Starbucks Accused of Wasting Water

[Blake]

Ummmm...yeah...when you water certain kinds of grass at night, the water that is not used by the plant hangs around at the roots and causes them to mildew, which most kinds of grass don't respond very well to. The celestial heat ball you refer to (most of us call it the sun) helps to alleviate this problem.

But keep the silly, condescending answers coming. Some of them are occasionally mildly amusing.

oh brother.

Look, if you want a piece of trash pie, I'll be glad to serve it up, but if you read carefully, I was responding to the original smart ass remark to my comment.

There are zero types of grass types that I know of that are good to water at 3 in the afternoon.

For the grass types that need sun, the best times to water most yards is in the very early morning or very early evening when evaporation and wind is at it's lowest...........which is why there is a year round city code that prohibits watering with an irrigation system or sprinkler between the hours of 10am and 8pm.

I find many city ordinances to be mildly amusing as well, like the one that makes it illegal to spit off of the Tower of the Americas, but they are there for a reason and serve a purpose of sorts.

If you need some watering links, lemme know, I'll be glad to give you some.

If you need some more condescending posts, lemme know, I'll be glad to give you some.

sheez.

oh, and yes.....seeing a public course like Brack violate city code got me riled up.

[Bigzax]

i left the sprinkler on overnight by accident...

[purist]

specifcially to brackenridge golf course, i believe they were watering during the day when they were attempting to reestablish turf that had been replaced as part of their renovations. depending on the type of grass, some require watering at itnervals aroudn the clock in the early stages, i think. but generally, yes, watering in the middle of the afternoon is not recommended because it is inefficient due to evaporation. also, most likely brack had to gain some kind of variance to do this kind of watering.

[Blake]

specifcially to brackenridge golf course, i believe they were watering during the day when they were attempting to reestablish turf that had been replaced as part of their renovations. depending on the type of grass, some require watering at itnervals aroudn the clock in the early stages, i think. but generally, yes, watering in the middle of the afternoon is not recommended because it is inefficient due to evaporation. also, most likely brack had to gain some kind of variance to do this kind of watering.

ok, my curiosity got peaked so I called SAWS about it.

Turns out, if you use recycled water, you are exempt from the 10-8 watering restrictions. The guy said almost all the golf courses use recycled water and you can tell if it's recycled by the exposed purple piping.

I left a message for a planning rep at SAWS regarding if watering variances are granted or not...

[Buddy Holly]

Well after they wash the utensils they dont turn it off. It runs non-stop all day long and everyday. If the employees wants to turn off the water or turns off the water, they get in trouble.

Anyway, I think this dipping well bull needs to stop. Just turn it off!!

The companies with dipper wells doesnt use it as much as they waste it. They just let it run.

It has to continuously run because the utensils are into the water and without proper constant stimulation to the water, ie water being stagnant, the bacteria on said utensils and in said water grows very quickly. Do you not understand that?

[Creepn]

It has to continuously run because the utensils are into the water and without proper constant stimulation to the water, ie water being stagnant, the bacteria on said utensils and in said water grows very quickly. Do you not understand that?

So uh, thats the only way to keep the utensils clean? If that was the case then why dont every single business do that?

I don't run water constantly to keep my utensils clean at home. Neither did the restraunts I worked part-time as a busboy during HS.

Find a more efficient way to conserve water AND money I might add and turn that off.

[Blake]

specifcially to brackenridge golf course, i believe they were watering during the day when they were attempting to reestablish turf that had been replaced as part of their renovations. depending on the type of grass, some require watering at itnervals aroudn the clock in the early stages, i think. but generally, yes, watering in the middle of the afternoon is not recommended because it is inefficient due to evaporation. also, most likely brack had to gain some kind of variance to do this kind of watering.

FYI...got the call back from SAWS planning rep.....

she said that there is never an instance where anyone is ever granted a variance to water grass between the hours of 10am and 8pm.

The only exemption again is if you use recycled water......(which I really don't understand why that makes it ok........but it's still better than wasting fresh water....)

[Blake]

So uh, thats the only way to keep the utensils clean? If that was the case then why dont every single business do that?

I don't run water constantly to keep my utensils clean at home. Neither did the restraunts I worked part-time as a busboy during HS.

Find a more efficient way to conserve water AND money I might add and turn that off.

Have you ever worked at Starbucks? Well, me neither, but if (as has been mentioned already) Baskin Robbins does it with their scoopers, then I can see how they need to do it as well.

I've worked an ice cream scoop a long time ago for a while and you can't leave it sitting in a pool of stagnant water. The bacteria builds up very quickly.

And if you didn't leave the scoop(s) under a small stream of running water, then you would end up with a large pile of dirty ice cream scoops......to which would equal a large load you would have to wash later any way.

Of course, I'm sure when the author of the article wrote "Starbucks wastes 6 million gallons", he failed to take into account the hot water they would have to use later on to wash all of these dirty utensils instead of washing the 9 or 10 they end up with at the end of the night.

[Buddy Holly]

So uh, thats the only way to keep the utensils clean? If that was the case then why dont every single business do that?

I really really dislike aruing with people who are A) Just wrong and B)Not very adequate in the "how to write a sentence so it doesn't hurt the readers brain" department.

I don't run water constantly to keep my utensils clean at home. Neither did the restraunts I worked part-time as a busboy during HS.

Because, unlike your home or a restaurant, these utensils are constantly put into dairy products that are then served to the actual consumer. These places don't use them once every hour or half hour but on a fairly constant basis so a constant running water bath is what's needed. It's been going on for a lot longer than Starbucks has been around.

Find a more efficient way to conserve water AND money I might add and turn that off.

Yes, because businesses are so about not trying to save money any possible way. Don't you think if there were a more efficient and feasible way to keep the utensils free of bacteria, it would have been found by now?

[purist]

FYI...got the call back from SAWS planning rep.....

she said that there is never an instance where anyone is ever granted a variance to water grass between the hours of 10am and 8pm.

The only exemption again is if you use recycled water......(which I really don't understand why that makes it ok........but it's still better than wasting fresh water....)

That's because recycled water is not pumped from the aquifer. restrictions have to do with conserving and limiting withdrawals from the aquifer. recycled water is considered an alternative water source.

[Blake]

That's because recycled water is not pumped from the aquifer. restrictions have to do with conserving and limiting withdrawals from the aquifer. recycled water is considered an alternative water source.

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