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He's not boring! He's Big Fun!
Allanon was posting these, but it's Duncan.
NBA Top 50: Tim Duncan (No. 5)
by Tom Ziller (author feed)
FanHouse's Tom Ziller argues his ranking of the top 50 players in the NBA.
Tim Duncan needs no explanation here. Generally regarded as one of the greatest pivots in the league's history, Duncan has dominated the NBA for the last decade like no other active player ... not even Shaq. Duncan's lows (2005-06, '07-08) are still top 10 material. His heights -- well, few could dream of reaching them.
Big Fun(damental) has a crystal defensive record. In the modern era, only Dikembe Mutombo can reasonably be considered a peer as an anchor, shotblocker, defensive quarterback, rebounder and pure stopper. The way Duncan plays defense is the way most kids in the schoolyard see Kobe play offense: simple domination. In eight of his 11 seasons, Duncan has been voted to first team All-Defense; in the other three seasons, he made the second team. He's top 20 all-time in blocks and rebounds per game ... and that's playing on a slow team in any era where offenses are favored (as opposed to the 1970s and 80s, where rules and talent levels left a lot more rebound opportunities).
If that's enough, he's one of the most potent offensive weapons ever. His usage rate is top 15 all-time, meaning less than 15 players in the history of the NBA have been responsible for a larger share of their team's offense. ! So yes, his overall offensive efficiency numbers aren't spectacular -- free throws remain the sometimes fatal flaw -- but he gets the job done at above-average rate for a ton of possessions.
Combine those unbelievable attributes with a consistently solid supporting cast and a great coaching staff, and Duncan has never missed the playoffs. (I don't suspect he'll start now.) And in the playoffs, he is typically amazing. All this overwhelming success has seriously altered draft strategies: facing off with a talent like Kevin Durant, is is not obvious Duncan is the reason Portland picked Greg Oden in '07? Dwight Howard in '04? Going big is nothing new, but putting an emphasis on finding someone who can change the game on the glass and in the defensive paint ... that stems from Duncan's long-lasting success.
Should we expect Duncan to slow down this season? His numbers will look better, I can assure you, with Manu Ginobili out a while. But the uptick on offense might be blurred -- San Antonio had trouble scoring at times last season with a full deck; without Manu, teams will do everything they can to limit Duncan and Tony Parker, and all that attention could wear Big Fun out. Will that affect his defense? Or will Kurt Thomas' presence more than make up the difference? I won't bet against Duncan, that's for sure. Another MVP-type season is as sure as the tide.
He's not boring! He's Big Fun!
He doesn't look very in happy about it.
that is funny
Shoot, neegro, that's all you got to say!
I'm sending the Wolf.
I would have liked for him to have had some more at ude...guys would grab him and grope him and he'd just let it go. I would have paid to have seen Timmy body-slam some dude at least once.He's not boring! He's Big Fun!
So how do you Spur fans feel about the #5 ranking?
There are only 4 spots left and he's already gotten DWade out of the way so that leaves Kobe, Lebron and CP3, who am I missing as the 4th person?
Last edited by Allanon; 10-08-2008 at 05:19 PM.
Solid nr.
I haven't checked his list, what number is Garnett? Shaq?
Edit: I just checked, neither of them are on it yet.
LOL, I was looking at the rest of the list and this was the picture they used for Dirk:
hahaha that sign in the background is all types of ironic.
Ah yes, KG, I think you nailed it, that's the dude who's missing, I was drawing a blank there.
It's too late for Shaq, it's gotta be KG if he isn't on the list yet.
But KG in front of Duncan?
ps. Yup, I checked the list again too, no KG yet so it's gotta be him...
KG before Duncan is ludicrous...just because he won that 1 ring.
Last edited by Allanon; 10-08-2008 at 06:29 PM.
Garnett over Duncan is ridiculous. We've re-hashed it here several times. Garnett finally getting a ring still doesn't put him anywhere near Duncan's league to me. But that's the fun of these lists. Everyone is en led to their opinion.
Duncan is hands down the best NBA player. Only Lebron comes close. This is BS!!
I agree with duncan228.
Anyone look at Duncan's rebounding in the playoffs last year? Duncan took in about 15 boards per game to Garnett's 10.
Look I don't wanna bag Garnett, but putting him ahead of Duncan gives me no choice as that's a JOKE. A FREAKING JOKE.
dude its been the joke since the celtics won the ring, nearly everyone of that team overnight has become way overrated
fukn rondo top 10 PG? give me a break, and PP outburst being better than kobe hahahhaa....and KG also.
Don't worry, after this year Tim will leapfrog KG again, because no way the Celtics are as good as they were last year. The real way to finally put this KG & Duncan rivalry to rest is to have Tim dethrone the current champions and reclaim his spot as the King!
preferably, with Tim owning KG.
Who is #1-4?
We'll know in the next few days as he releases the rest.
Some names left: LeBron, Garnett, Kobe, Chris Paul, Shaq.
Comparing Duncan to KG now because he was 1 ring is like going back to '95 and comparing Drexler to MJ after he finally won his first ring which is there is no comparision.
I might not go that far, but Tim is clearly superior, if we're not talking about the average NBA fan who values flash over true skills.
There's no way Shaq will be in the top 4 at this point in his career so I'm guessing he's going to miss this list.
He's not as good as before but to entirely dismiss Shaq in the top 50 is crazy.
Ziller has repeated demonstrated that he knows very little about the NBA.
lol at the spur fans who think these lists are supposed to cater to duncan.
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