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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    Already broke 10,000 and still headed down. This is gonna get VERY ugly.

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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    Already broke 10,000 and still headed down. This is gonna get VERY ugly.




    I would jump to my death, but there are no buildings high enough in College Station.

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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    I would jump to my death, but there are no buildings high enough in College Station.
    college station, huh.
    walk by a sign that reads "Clean Restrooms", then do it.
    that should keep you occupied.

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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    college station, huh.
    walk by a sign that reads "Clean Restrooms", then do it.
    that should keep you occupied.
    huh?

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    Veteran marini martini's Avatar
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    college station, huh.
    walk by a sign that reads "Clean Restrooms", then do it.
    that should keep you occupied.
    Trying to find a clean restroom in C.S. would prolong your life!!!

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    I think you guys missed the joke and that is even funnier than the joke itself.

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    Beware of the Voices Bigzax's Avatar
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    I would jump to my death, but there are no buildings high enough in College Station.


    just build a bonfire...

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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    just build a bonfire...
    nice. i'm sure their architectural program enrollment took a sharp dive after that.

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    Germany takes hot seat as Europe falls into the abyss

    We face extreme danger. Unless there is immediate intervention on every front by all the major powers acting in concert, we risk a disintegration of global finance within days. Nobody will be spared, unless they own gold bars.


    Investors will learn today whether the Paulson bail-out - fattened to $850bn (£480bn) by Congress - can begin to halt the death spiral in the credit system. So far, the response looks terrible.
    Germany is now in the hot seat. The collapse of a rescue deal for Hypo Real Estate on Saturday threatens a €400bn (£311bn) bankruptcy that nearly matches the Lehman Brothers debacle for sheer scale.
    Chancellor Angela Merkel has been forced to pull her head out of the sand, guaranteeing all German savings, a day after she rebuked Ireland for doing much the same thing. Reality intrudes.
    During the past week, we have tipped over the edge, into the middle of the abyss. Systemic collapse is in full train. The Netherlands has just rushed through a second, more sweeping nationalisation of Fortis. Ireland and Greece have had to rescue all their banks. Iceland is facing an Argentine denouement.
    The US commercial paper market is closed. It shrank $95bn last week, and has lost $208bn in three weeks. The interbank lending market has seized up. There are almost no bids. It is a ghost market. Healthy companies cannot roll over debt. Some will have to sack staff today to stave off default.
    As the unflappable Warren Buffett puts it, the credit freeze is “sucking blood” out of the economy. “In my adult lifetime, I don’t think I’ve ever seen people as fearful,” he said.
    We are fast approaching the point of no return. The only way out of this calamitous descent is “shock and awe” on a global scale, and even that may not be enough.
    Drastic rate cuts would be a good start. Central bankers still paralysed by a misplaced fear of inflation – whether in Europe, Britain, or the US – have become a public menace and should be held to severe account by our democracies. The imminent and massive danger is now self-feeding debt deflation.
    The lesson of the 1930s is that any country trying to reflate in isolation will be punished. The crisis will ricochet from one economy to another until every one is crippled. We are seeing it play again in this drama as our leaders fail to rise above their narrow, parochial agendas.
    The European Central Bank – which raised rates into the teeth of the crisis in July – has played a shockingly destructive role in this enveloping slump. Its growth predictions this year have been, and still are, delusional. Neglecting its global role, it has vastly complicated the fire-fighting efforts of Washington.
    It could have offered “cover” to the US Federal Reserve this spring when Ben Bernanke was forced by events to slash rates to 2pc. It could at least have signalled an end to monetary tightening. That is how an ally ought to behave.
    Instead, it stuck maniacally to its Gothic script, with equally unhappy consequences for both sides of the Atlantic, as well as for China, Japan, and India. The euro rocketed yet further, which it turn set off an oil shock as crude metamorphosed into an anti-dollar with leverage.
    The ECB policy was self-defeating, even on its own terms. It merely drove headline inflation even higher, while deeper forces of underlying debt deflation pulled the real economies of Germany, Italy, France, and Spain into a recessionary vortex.
    Far from offering reassurance, the weekend mini-summit of EU leaders served only to highlight that nobody is in charge of this runaway train. There is still no lender of last resort in euroland. The £12bn stimulus package is risible.
    Angela Merkel has revealed her deep limitations. It was she who vetoed French efforts to launch a pan-EU rescue package, suspecting that any lifeboat fund would prove to be Trojan Horse – a way of co-opting German taxpayers into colossal transfers of wealth to Latin Europe.
    In that she is right, but it is too late now for dysfunctional EU political games. By demanding that those who caused the damage should pay for it, she crossed the line into caricature, or worse.
    Her comments echo word for word the “we’re alright Jack” at udes of Euro-pols during the first US banking crises in 1930-1931, until the storm hit Europe and the entire cast was swept away by furious electorates, or simply shot. Thankfully, this EU stupidity is at last drawing serious criticism.
    “We have to make sure Europe takes its responsibilities, like the US: action must be taken quickly and in a concerted manner,” said IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
    As for the US itself, it has not yet exhausted its policy arsenal. It can escalate further up the nuclear ladder. The Fed can cut interest rates from 2pc to zero. If that fails, it can let rip with the mass purchase of US debt.
    “The US government has a technology, called a printing press,” said Fed chief Ben Bernanke in November 2002. (His helicopter speech).
    In extremis, the Treasury/Fed can swoop into any market to shore up asset prices. They can buy Florida property. They can even buy SUV guzzlers from the car lots in Detroit, and mangle them in scrap yards. As Bernanke put it, the Fed can “expand the menu of assets that it buys.”
    There is a devilish catch to this ploy, of course. It assumes that foreign creditors will tolerate such action.
    Japan entered its Lost Decade as the world’s top creditor, with a vast pool of household savings to cushion the slump. America starts its purge with net external liabilities of $3 trillion, and a savings rate near zero. Foreigners own over half the US Treasury debt, and two thirds of all Fannie, Freddie, and other US agency bonds.
    But the risk of a dollar collapse is one for the distant future. Right now the world faces the opposite problem. There is a wild scramble for dollars as a $10 trillion pyramid of global lending based on dollar balance sheets “delevers” with a vengeance.
    This is a “short squeeze” on those who have used the dollar for a vast global carry trade. International banks are facing margin calls on their dollar leverage. It is why the Fed is having to provide $1.25 trillion in dollar liquidity for the entire global system, according to estimates by Brad Setser from the Center for Geoeconomic Studies.
    The crisis engulfing Europe, Asia and emerging markets, makes life easier for Washington. The United States is becoming a safe-haven again.
    The Fed can now hope to pursue monetary stimulus “a l’outrance” without being slapped down by the currency, debt, and commodity markets. Take comfort where you can.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...the-abyss.html
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    well



