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    The rumors of him hating AJ were debunked I believe.

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    Again, keep buying into that myth.
    And you all keep buying into that myth of AJ being this genius savant of a head coach.

    Ask Pat Riley and Don Nelson what a great coach he is.

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    I scoffed at the notion earlier but is it time to reconsider the fact that Mahinmi may be a China doll? He's been hurt a whole lot with a bunch of different injuries since the Spurs drafted him. Pop even sounded a bit miffed about Mahinmi getting hurt. I don't want to put him in the Paino category but Pop sounded like he was ready to pull that trigger.
    No. Now is just the right time to ask that question. He might be soft. My personal take is that Mahinmi doesn't know how to fall. He came to basketball late and falling is, oddly enough, a kind of skill you that learn from starting young. And Vollyball is a sissy sport.

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    The Mav's had that look to them. They looked out of sync when they played N.O.--AJ will probably have a somewhat hard time now that Cuban put the "players quit on him and now want to be traded" tag on him. Kind of like PJ and the choking thing.
    No doubt. The Mavs have no mettle. AJ tried to bring it out of them but it was a hopeless cause.

    Their playoff losses to Miami and Golden State define epic fail. In fact, the tailspin is still in rapid descent.

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    Smells more like a retired jersey.

    Dallas Fan, Dallas Owner and Dallas Media doesn't understand how NBA championships are won. Name the last completely perimeter team to win an NBA championship. Even these Celtics scored a bunch of points in the paint by posting up everyone from Garnett to Pierce to Cassell to PJ Brown.

    If Dallas hates AJ, that tells me he was doing something right.
    I don't give a squat about what Dallas thinks. I also don't care about his "sparkling" coaching record. All anyone has to do is look at his playoff resume. AJ is 2-12 in his last 14 playoff games.

    The worse thing that could've happened to this lil' jerk was early success. He got badly outcoached by nearly every veteran coach he went up against in the playoffs. His success versus the Spurs was easy and simple - he knew what Pop would do before he did it. Same way Nellie outcoached him the next season

    No one is saying the guy isn't competent. He's just a rigid, stubborn, know-it-all, who resists making changes and slow to make adjustments during the course of a game. Those are not my words. Ask any assistant coach who's ever worked for the guy. Ask Paul Westphal how much input he had with Avery. Ask Del Harris. Better yet, ask any opposing coach he went up against during the playoffs. All these opinions from respected coaches, who have significant resumes of their own, do mean something.

    It seems that only place AJ is hailed as a coaching genius is here. When, in fact, he's badly overrated. Word gets out about a coach's shortcomings just as they do about player shortcomings. AJ's got his, except he, and the rest of you AJ defenders, are the only ones who don't have a clue as to what they are.
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    No doubt. The Mavs have no mettle. AJ tried to bring it out of them but it was a hopeless cause.

    Their playoff losses to Miami and Golden State define epic fail. In fact, the tailspin is still in rapid descent.
    +1

    The Golden State series especially exhibits AJ's lack of coaching expertise, and the true Dirk came out like always.

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    AJ shows up to watch Spurs training camp and now hes an assistant coach pushing Duncan to be traded? I don't get why people jump to so many conclusions.

    AJ overcame adversity and made a career when it looked like he had no place in the NBA when he came into the league. Helped get the Spurs their first championship and made a one dimensional Mavericks team buy into team defense when they made a run at the Championship.

    Avery should be welcomed to Pop atleast. He can provide some second opinions on the basketball court. I doubt he intends on imposing himself on the team. People need to chill lol. The guy knows his place he just apparently still loves the game of basketball. Imagine that...

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    And you all keep buying into that myth of AJ being this genius savant of a head coach.

    Ask Pat Riley and Don Nelson what a great coach he is.



    Haters like you will always hate.

    Pat Riley didn't totally outcoach Johnson.

    His Players choked, theres only so much he could freaking do.

    You haters are so unreal.

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    +1

    The Golden State series especially exhibits AJ's lack of coaching expertise, and the true Dirk came out like always.
    Lack of coaching expertise = bad matchup?

    Interesting.

