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He's winning.
Forget what he says, look at his voting record, look at his friends, look at his history:
Everything below is Hyperlinked to a site within the Chicago Democratic party archives, there is no conjecture, no guessing, The fact is that as recently as 1996 Senator Obama was an active member of the Chicago Democratic Socialist Party:
On their website the Democratic Socialist of America (DSA) has a description of their political perspective called Where We Stand. It says, in part,
At least according to its newsletter called the New Ground ,Senator Barack Obama attended at least a few meetings of the Chicago Chapter of this group in 1996. And from the way he was described in the newsletter he "talked the talk" and "walked the walk".
New Ground 45
SENATOR OBAMA EVEN SIGNED A CONTRACT:March - April, 1996
A Town Meeting on Economic Insecurity: Employment and Survival in Urban America
By Bob Roman
Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. En led "Employment and Survival in Urban America", the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats. The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago's 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA's National Political Committee....
....Now the issue is again coming to the front, but he wished the issue was on the Democratic agenda not just on Buchanan's.
One of the themes that has emerged in Barack Obama's campaign is "what does it take to create productive communities", not just consumptive communities. It is an issue that joins some of the best instincts of the conservatives with the better instincts of the left. He felt the state government has three constructive roles to play.
The first is "human capital development". By this he meant public education, welfare reform, and a "workforce preparation strategy". Public education requires equality in funding. It's not that money is the only solution to public education's problems but it's a start toward a solution. The current proposals for welfare reform are intended to eliminate welfare but it's also true that the status quo is not tenable. A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the "social wage" approach used by many social democratic labor parties. By "workforce preparation strategy", Barack Obama simply meant a coordinated, purposeful program of job training instead of the ad hoc, fragmented approach used by the State of Illinois today.
The state government can also play a role in redistribution, the allocation of wages and jobs. As Barack Obama noted, when someone gets paid $10 million to eliminate 4,000 jobs, the voters in his district know this is an issue of power not economics. The government can use as tools labor law reform, public works and contracts.....
Barack Obama is not an extreme Liberal. Hillary Clinton is an Extreme liberal. Barack Obama is a Socialist. He campaigned on their ticket, signed their contracts and attended their meetings.In September or October 1995 he signed a contract promising an visible and open relationship with the Marxist New Party:
About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to update members on local activities and to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates. The NP is being very active in organization building and politics. There are 300 members in Chicago. In order to build an organizational and financial base the NP is sponsoring house parties. Locally it has been successful both fiscally and in building a grassroots base. Nationwide it has resulted in 1000 people committed to monthly contributions. The NP's political strategy is to support progressive candidates in elections only if they have a concrete chance to "win". This has resulted in a winning ratio of 77 of 110 elections. Candidates must be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.
The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama.....
In July-August 1996 the Socialist Party celebrated Obama's Primary victory:
Secondly, the NP's '96 Political Program has been enormously successful with 3 of 4 endorsed candidates winning electoral primaries. All four candidates attended the NP membership meeting on April 11th to express their gra ude. Danny Davis, winner in the 7th Congressional District, invited NPers to join his Campaign Steering Committee. Patricia Martin, who won the race for Judge in 7th Subcircuit Court, explained that due to the NP she was able to network and get experienced advice from progressives like Davis. Barack Obama, victor in the 13th State Senate District, encouraged NPers to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration.
it is inconceivable that the American people would elect a socialist President. So, if this report is correct, something's got to give.
In June sources released information that during his campaign for the State Senate in Illinois, Barack Obama was endorsed by an organization known as the Chicago "New Party". The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards. ...
After allegations surfaced in early summer over the 'New Party's' endorsement of Obama, the Obama campaign along with the remnants of the New Party and Democratic Socialists of America claimed that Obama was never a member of either organization. The DSA and 'New Party' then systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and the Socialist Organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the DSA's New Party.
On Tuesday, those pajamas wearing bloggers discovered a web page that had been scrubbed from the New Party's website. The web page which was published in October 1996, was an internet newsletter update on that years congressional races. Although the web page was deleted from the New Party's website, the non-profit Internet Archive Organization had archived the page.
Here it is:
So the New Party claimed Obama as a member as of 1996. Progressive Populist magazine agreed in this editorial:
The Democratic Socialist Party of America was slightly more modest in claiming Senator Obama as an adherent:New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George's County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.