    GO SPURS!!!

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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    I think you guys missed the joke and that is even funnier than the joke itself.
    Oh, was that a joke? I think the joke is someone from San Antonio making a comment about the cleanliness of public restrooms.


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    Veteran marini martini's Avatar
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    The crisis engulfing Europe, Asia and emerging markets, makes life easier for Washington. The United States is becoming a safe-haven again.

    Is this the joke???

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    Maybe we can give Europe & Asia $700 billion, too!

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    Goodwill Ambassador spurs_fan_in_exile's Avatar
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    It's a shame the markets aren't responding better to the bail out, but my investments in Wooden Arrow Manufacturing Inc. are doing quite well.

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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    It's a shame the markets aren't responding better to the bail out, but my investments in Wooden Arrow Manufacturing Inc. are doing quite well.
    don't forget about the rum makers.

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    Goodwill Ambassador spurs_fan_in_exile's Avatar
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    don't forget about the rum makers.
    My investments in that field are extremely short term.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    maybe bin laden will die laughing.

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    Forum Official Personal Life Coach BacktoBasics's Avatar
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    My investments in that field are extremely short term.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    [QUOTE=Viva Las Espuelas;2809539
    But the risk of a dollar collapse is one for the distant future. Right now the world faces the opposite problem. There is a wild scramble for dollars as a $10 trillion pyramid of global lending based on dollar balance sheets “delevers” with a vengeance.
    This is a “short squeeze” on those who have used the dollar for a vast global carry trade. International banks are facing margin calls on their dollar leverage. It is why the Fed is having to provide $1.25 trillion in dollar liquidity for the entire global system, according to estimates by Brad Setser from the Center for Geoeconomic Studies.
    [/QUOTE]

    By the by this will make oil waaaay cheaper. Economic downturn followed by an appreciating dollar= oil to drop a lot.

    If you have the credit and some cash saved up, I hear that automakers are offering some VERY VERY hefty discounts on large trucks and SUVs.

    If you need one of those types of vehicles for your business, and can deduct running costs as expenses, this makes for a very good deal.

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    Believe. Richard Cranium's Avatar
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    buy low, sell high

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    9mm nkdlunch's Avatar
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    haha Europe is gonna fall to levels of the 1970s.

    At this pace, the new world super economies will be Iran, Russia and Venezuela

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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    Going off the cliff again.

    Down 675 @ 9654 and dropping like a rock. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Going off the cliff again.

    Down 675 @ 9654 and dropping like a rock. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

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    700 Billion will fix this

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    Veteran marini martini's Avatar
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    Going off the cliff again.

    Down 675 @ 9654 and dropping like a rock. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
    Does this mean now I can get a pony??


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    Eat More Chips AlamoSpursFan's Avatar
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    I'm loving the out of my decision to sell the day after the first big fall...

    Now I need Pepsico to fall into the 40's so I can buy it back with a nice little $30 per share profit...

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