    So did 2006 show Pop's lack of coaching expertise vs the Mavericks?

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    This is a guy who selfishly doesn't do anything or make any statement, unless it fits his own agenda.

    Personally, I'd rather he keep his coaching opinions to himself.

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    Haters like you will always hate.

    Pat Riley didn't totally outcoach Johnson.

    His Players choked, theres only so much he could freaking do.

    You haters are so unreal.
    And AJ nut-hangers, like you, will always find an excuse.

    No one was happier to see that Finals meltdown than me. On the heels of the Spurs disappointing loss to them, it was a sheer pleasure to watch the Mavs go up in flames.

    A meltdown of such proportions means there is blame all around. But do you think that jerk took any of it? No. He stepped up and blamed his players. Great characteristics of a leader.

    Go forward and build your statue.

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    TIMVP.......Why cant Avery be an asst coach for the Spurs anyway? Something to do with the contract with Dallas or what?

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    TIMVP.......Why cant Avery be an asst coach for the Spurs anyway? Something to do with the contract with Dallas or what?
    No way he'll give up Cuban's $4mil per season for a paltry assistant coach's salary. I couldn't blame him for that.

    Once you've tasted and become drunk with the "head wine" of being a head coach, it's very tough to sober up and go backward.

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    No way he'll give up Cuban's $4mil per season for a paltry assistant coach's salary. I couldn't blame him for that.

    Once you've tasted and become drunk with the "head wine" of being a head coach, it's very tough to sober up and go backward.
    Why would he have to give it up???

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    The Golden State series especially exhibits AJ's lack of coaching expertise, and the true Dirk came out like always.
    For the record, I think AJ is a fine coach. His players were chokers.

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    Why would he have to give it up???
    He shouldn't, he wouldn't and he wont.

    That's why any notion of him becoming an assistant is assinine.

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    Why would he have to give it up???
    Cuban only has to pay him until he gets another NBA job. Notice, I didn't say head coaching job. If he were to take the Spurs video co-ordinator job, he loses the $4M per year.

    It's funny that he regularly throws his players under the bus. That's the exact reason he went to Pop, and asked to have Bob Hill fired. Strange that he turns out to be Hill Lite.

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    He's not that big of a fool to take anything less than a head coaching job.

    We'll see how soon he gets one.

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    I don't give a squat about what Dallas thinks. I also don't care about his "sparkling" coaching record. All anyone has to do is look at his playoff resume. AJ is 2-12 in his last 14 playoff games.

    The worse thing that could've happened to this lil' jerk was early success. He got badly outcoached by nearly every veteran coach he went up against in the playoffs. His success versus the Spurs was easy and simple - he knew what Pop would do before he did it. Same way Nellie outcoached him the next season

    No one is saying the guy isn't competent. He's just a rigid, stubborn, know-it-all, who resists making changes and slow to make adjustments during the course of a game. Those are not my words. Ask any assistant coach who's ever worked for the guy. Ask Paul Westphal how much input he had with Avery. Ask Del Harris. Better yet, ask any opposing coach he went up against during the playoffs. All these opinions from respected coaches, who have significant resumes of their own, do mean something.

    It seems that only place AJ is hailed as a coaching genius is here. When, in fact, he's badly overrated. Word gets out about a coach's shortcomings just as they do about player shortcomings. AJ's got his, except he, and the rest of you AJ defenders, are the only ones who don't have a clue as to what they are.
    well said. AJ will be in the dog house forever unless the SPURS will ressurect his coaching career.

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    Seems like a lot of posters in this thread are post Avery/Drob/Sean E. era. Avery Johnson was a great point guard, especially for his size. He was a pass first guard with great leadership. And he has hit some big shots too. This was the time before high scoring guards, when the big men were dominating.
    He has done great things for the Spurs.

    He should of never been a head coach, not qualified like Palin. But he isn't trying to do that over here.

    He would be a tremendous asset to Spurs Organization.

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    Cuban only has to pay him until he gets another NBA job. Notice, I didn't say head coaching job. If he were to take the Spurs video co-ordinator job, he loses the $4M per year.

