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mexican's and asians are really really really really racist.
mexican's and asians are really really really really racist.
you must have never been to memphis
And yet McCain has one of his largest leads in Tennessee...
I'm glad whottt doesn't like to generalize.
and no hyberbole was intended. asian's are just really xenophobic and blacks represent the xenoist part of that phobia and mexicans... i cant really explain that one myself. i guess they just tend to believe the stereotypes.
my uncle used to say that all blacks are untrustable... but obviously through life experiences ive found that not true.
I can't speak for everyone...I just know based on my own personal experiences and seeing up close the hiring practices in the restaurant business from many years ago....that hasn't changed much based on my impression when I go into a restaurant like that. A small sampling to be sure....but we'll see what happens.
im not saying anything... just stating that in memphis, from what i say, african americans worked freaking everywhere.
and he's gonna win TN because.. it's well... TN... even though some areas have high black populations... it's still predominatly white... maybe not even white, but redneck.
Matt Martinez who owned Matt's El Rancho in Austin ripped the application from a black guy out of my hand when I was going to turn it in. I was in the first class of white guys to ever work for him...and this was in the late 80's.
Found a poll you agree with now?
It sucks that it's done. I lost respect for both of my employers that did it, and felt genuinely sorry for the guys that were trying to get work. It was an extremely disappointing feeling seeing it done, and it made me not want to work at both of those places. I'm not going to say it's the reason I quit because it wasn't, at least not the main reason. I needed money and that trumped any racial crusades I might have been inclined to take on. But there was a weight to working there after those experiences...and I never enjoyed the conversations with my employers as much as I had previously. I personally felt like a racist in the true sense of the word, not the politicized definition, just for working there.
I don't think America is ready to elect a black man President...but it's a cultural thing not a just because he's black.
It's that he's black, and his middle name is Hussein, and he's a leftist Democrat and goes to a church that says GD America. More importantly...he's got a militant following(the bulk of which seem to be young white males ironically enough) that plays exactly on the Angry Black Man stereotype that repels many Americans. And he doesn't have a unifying message...and even if he does, the media is playing the race card on his behalf. That is not how you break that barrier...that is how you make it bigger.
If that sort of thing worked Jesse Jackson would have been a Presidential Nominee long ago. He tried it.
You break that barrier by finding common ground, not difference...
IOW, he needs to be a staunch Pro-American Conservative to pull this one off...
Like...oh, Martin Luther King was.
The same way Sarah Palin is going to pull it off where Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro failed.
David Robinson could do it in a heartbeat, Bill Cosby could pull it off....Drob IMO would have the same sort of impact Palin is having with the Republicans. I know flat out white supremacist racists that are in love with David Robinson because of his Pro-American background and the way he carries himself.
Ironically enough...Obama is about as black as John Kerry is. He's half white, he was raised by white people, and he can act white with the best of them...but he got the wrong connections, the wrong political inclination, and he's going for it too soon for it to work IMO.
There are white male Democrats that are doing nothing but trumpeting Obama's greatness that are going to vote against him when it comes time to vote IMO, they're doing it to compensate for their inner racist feelings, to prove to themseves and others they aren't racists...that's the way white guilt works.
Whott's point about racism among minorities is a valid one. I didn't realize how much blacks and mexicans dislike each other until I moved back to Michigan and my children attended a school where the blacks were bussed in. My kid's dad is part mexican and my 2nd son looked hispanic. He had a terrible time in school - the black kids picked on him all the time - and only because he looked mexican.
So it will be quite interesting to see how this all plays out in November.
This thread needs to be bookmarked. This post specifically...
All races are racist IME. And it's taught...it's not a natural inclination. You go look at the way really young kids interact with each other and they don't have any concept of it. Then it starts...friends relatives start hammering it into their heads and they either embrace it for the rest of of their lives or then they hit the guilt phase and change...and then finally once they've had enough experiences and met enough people some of them learn to look beyond the stereotypes as well as the guilt.
That's the way it worked for me at least anyway.
Racism, sexism, phobia, even social and economic stratification...these concepts don't exist around cultures whose main orientation is surviving...they don't have the luxury of drawing lines.
Yes it exists...no it's not our nature for it to exist...any more than it is in the nature of a black dog or a white dog. It's a negative aspect of the bio cultural evolution of human beings, that arose with our ability to produce surplus and industrialized agriculture...and not our natural instinct.
Last edited by whottt; 10-01-2008 at 08:31 PM.
Care to add anything insightful to the discussion or are you just going to sit in the peanut gallery and make snide comments?(IE: the usual)
Obama is proving he is above race.
Oh really? Let's see - he's half white and half black - and yet which race does he claim to be? The one that's gotten him more advantages in life!
I do have to wonder what his mother and her family thinks of him - he pretty much denies being white.
It doesn't matter what Obama himself is or isn't above....
Should he try to "pass" as white? Do you think it would work?
And, BTW, his mother isn't alive, so what she thinks is completely irrelevant.
What he should've done is say I'm neither black nor white, but the best of both my parents; and as such, I can better represent all of America.
I still wouldn't have voted for him - but I would've had a little more respect. Instead - he plays the race card because it gets him further in life.
I didn't know his mother wasn't still alive - but still, it would be interesting to know what the white side of his family thinks.
I can't take Whottt seriously anymore. Sorry Whottt, but I just can't.
His mama deserted him and his grandparents took a while to get used to him when he was born.
Interesting fact...Obama pretty much despises white women that like black men...he thinks they're racists.
Must have something to do with his Mom.
Proof?
Just be sure to show up on election day...I am more certain McCain is going to win than I was W.
Yeah, he should have said something like that.
I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Patton’s Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth while he was overseas. I’ve gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the world’s poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners – an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.
It’s a story that hasn’t made me the most conventional candidate. But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup the idea that this nation is more than the sum of its parts – that out of many, we are truly one.
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