoken to don't even try to defend Palin and basically believe the Mccain campaign dug their own grave. Anyone with a brain can realize she is nothing more than a gimmick.
Extremely excited for Palin's Thursday meltdown. It's going to be hilarious watching Biden toy with her.
You guys are all so easily fooled. This was tina fey on saturday night live making fun of sara palin
Correct. This is the real response:
That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a compe ive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.
Where did Obama teach Con Law?
What are the academic requirements to be president of the Harvard Law Review?
Interesting Read on Obama's Education
The lack of a published GPA for the man from ANY ins ution he attended really raises some questions; especially since his education is touted as one of his significant achievements.
If that education isn't as significant as it appears at its face, what has he ACTUALLY achieved.
Seriously.
What has Barrack Obama EVER done that leads you to believe he is ready for this job at this time?
And don't turn this around on Palin; I'm on record here questioning Palin. Are there any intellectually honest, or even curious, Barrack supporters on here?
University of Chicago Law School
What leads you to believe that he isn't ready for the job at this time?
Anyways, considering Obama's upbringing, do you think it's easy to become the first ever black president of Harvard Law Review or a States senator?
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Palin obsession thread #431
Easy? Certainly Not.
What leads me to believe that he isn't ready is specifically the lack of any evidence he is ready. He has threatened to sue his schools if they release any of his records. Why? Why is he the only Law Review President in HISTORY that didn't clerk for an appellate judge? That is a tough gig; have a good friend who is on the 5th circuit; I've talked to his clerks; they are very, very sharp people. They get an incredible on-the-job education in his office. Did Obama simply not want this experience, or was he not offered a position?
I suspect it was both. Obama ALWAYS wanted a political career; he did what was best to further that. President of the Law Review, he knew, would make him immune to academic criticism; and it has (along with a willing suspension of curiosity from the MS media).
So, beyond his education, which everyone cites as being an indicator that he must be an intellectual heavyweight, what has Barrack Hussein Obama done, other than get elected to two positions? Tried any siginificant cases? Argue any major decisions? I'll give you that he is "electable". Beyond that, I'm not sure he is much of anything.
The argument, of course, is that Obama will surround himself with intelligent people who know what they are doing. We have learned over the last 8 years, however, that the president being the dumbest guy in the room doesn't work so well. I fear that Obama's meteoric rise to the top is not simply the work of Obama. He is a GREAT campaigner - ANYBODY can see that - some can exploit it.
A Classmate of Obama's chimes in:
Wayne Allyn Root's Million-Dollar Challenge
The Libertarian VP candidate wants Barack Obama to release his grades
Matt Welch | September 5, 2008
Last week, just before Sen. Barack Obama's (D-Ill.) big speech, Tim Cavanaugh and I attended a small fundraiser for Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee Wayne Allyn Root. The chatty Vegas sports bettor, memorably profiled by David Weigel two months back, was in a mind to talk about a fellow classmate of his at Columbia University back in the early 1980s, a guy by the name of Barack Obama.
Root is no fan of the Democratic nominee: "A vote for Obama is four years of Karl Marx, and no one should be happy about that," he told us and a few genial young libertarian activists over tails. "He's a communist! I don't care what anybody says. The guy's a communist.... And his mother was a card-carrying communist, and he says she's the most important person in his entire life; he learned everything from her."
But the thing Root really wanted to talk about was Obama's grades. Specifically, he was willing to bet a million dollars that he earned a better grade point average at Columbia than his old classmate, and that the only reason Obama went on to Harvard Law School was the color of his skin.
Some excerpts from the conversation:
Matt Welch: So tell us what we should know about Barack Obama that we don't?
Wayne Allyn Root: I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don't know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever!
Welch: Yeah, but you were like selling, you know, Amway in college or something, weren't you?
Root: Is that what you think of me! And the best damned Amway salesman ever!
Welch: No, I'm sure that you were an outgoing young man, I'm just guessing.
Root: I am! That's my point. Where was Obama? He wasn't an outgoing young man, no one ever heard of him.
Tim Cavanaugh: Maybe he was a late bloomer.
Root: Maybe. Or maybe he was involved in some sort of black radical politics.
Welch: Ooooooooooh.
Root: Maybe he was too busy smoking pot in his dorm room to ever show up for class. I don't know what he was doing!
Welch: Wait, you weren't smoking pot in your dorm room?
Root: No, I wasn't. I wasn't. But I don't hold that against anybody, but I wasn't.... Nobody recalls him. I'm not exaggerating, I'm not kidding.
Welch: Were you the exact same class?
Root: Class of '83 political science, pre-law Columbia University. You don't get more exact than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, 20th reunion, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! Who was he, and five years ago, nobody even knew who he was.
Other guy: Did he even show up to the reunion?
Root: I don't know! I didn't know him. I don't think anybody knew him. But I know that the guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Is that not strange? It's very strange.
Welch: That's peculiar! Do you have any theories?
Root: Don't have any theories. I don't know. Don't know why. Kept to himself.... The only thing I could even imagine is that he talks in his biographies about being, you know, his iden y crisis, his "am I black or am I white?" He chose black. And he hung out with a couple of black kids and never went near anybody and his wife? That's the only thing I can think of. All my buddies are white, what can I tell you! They don't know him, nobody's ever seen him, I don't know what to tell you.
