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    To fact check ing org?

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    To fact check ing org?
    Yes.

    Please, whottt -- please make the trip to Chicago and request to look at and hold the do ent yourself.

    Do it now. You obviously have nothing better to do.

    You are now a ing joke. Congratulations.

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    Dude, even the right wing site that started all this by rehashing Jerome Corsi's ridiculous bull has figured it out:
    A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the do ent to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the do ent was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=73214

    Even these guys have conceded.

    When will you?

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    Fact check.org: owned by the Annenberg Foundation

    Check the logo and the ownershipstatement at the bottom for the University of Penn where the Annenberg has a school of communication.
    http://factcheck.org/

    Subsidiary of the Annenberg Foundation: The Chicago Annenberg Challenge

    LinkL:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annenberg_Foundation


    Chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge 1995-1999: Barrack Hussen Obama.

    Oh yeah, it was founded by William Ayers.

    Link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago...berg_Challenge


    Sorry...Factcheck.org is not good enough.


    It's just the internet.

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    You're a little late.

    Let me know who owns these guys, please.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=73214

    And really, if you are going to about anything on the internets, I expect nothing less than your taking your pathetic ass on a plane to Chicago and/or Hawaii to get to the real noninternets truth.

    And I don't expect you to post until you personally resolve what you claim is the burning issue of the election season.

    Get to it.

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    You're a little late.

    Let me know who owns these guys, please.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=73214

    And really, if you are going to about anything on the internets, I expect nothing less than your taking your pathetic ass on a plane to Chicago and/or Hawaii to get to the real noninternets truth.

    And I don't expect you to post until you personally resolve what you claim is the burning issue of the election season.

    Get to it.

    Damn...you obviously didn't even read the article you posted. I suggest you read it again. Meanwhile...I'll go on wondering why Obama doesn't just show his birth certificate to the court and get it over with.

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    I did.
    A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the do ent to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the do ent was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
    Did you?

    You are ing about the certificate -- or are you going to try to change the subject again?

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    Regardless, you'll just say it's the internet and doesn't count.

    So get to it, Scoop.

    Go to the source.

    This is that important to you, isn't it?

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    I did.


    Did you?

    You are ing about the certificate -- or are you going to try to change the subject again?
    RIF:
    The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.

    "Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."

    The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public.

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    I bet you're really gonna get nasty now

    He ought to just show it to the courts. It's probably BS, but why doesn't he just show it to the ing court?

    If he'd just show it to the courts...this would be over. You know they gave him a deadline and all he had to do...was show it, and he didn't. That's entirely the reason you and I are having this dicussion.

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    I bet you're really gonna get nasty now

    He ought to just show it to the courts. It's probably BS, but why doesn't he just show it to the ing court?

    If he'd just show it to the courts...this would be over. You know they gave him a deadline and all he had to do...was show it, and he didn't. That's entirely the reason you and I are having this dicussion.
    No, the reason we are having this discussion is that you have become so desperate that you are getting sloppy and not even bothering to even google the barest details of these issues anymore.

    Here's another article by folks who have seen the do ent.

    At PolitiFact.com, we’re all about original sources. We don’t take anyone at their word or take the reporting of other media organizations as proof. We go to the heart of the story, the source of the truth — original, corroborating do ents.

    When the official do ents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it’s identical). But every answer triggered more questions.

    And soon enough, after going to every length possible to confirm the birth certificate’s authenticity, you start asking, what is reasonable here?

    Because if this do ent is forged, then they all are.

    If this do ent is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/

    So are you really going the route of the other conspiracy theorists on the forum? Really?

    And just in case you were going to spout off without checking again, it's St. Petersburg, Florida.

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    No, the reason we are having this discussion is that you have become so desperate that you are getting sloppy and not even bothering to even google the barest details of these issues anymore.
    Sloppy? You are the asshat that has branded Palin an idiot and a liar(or some like that) for attempting to not give a hostile journalist a sound bite. Boy are you off...


    Here's another article by folks who have seen the do ent.



    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/
    So like I was sayin'...should be no problem for him to take it and show it to the court. The longer he puts it off, the more the speculation is going to grow. And image is everything.

    Look..

    1. It's obvious this guy is a Clinton supporter that has it in for Obama and is ing with him, trying to find anything he can get. He's trying to be a royal pain in the ass and arouse su ion...at the least.