Still, it appears clear that as of 1996, the New Party and its parent organization the Democratic Socialists of America considered Barack Obama to be their guy--one of a handful of avowed socialists running for office at any level in the United States. It strikes me that Obama has some explaining to do...and not just about William Ayers which, I predict, will become more of a problem as well.
As Senator McCain has said time and time again, don't listen to the words coming out of Obama's mouth, look at his record, look at his history (what you can find of it), and look at who he hangs around with.
He's a socialist. I know there are people in this forum who lean way left -- probably even are socialists themselves -- who won't, either for partisanship or pride, admit this is a big ing problem for their man Barack. But, if this gets wide play, he's toast.
He's winning.
K
He's winning? The game doesn't start until 7:00 A.M. on November 4th.
That's all you can muster? Why reply at all?
My reply was fitting of your post.
How so?
Would you agree or not that Obama is a socialist?
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Okay, don't respond to the evidence. That's cool.
I think with the revelation that he was a card-carrying member of the DSA in 1996, William Ayers becomes the least of his worries.
Not that I bothered reading all that, but what's the big deal?
Then again, I'm a social democrat (at least once you get down to state level), so "socialist" doesn't bother me anyway. Socialist, and even "democrat socialist" covers a LARGE range of beliefs. Blanket terms are stupid.
Democratic Socialists of America is a specific party with specific ideals. Look 'em up. I'm also willing to bet William Ayers was a member. I wouldn't be surprised to hear they attended meetings to that club, together, as well.
What's so wrong about socialism, other than you don't agree with it's philosophy?
It doesn't work and has failed every where it's been tried.
Wasting time.
They are so hard for Obama they don't give a .
America wasn't ing meant for it.
Jesus Christ. If people want socialism, go find a ing boat.
I know their ideals. They happen to be closest to mine (of any party I've looked at ideals for) and at one time I considered signing up before I decided it was stupid for me to do since my ideals vary wildly based on which level of government we're talking about.
What you posted associated Obama with several different parties (the glance I took). Didn't look to see which it focused on. But my point was "Obama is a socialist". You're taking advantage of a blanket term that has an unjust negative connotation in order to stir up fear about Obama. That was my complaint.
I know but, it's fun seeing all the intelligent responses...oh, wait, that didn't happen either.
America.
Fool the weak into thinking they deserve/will get everything, let the government gain full power over everyone, force the few to pay for the many.
God Bless Amerika.
"government of the people, by the people, for the people"
If the majority want socialism, the US becomes socialist.
That is the ideal of America. Government determined by the people, serving the people in the capacity they desire.
The fact is that as recently as 1996 Senator Obama was an active member of the Chicago Democratic Socialist Party:
Well son, if he was a member back in 1996 I do declare he's a socialist! Any recent information Yoni? Or should we go back and see what John McCain was doing in 1996?
Apparently, he signed a contract with the DSA in 1996. A socialist political party. If I'm taking advantage of Obama's choice, so be it. Complain all you want.
Plus, taken in conjunction with all the radical, left-wing friends and associates he's had to throw under the bus at the eleventh hour, I'm beginning to think his own Democratic Party didn't vet him very well before making Barack their nominee.
Barack has the most liberal voting record in Congress, he's a radical, left-wing, socialist who was part and parcel to that culture. Now that he wants to be president, his history is rather inconvenient. Why? America doesn't want a socialist as its president.
This makes me absolutely sick.
Don't you understand!? Those who are paying for it are getting trumped by the government promising the masses they will take care of them.
Well, let's see, his political coming out party was thrown by a terrorist and he signed on the dotted line for the socialist party in 1996. I don't know when his association with the DSA ended. Maybe someone should ask him.
The he should be honest about it so the people can be well-informed.
The reason he isn't is because he knows the majority don't want a socialist as president. Otherwise, he'd be loud and proud about his past affiliation with the DSA.
Obama was a card carrying socialist back in the day. Do I need to tell you what the you can do as a card carrying socialist?
Socialist!!
That don't scare you? Fine, I didn't want to say this....
Obama went to Africa and bought some yellow cake. OK? The MF went to Africa and bought some yellow cake.
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