    It's funny that he regularly throws his players under the bus. That's the exact reason he went to Pop, and asked to have Bob Hill fired. Strange that he turns out to be Hill Lite.
    WHY??? Michael Finley was getting paid by dallas and here if I recall correctly. Why wouldnt the same be in effect for AJ????

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    This is a guy who selfishly doesn't do anything or make any statement, unless it fits his own agenda.

    Personally, I'd rather he keep his coaching opinions to himself.

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    And AJ nut-hangers, like you, will always find an excuse.

    No one was happier to see that Finals meltdown than me. On the heels of the Spurs disappointing loss to them, it was a sheer pleasure to watch the Mavs go up in flames.

    A meltdown of such proportions means there is blame all around. But do you think that jerk took any of it? No. He stepped up and blamed his players. Great characteristics of a leader.

    Go forward and build your statue.
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    WGAF about AJ.

    Dude, you guys are so gay for AJ.

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    I don't give a squat about what Dallas thinks.
    I've read posts of yours where you quote Dallas Fan, Dallas Owner, Dallas Player and now even Dallas Assistant Coach. You must care somewhat about what they are saying.

    I also don't care about his "sparkling" coaching record.
    Not caring about the coach with the highest winning percentage in NBA history doesn't strike me as objective.

    All anyone has to do is look at his playoff resume. AJ is 2-12 in his last 14 playoff games.
    Winning in the playoffs is damn hard. That is made infinitely harder when your owner is meddling and has backstabbed any authority you had over your own team. You really think Pop could be Pop if he had a meddling owner that didn't give him full autonomy.

    The worse thing that could've happened to this lil' jerk was early success.
    Early success? His first year with the Mavs he lost to the Suns. That's about as low as it gets.

    And technically, his first year put in charge of a team he won a championship with the Spurs. Pop was about to get fired and AJ went and re-designed the entire offense and was given full leadership rights and the went on to win the le. So yeah, if that's the success you are talking about, you can classify that as early success.


    His success versus the Spurs was easy and simple
    Beating the Spurs is simple and easy? That's why only AJ and Phil Jackson have beat the Spurs in the last decade? And AJ is the only coach to do it in a series in which he had less talent.

    Oh and everyone knows what the Spurs are going to do before they do it. They don't run complicated schemes.

    He got badly outcoached by nearly every veteran coach he went up against in the playoffs.
    Hyperbole much? Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Fratello want to speak with you. Mike D'Antoni would also like to send you a text message.

    No one is saying the guy isn't competent. He's just a rigid, stubborn, know-it-all, who resists making changes and slow to make adjustments during the course of a game. Those are not my words. Ask any assistant coach who's ever worked for the guy. Ask Paul Westphal how much input he had with Avery. Ask Del Harris. Better yet, ask any opposing coach he went up against during the playoffs. All these opinions from respected coaches, who have significant resumes of their own, do mean something.
    First of all, those are the exact same things critics said about Pop before he won a championship. , they still say that about Pop to this day after four championships.

    And secondly, would you like to produce any quotes? Those are a lot of accusations to be throwing against the wall without sourcing your work.

    It seems that only place AJ is hailed as a coaching genius is here.
    Who else would have an opinion on him? Dallas is just about the last place any strict coach could flourish ... and he was two wins away from a championship. The Dallas freakin' Mavericks. Two. Wins. Away. That is a damn impressive feat with all the non-basketball distractions a coach has to put up in that town.

    When, in fact, he's badly overrated. Word gets out about a coach's shortcomings just as they do about player shortcomings. AJ's got his, except he, and the rest of you AJ defenders, are the only ones who don't have a clue as to what they are.
    AJ isn't the perfect coach. He can easily rub anyone who comes in contact with him the wrong way. However, unlike others in the game, he's someone who does whatever it takes to win a championship. That is his one and only goal as a head coach. Not to get rich, not to last a long time or make people like him. Just win.

    Obviously you have something against that or you've let Dallas Media, Dallas Player and Dallas Owner brainwash you. He's not infallible but to have the regular season success and almost win a championship in that situation with that limited roster is something to be commended for ... not trashed.

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