Other guy: That's the era.
Root: That's the era. I mean, when I went to Columbia, the black kids were all at like tables going "Black Power!" We used to walk by and go, "What the are they talking about." And they didn't associate with us and we didn't associate with them. So if you track down a couple of black students, they'll probably know him. But nobody white's ever heard of this guy. It's quite amazing. Nobody remembers him. They don't remember him sitting in class.
Welch: Black power in '83?
Root: Ha ha. That's Columbia. Colubmia's radical, always was. There was gay power over here, and pot power over here, and black power over there, and Hispanic power over here, and feminism.
Welch: And what was your power?
Root: Oh I was the bookie guy, don't worry about it.... But here's the story that I think the press should be digging up, I really mean this, about Barack Obama. When George Bush annoyed everyone the first thing they went to was how dumb he was, and they said how bad he did in Yale, and blah blah blah, he got a C average. Then they found his C average was better than Al Gore's average, and it was better than John Kerry's average!
Cavanaugh: And then you stopped hearing the story.
Root: Right. But the point is all three of them had C averages. I had a B-plus, A-minus average at Columbia University.
Welch: Wait, you're bragging on your GPA?
Root: No, no I'm not, because here's the moral to the story.... I had a B-plus, A-minus average at Columbia University, in four years. When I graduated, I took the LSATs and I did well. I didn't do great, I did well; B-plus, A-minus average. My counselor at Columbia said don't even bother applying to Harvard Law School, because you can get into any law school in the country with your record, except Columbia, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton [Editor's Note: Princeton doesn't have a law school]. Except for the very top, you can get in anywhere, but don't even try those, because your grades don't cut it.
Well, everyone says how bright Barack is, but Barack won't release his transcripts from Columbia University.
Cavanaugh: Hmmmm.
Root: And I'd be willing to bet every dime I have in the world, a million dollars I'll put, I'll put a million dollars cash on the fact—
Welch: This is on the record—
Root: —that my GPA was better than Barack's—
Welch: Oooooh.
Root: ...and he got in based on the color of his skin.
Does anyone doubt that possibly Barack could have gotten into Harvard with a C average because he's black, where as I, white, couldn't get into the same school with a B-plus, A-minus average? And yet his wife says that America is a terrible nation unfair to minorities! I say, Au contraire!
I say the whole problem with America is we are racist against people because of the color of their skin. We're helping people because they're black. We're helping people because they're minority. We're helping people because they're poor. In reality only those who have the most skill and talent should get into Harvard, not because of the color of their skin.
So now I ask out loud in the press, I challenge my classmate to give his GPA against mine. And let's see if he really is the bright guy they all say he is. What if we discover he got into Harvard with a C average? Is he then the brilliant man America thinks he is? That would be a very good question, don't you think?
Welch: The follow-up I want to ask is: What if it's better than yours? You just said a million dollars!
Root: Well, who's taking the bet? I didn't hear anyone accept. No, I'm pretty sure I'm right. I'll go out on a limb. Listen, they always said with O.J. Simpson, you know, never ask the question if you don't know the answer, does the glove fit? I don't know the answer but I'm pretty sure I know the answer. He had a lower average than me and he got into Harvard and I didn't.
And so my answer is, has America really been unfair to minorities? No it hasn't. It was unfair to me. A white butcher's kid, whose father had no money, but nobody gave me a break. And do I have a chip on my shoulder? You're damn right I do. And I represent millions and millions of poor people in this country who weren't lucky enough to be poor and black, they were unlucky enough to be poor and white, and they can't get into Harvard. So maybe that country Barack's fighting for, he's got the wrong country here. He's been just fine in this country. The rest of us need someone to defend them....
Anyway my point is, for those of us in America who want to fight for talent being the determiner of who's successful or not, I'm your representative. Obama's the wrong representative. And for those who disagree, I say: I'm for affirmative action—I think the NBA should be 80 percent white. [...]
Welch: And are you hitting this note as you're doing all this media that you're doing from Nevada and stuff?
Root: I actually haven't; I brought it up tonight to you guys for the first time because I think reason is the right media to bring it up with, without being painted as a racist. Because I don't have a racist bone in my body.
she is a moron.
Never mind. I found my answer.
He has sponsored TWO WHOLE BILLS that became law as a U.S. Senator.
Now I'm not trying to defend Palin...I think she gets one shot tomorrow night to prove her readiness...BUT...why has no one in the media, this board, or anywhere else vetted Obama with the scrutiny and fine toothed comb that everyone seems to be after Palin with?
Everytime someone asks a question about Obama's readiness, the reply is that he's well-spoken and educated. And if someone asks to point to his accomplishments, Obama defenders deflect to something else.
I can't really pinpoint why so many are after Palin so fervently, yet Obama's similar lack of experience and accomplishments get overlooked by those same people.
Just read the transcript of the new Palin interview with Couric. To sum up, she couldn't name a single current events magazine that she reads when asked, couldn't name Time, Newsweek or US News and World Report. , does People count?
Said a teenage girl who has been raped by her father should carry the baby to term. She also seemed confused about what RU-486 is.
When asked about sexuality, said her best friend is a lesbo and had "made a choice" she didn't agree with, but they were friends nonetheless.
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