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    no son its because your too stupid to read and learn the codes.
    BRHornets45, I think you are so sexy after watching that video! I love those glasses you wear and the way you enunciate "A-rab!"

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    No, son, it's because you're too stupid to read and learn the codes.

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    In other words, young people and make exceptions for the old. Someone's old enough to go and die for his country out of high school, but he can't be trusted to make an intelligent vote if he chooses to educate himself.
    Are you talking about loans or grants?

    A loan is not a subsidy. A grant is. My whole point is that we have voters who have a financial stake in who they put in office over those who want to take from the government. I would be open to school grant recipiants voting. But not those who are chonically on welfare type programs.

    What I gave was a very basic outline. Take my purpose over any specific numbered item because the list of exceptions and reasons to deny voting would end up being rather long.

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    A loan is not a subsidy. A grant is. My whole point is that we have voters who have a financial stake in who they put in office over those who want to take from the government. I would be open to school grant recipiants voting. But not those who are chonically on welfare type programs.

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    Yes, it worked out so well when only white male property owners could vote. How very 18th-centuryish of you.

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    You're going at it from the wrong angle son.

    Income should not matter.


    A basic test to prove you know the current political theater would suffice.

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    Are you talking about loans or grants?

    A loan is not a subsidy. A grant is. My whole point is that we have voters who have a financial stake in who they put in office over those who want to take from the government. I would be open to school grant recipiants voting. But not those who are chonically on welfare type programs.

    What I gave was a very basic outline. Take my purpose over any specific numbered item because the list of exceptions and reasons to deny voting would end up being rather long.
    did your mom vote when you were on welfare?

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    How much do soldiers make in a year?

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    Are you talking about loans or grants?

    A loan is not a subsidy. A grant is. My whole point is that we have voters who have a financial stake in who they put in office over those who want to take from the government. I would be open to school grant recipiants voting. But not those who are chonically on welfare type programs.

    What I gave was a very basic outline. Take my purpose over any specific numbered item because the list of exceptions and reasons to deny voting would end up being rather long.
    A significant portion of student loans are federally-subsidized. Since you're such a stickler for the meaning of words, I figured when you said subsidies you meant subsidies, which would include federally-subsidized student loans. If you aggregate the amount of subsidized student loan debt that many young professionals have and compare it with their average tax burdens, it becomes fairly obvious that young professionals and others who must borrow money to attend college are simply not welcome to vote in your America.

    Good to know.

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    hey wold cobra, did your mom vote when you were on welfare?

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    So the pigs want to make some animals more equal than others.

    Shocking.

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    So the pigs want to make some animals more equal than others.

    Shocking.
    Just wait until they realize one of their own is plotting against them.

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    No, son, it's because you're too stupid to read and learn the codes.

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    A basic test to prove you know the current political theater would suffice.







    Fascists or people who see the country slipping away to the have-nots? Which in reality means, government pigs using illusion to just gain more power.

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    You're going at it from the wrong angle son.

    Income should not matter.


    A basic test to prove you know the current political theater would suffice.
    So, who would decide if you know 'enough'? What would 'suffice'?

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    - if they are unemployed

    - if they are living off of the government via welfare, housing, etc.

    - if they make LESS than $10,000 per year.

    After all sons. what are these people doing for the country anyways other than living off of other peoples tax dollars??? cause God knows 95% of them will vote for Democrats to give them MORE irresponsibility ... if they even vote at all. amen. thanks sons god bless.
    More irresponsibility is teh sux.

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    is wild cobra going to abandon this thread without answering the question?

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    Great idea. Perhaps we should consider letting them count only as 3/5ths of a vote.
    I laughed.

    Heartily.

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    Are you talking about loans or grants?

    A loan is not a subsidy. A grant is. My whole point is that we have voters who have a financial stake in who they put in office over those who want to take from the government. I would be open to school grant recipiants voting. But not those who are chonically on welfare type programs.

    What I gave was a very basic outline. Take my purpose over any specific numbered item because the list of exceptions and reasons to deny voting would end up being rather long.
    We should just move all of the nation's polling places several miles outside of the 'hood. And make sure they're not located on a bus route.

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    Are you guys going to clue him in or leave him in the dark. His lack of response makes you wonder if he is even black, especially since he was sensitive enough to start a thread on being called a got.

    Ok, Ill give the first clue...

    what's the point? the dude is so stupid, it would be pointless. I mean, I could say "Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3" and the jackass would still be clueless as to what the "3/5ths of all other persons" is referring to

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    How much do soldiers make in a year?
    Well, here is the pay chart effective January 2006:

    Military Pay Charts

    I don't know if they got a pay raise for 2007 and 2008. Probably not with the democrats running congress. Annually, it varies allot. If you figure a new recruit at E2 pay for 1 year, living in the barracks, no family, figure $17,128.80 plus clothing alloance, free food, free living accomodations. Not a bad pay for having all your basic living expenses paid for. It is all, after tax, your money to do as you please. Soldiers with dependance and/or who live off base get paid more.

    I left with 11 years of service as an E-5 when I left in 1992, my base pay was $1430 monthly if I remember right. Today, it would be $2496.60 by the 2006 chart. Base pay is all that military personel pay taxes on. Housing allowence would probably be about $1200 here I live with COLA, Separate Rations $272.35, clothing allowence probably about $25.

    hard to say, but when I left in 1992, I figured I needed a job that paid just over $18 per hour to have the same net pay after taxes. It took me a few years before I was making more after tax money than I did in the service.

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    A significant portion of student loans are federally-subsidized. Since you're such a stickler for the meaning of words, I figured when you said subsidies you meant subsidies, which would include federally-subsidized student loans.
    You know, I get real discouraged communicating with people like you, who either don't understand, or purposely twist what is said. I would not disallow someone taking out a loan from voting. I don't know all the nuances involved in a student loan being backed by the govornment, but what little subsidy is involved, is in the reduction of the interest rate, and insuring it. Am I right or wrong? The money is expected to be paid back with interest, right?

    If you aggregate the amount of subsidized student loan debt that many young professionals have and compare it with their average tax burdens, it becomes fairly obvious that young professionals and others who must borrow money to attend college are simply not welcome to vote in your America.

    Good to know.
    You say all this after I specifically say how I feel about these things. Besides, not all loans are subsidized.

    Do you think you are smart by assigning what I mean rather than ask?

    I find that really stupid. In fact, if I were an employer, people who made business decisions like what you just illistrated would be history. Is that how you think at your job? If so, I feel sorry for your employer.

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    FWDT is too stupid for WC and BRHornets tastes.

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    FWDT is too stupid for WC and BRHornets tastes.

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    You know, I get real discouraged communicating with people like you, who either don't understand, or purposely twist what is said. I would not disallow someone taking out a loan from voting. I don't know all the nuances involved in a student loan being backed by the govornment, but what little subsidy is involved, is in the reduction of the interest rate, and insuring it. Am I right or wrong? The money is expected to be paid back with interest, right?
    did your mother vote when you were on welfare?



    You say all this after I specifically say how I feel about these things. Besides, not all loans are subsidized.

    Do you think you are smart by assigning what I mean rather than ask?
    did your mother vote when you were on welfare?

    I find that really stupid. In fact, if I were an employer, people who made business decisions like what you just illistrated would be history. Is that how you think at your job? If so, I feel sorry for your employer.
    did your mother vote when you were on welfare?

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    Great idea. Perhaps we should consider letting them count only as 3/5ths of a vote.
    Ah, finally...a strict Cons utionalist.

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