    2. He's also taking donations to pursue the case.


    But I sitll think Obama needs to show it to the court.

    I try to think of the reasons he doesn't want to...

    1. It won't do any good. This guy is on a pursuit for a long form birth certificate which is some kind of red tape BS Obama doesn't want to mess with in the middle of an election.

    2. It'll be publicized, especially if he has to get the long form.

    3. He thinks he can play it to his advantage.

    4. He is pissed off and indignant it's actually gotten this far in court.



    Nonthelesss...he needs to show it to the court and get it over with. It's in his best interest. IF that last article you posed it true...he should have just shown it.

    So are you really going the route of the other conspiracy theorists on the forum? Really?
    And if he doesn't...you better get used to hearing about it.

    It's going to continue to nag until he shows it.

    Especially if the case gets dismissed.


    And just in case you were going to spout off without checking again, it's St. Petersburg, Florida.
    LOL if that's your attempt to prove it's not a socialist plot you picked the wrong continent to use as an example.

    The fact that it's a newspaper article written by a journalist is sufficient to arouse su ion....regardless of Nation.

    And the Annenberg connection...all I have to see is that it's(factcheck) run by 3 journalists and a College Professor to be su ious...after all, what chance is there that out of 3 journalists and a College Professor none of them are card carrying libs?
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    LOL

    You're the only one speculating. No one with any cred is talking about this. But sure, an issue from the summer that was long ago put to bed is now going to come up and be the focus of attention.

    Why?

    Because Whottt says so

    Why is Palin qualified?

    Because Whottt says so

    Why are the polls wrong?

    Because Whottt says so

    And so on and so on.

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    He doesn't have to show it to the court because....he doesn't have to.

    No one is talking about this except Berg and you, and you are both insane.

    Seriously whottt, go to Chicago. Then go to Hawaii.

    Until you do so, shut the up. You set the bar, you follow through.

    ing idiot. You are a s of the poster you once were. All because you fell in love with some who will never love you back.

    Read it again.

    Sarah Palin will never love you.

    Now get busy on those travel plans, Scoop.

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    Manny...as a wise group of Americans once said to me...questioning your leaders is your Patriotic duty.


    Man if you guys are already getting this chapped you're going to be bouncing off the walls in 4 years if Obama should win.

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    He doesn't have to show it to the court because....he doesn't have to.

    No one is talking about this except Berg and you, and you are both insane.

    Seriously whottt, go to Chicago. Then go to Hawaii.

    Until you do so, shut the up. You set the bar, you follow through.

    ing idiot. You are a s of the poster you once were. All because you fell in love with some who will never love you back.

    Read it again.

    Sarah Palin will never love you.

    Now get busy on those travel plans, Scoop.
    Defensive much?

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    Manny...as a wise group of Americans once said to me...questioning your leaders is your Patriotic duty.


    Man if you guys are already getting this chapped you're going to be bouncing off the walls in 4 years if Obama should win.
    Yeah, we'll be starting several desperate threads a day like you.

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    Defensive much?
    So when are you leaving town, Scoop?

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    Yeah, we'll be starting several desperate threads a day like you.

    Worst Chumpism ever....totally missed the target.

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    Worst Chumpism ever....totally missed the target.
    I wouldn't be surprised. It's five in the morning and I'm trying to converse with someone who has clearly lost his .

    Go start a thread about Obama's radical madras indoctrination.

    And go to Chicago.

    Dumbass.

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    I wouldn't be surprised. It's five in the morning and I'm trying to converse with someone who has clearly lost his .

    I haven't lost ...my logic is rational and reasonable. It's you that is defensive...



    Go start a thread about Obama's radical madras indoctrination.
    Did you know they have a video of him in muslim garb in the 80's? No .


    And go to Chicago.

    Dumbass.

    My my...have a bit of the redass do we?

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    Sloppy? You are the asshat that has branded Palin an idiot and a liar(or some like that) for attempting to not give a hostile journalist a sound bite. Boy are you off...
    Kori just called her an airhead, and I don't see you calling her names... You know, Sarah is very disappointed that her little pet didn't defend her... PUSSY

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    <grasping at straws>

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    Whottt is becoming as much of an embarrassment as palin.

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    I have never seen whottt this desperate.
    That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".

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