6 points, 5 boards, 1-2 steals + great perimeter defense in 20 minutes = quality starter on a championship team. If he can give that in 20 minutes, he'll be only a better in a 30 min a night role once Odom leaves. Wheres the overhype again? Tell me where people were hyping this kid to be all-star.
Exactly Odom off the bench would be great, but he has proved time and time again that he sucks huge bag of s in the clutch. I can see situations where Odom will be used less in crunch time than he has in years past due to how the deep the Lakers are right now.
Yes thank you for being re ed.
He was coming off a injury that had him out 5 months, about 4 of which where he could not run at all. He only began going full speed 2-3 weeks prior to the Spurs series. You don't just throw a guy into the rotation with heavy minutes in the middle of the playoffs, especially when said player came over via trade in January and has barely had to acclimate himself to his teammates and system. This is logic 101.
Phil Jackson said he was going to play in the Spurs series. His injury was well do ented. He still said he was going to use him.
He didn't.
Phil Jackson is known for his mind games. For the Spurs series, it was to motivate Luke Walton and to give Pop something else to think about. Right now, he's talking about Ariza to motivate Odom.
The only thing re ed is you not understanding that.
6 points and 5 rebounds a game is not a quality starter for a high school freshman team.
[QUOTE=21_Blessings;2803081]6 points, 5 boards, 1-2 steals + great perimeter defense in 20 minutes = quality starter on a championship team. If he can give that in 20 minutes, he'll be only a better in a 30 min a night role once Odom leaves. Wheres the overhype again? Tell me where people were hyping this kid to be all-star.
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lakernation.com, kb24.com etc. im with u man. i wish ariza can flourish but hes not gonna be comfortable in phils system he only played a handful of games and had a few moments. screw the points, all we need from him is to hustle on D. if it was up to me, i would start sasha. he was exposed by allen in the finals but he plays pesky D and he can hit the three.
IF ariza can develop a jumper, he can be the next bowen, battier, etc.
BTW to the OP Odom didnt pout. he was just startled by that comment in the beginning. there is no controversey in LA. He said theres no such thing as sacrifice in a championship team. by that he meant sacrifices arent even sacrifices. its just how its gotta be to win.
Of course he wants to start. its his contract year he wants PT but he also said today after practice that if thats what phil wants to do hes out of his control so hes gonna do what it takes to win.
You're re ed, thank you. Phil Jackson said he was giong to play in the Spurs series. Please show us where he said he was going to use for heavy minutes. Ariza wasn't in basketball shape, the Lakers were playing well, you don't just throw a guy into the game for 20+ minutes that wasn't able to play any full speed basketball for 4 months just prior.
The only re ed thing you're not understanding is that Ariza was just cleared to actually do running related things a couple weeks before that.
6, 5 rebounds 1-2 steals in 20 minutes (keyword re ) + great perimeter defense which Ariza plays is a quality starter you ing moron. Considering how deep the Lakers are right now Ariza's offensive touches are going to be limited. He's not there to put up points lots of points.
"Odom Opts To Pout" was the headline on this article in The Orange County Register's sports section this morning. When I went to their site to post the article, it had the different headline. I chose to use the one from the paper, I didn't write it.
He said he was going to use him. He put him in only in garbage minutes. He might as well not used him at all.
I understand that. And, that has nothing to do with the fact Phil said he was going to use him. If that was an issue, Ariza would not have even dressed and Jackson wouldn't have said he was going to use him against the Spurs.The only re ed thing you're not understanding is that Ariza was just cleared to actually do running related things a couple weeks before that.
You're re ed.
That's a decent role player. That's not a quality starter on any team. Stop being an idiot.6, 5 rebounds 1-2 steals in 20 minutes (keyword re ) + great perimeter defense which Ariza plays is a quality starter you ing moron. Considering how deep the Lakers are right now Ariza's offensive touches are going to be limited. He's not there to put up points lots of points.
oh ic my mistake.
bottom line for odom is all we need him is to do what he said yesterday after practice. he said all he wants to do "grab 12 boards dish out 8 dimes and take 8 shots to get 10 points a nite"
disagree
marvin williams
josh smith
al horford
where do you put odom in that lineup? hawks would need a pointguard before they sign another sf/pf combo playa
odom should just accept the fact that he's not going to get double digit salary with the lakers. he can play there for less or he can go to a losing team, put up good stats but no championship les in sight
ya heard
and to think they coulda had CP3 or D williams
You can take the player out of the Clipper organization, but you can't take the Clipper out of the player... a lesson we all learned with Derek Anderson.
. I concur with this statement.
anyone who doesnt thinkJackson is pulling this "improved jumpshot" out of his ass, is a fool.
no way in , Trevor "i was almost out of the league a year ago" Ariza will bounce back from injury and start over Odom.
bynum maximum contract extension = west coast basketball fans are suckers of satan's .
Move Josh Smith to small forward and Marvin Williams to the bench. Start Odom at power forward. They could use point guard help, but they could also use Odom's rebounding, ability to play power forward more effectively than Josh Smith, and his play making ability.
That is one of the reason I believe Jackson is bluffing. I don't believe he can get away with starting Ariza because he's simply not a good enough shooter. Unless he's all of a sudden become a proflic 3-pt shooter over the summer, I don't see it. Jackson will need to start a shooter at the SF position to help spread the floor for Bynum and Gasol.
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