The way I understand it, the bottom 15 or so teams don't have to contribute to the revenue sharing, but every team gets the same split. There was a fight a couple of years ago where some of the smaller teams wanted the top earning teams to put more money in than everyone else and get the same. I could be wrong, but I don't think that went through.
And a court decided that any team is allowed to do what Jerry did. It's for local stadium deals only, which is what I referred to earlier. The Nike deal was for apparel for anyone that wasn't a player or coach, so it wouldn't interfere with the Reebok deal for all the NFL teams. It has nothing to do with Cowboys logo gear, which as NFL branded merchandise, is split equally between the teams. Therefore, Jerry Jones gets the same amount when someone in San Antonio buys a Cowboys jersey or a Seattle Seahawks jersey.
San Antonio has had trouble selling out playoff games for the most successful franchise in sports over the last decade. Maybe chest-beating isn't what the city needs. Best case scenario, they won't get a team for the next ten years, and Jerry Jones may not even be around then to blame for things that he has nothing to do with.
So because the Spurs couldn't sell a few single seat tickets at the last minute the city should not get an NFL team? That doesn't follow. There are scant few teams in major league sports that can boast of absolute perfect attendance at all games. It's ridiculous to even consider that that's why San Antonio should not have an NFL team. But I do agree that the myth that Dallas' Jerry Jones is the real reason why San Antonio does not have a team currently is just that, a myth. At last check the Cowboys were the most profitable team in the league. A San Antonio based franchise wouldn't even put a dent in that.
I am not saying you're wrong because I am not sure I am right...I think we're both half right. hah
I am not 100% sure how it works but I am 100% certain the Cowboys and redskins have a unique revenue sharing structure. I believe they are locked into a minimum league contribution that pays more into the pool than anyone else but allows them to reap the biggest rewards. The risk is them having a down year sales wise but it doesn't matter because they would still have to pay a minimum percentage as if they were still a part of the revenue sharing agreement.
It was more than that, and yes, it means the NFL should be really wary about fan support before putting a team in the city that's might win ten games in its first four or five years. If San Antonio keeps up growth and management and can continue to find ways to attract higher paying jobs, then they are well on their way, but being unrealistic or being a blind optimist aren't helpful to the cause any more than whining about how it's Jerry's fault that the city doesn't already have a team.
ing Raiders or bust for myself. I wont support any other team here.
Yeah, It's frustrating because it's hard to find up-to-date information about it. I'm going mostly on memory supplemented by news reports that are several years old. If I find any current information whether or not the Cowboys make more money off the sale of their own merchandise than they do anyone else's, I'll post it up.
Thats exactly what I am going by. A conversation on the radio from about 5 years ago in Dallas. Guess the NFL wants to keep this pretty tight.
If you remember please post and I will do the same. I'm pretty interested in this now.
I just disagree that San Antonio, a city of over 2 million people, could not possibly fill up the Dome for 10 games a year. Man it's a no brainer and goes back to that inferior thinking I referred to earlier. With proper marketing and promotion filling the dome would be relatively easy. And it's hardly unrealistic or being blindly optimistic to think that San Antonio can do what other considerably smaller NFL markets are currently doing. You underestimate the wherewithal of the San Antonio football fan.
Can't blame you.
I honestly feel for Raider and Lions fans...passionate fan base that have seen their beloved franchise wrecked from every angle. To hear that Kiffin is still coaching over the phone is bizarre. Not saying Kiffin is a bad coach because nobody knows that...its just so weird and it never ends.
Crazy how it works...Raiders used to be one of the most hated franchises in sports and now everyone is kind of pulling for them. But the day they become good again, which will happen, they will be hated by everyone else again.
Good day for you though.....
San Antonio is not a city of 2 million (1.3 million, 2007 Census).
San Antonio is a very small media market due to the lack of suburbs. The city itself is larger than Dallas, but there's very little surrounding it relative to large markets.
San Antonio does not have a suitable facility for a modern NFL franchise. Franchises make a good deal of money off their stadia and the luxury boxes, and the Alamodome lacks both.
San Antonio's corporate base is small and unsophisticated. AT&T jumping ship doesn't help.
For all its recent growth, San Antonio is still a thin layer of richers atop a large number of blue collar folks.
You can call me a 'pessimist,' I prefer the term 'realist informed by how the NFL has jerked SA around for decades.'
That's the way I look at it. Once we win a Super Bowl(And we will before I die) It will be the greatest experience ever.Can't blame you.
I honestly feel for Raider and Lions fans...passionate fan base that have seen their beloved franchise wrecked from every angle. To hear that Kiffin is still coaching over the phone is bizarre. Not saying Kiffin is a bad coach because nobody knows that...its just so weird and it never ends.
Crazy how it works...Raiders used to be one of the most hated franchises in sports and now everyone is kind of pulling for them. But the day they become good again, which will happen, they will be hated by everyone else again.
Good day for you though.....
LOL. Training camp is already moving here next year, but you're dead right about everything else.If all San Antonians stopped watching Cowboys games, stopped buying Cowboy gear and just ignored that team existed, Jerry Jones wouldn't have a market to protect. Right now San Antonio pumps millions of dollars a year in JJ's pockets and he's right to not want to give that up without a fight.
Nah, Houston is a huge market. Much bigger and wealthier than San Antonio. San Antonio could build a state of the art facility but Jones would find a way to block the city from getting a team. He'll smile in front of the camera and pretend he supports San Antonio's dream ... and then turn around and stab San Antonio in the back behind the scenes.
If San Antonians got too mad, he'd placate them by moving training camp here to smooth things over. San Antonians fall for that trick every time
People get too emotionally invested in this topic.
Bottom line, San Antonio has a very slim to none chance of being awarded an expansion team.
The best bet, the only real way, for San Antonio is relocation, more specifically, a Clay Bennett type of relocation.
People need to stop saying San Antonio deserves a NFL team, it doesn't. Actually, no city deserves a sports team.
They're sports teams, either you have one or you don't. You don't deserve one, you're not en led to one.
At the same time, people need to stop saying San Antonio couldn't support one.
Though, let's get into some facts for a second.
At 2.1 million, the San Antonio metro area is larger than Jacksonville, Nashville, New Orleans, Charlotte, Buffalo.
In 2007, San Antonio was the 10th fastest growing metro area in the country. Not city, metro area. SA was third in city growth.
I am both surprised and impressed by this post. You pretty much nailed it.
HOLY DOG !!! Only steers and s come from San Antonio!!!
Is that you John Wayne, is this me?
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A very well researched and well put post. Thanks for the info.
Jerry Jones will never let San Antonio get a NFL team. I don't care what they say in the media SAT is a money maker for the Cowboys. We need to throw the boys out of the dome and stop rooting for the Texans. We need to go our own way and throw both of them out and if we don't get a NFL team there are other sports out there. We need to get our lips off their ass.
Actually I can't fathom the Cowboys doing anything to stop it. Texans would do it for them.They would be far more affected by it than the Cowboys.
San Antonio has the more Cowboy fans than Dallas has. If you ask someone in SAT who their favorite team is Cowboys is the first choice. In Dallas there is A large amount of people who moved their from other areas of the country with other NFL teams they follow.
It's a good thing Jerry Jones isn't the end all be all in the NFL.
He may scare you, but he doesn't scare me.
To be honest. I was surprised when I saw you had responded fairly quickly after me. I thought you had bashed what I posted and I thought I was going to have to defend what I said.I am both surprised and impressed by this post. You pretty much nailed it.
San Antonio has more Cowboy fans than Dallas? What?
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