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I seriously doubt that. Hillary is not a well-liked person. And she comes off as a little y on TV, IMO.
To the extent that this thread has turned into a discussion of his name, instead of Powell vs. Obama, I wish I wouldn't have put it in this le.
I seriously doubt that. Hillary is not a well-liked person. And she comes off as a little y on TV, IMO.
They (the posters you are trying to persuade) are bigots, don't even try.
Powell could beat any other American I can think of in a Presidential election.
Maybe 10 years ago when he could appeal to independents and some of the left to make up for not being able to rally the conservative base, but that presentation to the UN ensured he would get almost none of the first two groups' support. Powell made the case for going to war, and no one will ever forget that.
It's not racist against black people, it's racist against Arabs.
And the term "racist" when used as an adjective is not plural, so you should quit putting an "s" on the end when it doesn't belong. Thanks.
i still don't see how referring to someone's middle name as being racist, no "s".
does that make boutons a racist? "dubya"
Imagine that whottt conundrum.
The true test there would not be whether white evangelicals will or won't vote for a black liberal, since most of them won't vote for a white liberal either. The true test would be whether they would vote for a black conservative. Powell is no conservative.
I do think there is a percentage for whom it makes a real difference, but quantifying that is hard. All I can offer are anecdotes of individuals saying, "America isn't ready for a black President," or saying things like, "I'm focusing on how Biden will run the country, because that black guy won't last a week before he gets taken out." I don't remember anybody at my church talking about murdering John Kerry.
I can't wait to see what the Bradley Effect is going to be like on this election. I wonder if it will be shifted ahead a few days in the polls since people are now more aware of it after the media has started discussing it.
Man this is a good question!
First off, anyone who wants to know the true character of Powell should read Woodward's books. They are excellent and they point out exactly how Powell was basically the only voice of calm in an administration that wanted to go after Iraq from day one.
I think Powell would win. But man, I'm not sure. Powell always appealed to me because he doesn't want the power. Those are usually the kind of people that can actually lead very well.
I don't know though. That's a really interesting hypothetical.
Are you being serious? I never can tell with you.
Quite serious.
I think he's done. I don't think he'll serve if asked.
Probably not, but it couldn't hurt to ask. He might take the opportunity to rehab the country's foreign relations.
I don't expect him to endorse anyone, but I wonder what he would have done if the race had been closer.
Powell is one of the most bad azz Americans of the last twenty years. That said, if I'm going to knock McCain for being too old, Powell's gotta be just about the same age so I'd have to hold that against him. 2008 Powell versus 2008 Obama, it'd be tougher but I'd probably side with Obama for much of the same reasons why I'll likely vote for Obama over McCain.
1996 or 2000 Powell would be a different story.
Yeah, I didn't realize he was 71.
Consultant or special envoy would be the most that could be hoped for these days.
Holy , Powell is 71? He sure doesn't look it at all. I thought he was in his late 50s - early 60s.
Powell before Iraq would have been one of the best candidates in history at getting independent voters. Now however, he'd have no chance because he tried to cover Bush's ass.
I had no idea he was that old. Wow.
I am not going to go there about whether Southern Baptists would vote for an African American or not but I too was raised as a Southern Baptist and I do know the Evangelical vote within the GOP is why John McCain ended up being the nominee rather than Mitt Romney.
Also, I think Powell is pro-choice which would also cause him problems with the Dobson types. Heck, McCain is pro-life and Dobson still doesn't like him.
Back then, Powell would wipe the floor with Obama. Today, I think his rep is too scarred from any involvement with Bush Jr.
It's a damn shame, because that man was loved across the board.
I think I'm just jealous because the freakin Dems are going to have the first black president and it could've been the GOP. FUUUUUUUCK!!!!
I swear I hate GWB..
So...if we don't vote for Obama, it's because he's black? Interesting.
There's no doubt Powell is a great military mind. But I'm not sure he would wipe the floor with anyone. We really have no idea is he has any grasp on the economy. This isn't the 1950s when a popular general can just win the presidency on heroism alone.
Why does everyone assume Mr. Obama is an expert on the economy? Does he have a degree in economics?
Powell ed up because he hung out with Bush for a little too long. He quit too late. He will always be remembered as the idiot who claimed there are WMD in Iraq. His career is done.
what could he really say to Obama. Sad, he is probably scared to even go out of his house
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