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    Democrats only care about average citizens.

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    That's funny, because AIG was bailed out by the Treasury, not Congress...

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    That's funny, because AIG was bailed out by the Treasury, not Congress...

    You get my point, no?

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    Worse than Warren G. Harding would be pretty difficult, despite his short term. He was at least cognizant of his failures. His own words: "I am not fit for this office and should never have been here."

    What will be difficult in addressing with Bush's legacy is the magnitude of the events with which he dealt. This made his failings on multiple fronts all the more epic in the end, but does that make him the worst president? It will take some time to put it in context.

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    Harry Truman had a very low approval rating. But, IMO, he was one of the best presidents.

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    You get my point, no?
    No, I don't. If you speak about the bailout, it didn't pass on Democrat majority.
    Plus AIG was 'rescued' by a member of this administration before the bailout ever passed.

    Back to Bush and his administration, I think it will take time to put his administration in perspective. One of the things people will wonder is why, if he was so terrible, he managed to get reelected. And the democrats might be guilty of that for putting a terrible candidate in Kerry.

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    Back to Bush and his administration, I think it will take time to put his administration in perspective. One of the things people will wonder is why, if he was so terrible, he managed to get reelected. And the democrats might be guilty of that for putting a terrible candidate in Kerry.
    I think you have to differentiate between the Bush administration's ability to campaign, and their competence in governing. In terms of campaigning, the fact that he was able to win reelection is incredible. Kerry was probably not the best candidate to throw out there, but Republicans torpedoed him so effectively that you have to give them credit.

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    Worse than Warren G. Harding would be pretty difficult, despite his short term. He was at least cognizant of his failures. His own words: "I am not fit for this office and should never have been here."

    What will be difficult in addressing with Bush's legacy is the magnitude of the events with which he dealt. This made his failings on multiple fronts all the more epic in the end, but does that make him the worst president? It will take some time to put it in context.
    I agree.

    He could soon qualify for worst head of state of any country any time.

    Just wait until the financial meltdown is complete.

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    Worse than Warren G. Harding would be pretty difficult, despite his short term. He was at least cognizant of his failures. His own words: "I am not fit for this office and should never have been here."

    What will be difficult in addressing with Bush's legacy is the magnitude of the events with which he dealt. This made his failings on multiple fronts all the more epic in the end, but does that make him the worst president? It will take some time to put it in context.
    Warren Harding didn't lie this nation into an unnecessary and illegal war, so he gets the edge over Bush. About the worst thing that can be said about him is that he put the regulatory agencies in the hands of the very people that were supposed to be regulated.

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    Back to Bush and his administration, I think it will take time to put his administration in perspective. One of the things people will wonder is why, if he was so terrible, he managed to get reelected. And the democrats might be guilty of that for putting a terrible candidate in Kerry.

    Bush was a wartime in bent. That is a POWERFUL strength to have in a re-election bid, and he still barely won by the skin of his teeth. I'm not sure that any Democrat besides Hillary could've beaten him in 2004, and she was to cowardly to run against him then. Obama was a state senator at the time.

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    Warren Harding didn't lie this nation into an unnecessary and illegal war, so he gets the edge over Bush. About the worst thing that can be said about him is that he put the regulatory agencies in the hands of the very people that were supposed to be regulated.
    Are you talking about Harding or Bush?

    That's actually an interesting parallel between the two - cronyism.

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    I'd give it to Wilson or possibly Carter. I don't think Carter had his own hit squad like Wilson did. From this point on whoever can protect us from a terrorist attack for less than 7 1/2 years will be labeled the worst president in my eyes.

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    No, I don't. If you speak about the bailout, it didn't pass on Democrat majority.
    Plus AIG was 'rescued' by a member of this administration before the bailout ever passed.

    Back to Bush and his administration, I think it will take time to put his administration in perspective. One of the things people will wonder is why, if he was so terrible, he managed to get reelected. And the democrats might be guilty of that for putting a terrible candidate in Kerry.
    Um, Bush got re-elected because of single-issue voters who chose him because he pledged to make an amendment to the cons ution to ban gay marriage. Christians ed this country over again.

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    Bush was taking month long vacations prior to 9/11. I use to dislike him but now I just feel sorry for him. He just doesn't have the capacity to lead and we've all paid the price for it.
    I forgot about that. In his first term, Bush was the laziest president in the history of this country. All he did was go on vacation to the ranch in Crawford.

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    Nixon

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    Um, Bush got re-elected because of single-issue voters who chose him because he pledged to make an amendment to the cons ution to ban gay marriage. Christians ed this country over again.
    Its the dmes that let it be an issue in the first place. Notice how nobody's talked about gay marriage at all this year. If Kerry came out and said no legalized gay marriage while I'm in office. He might have got some votes

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    Its the dmes that let it be an issue in the first place. Notice how nobody's talked about gay marriage at all this year. If Kerry came out and said no legalized gay marriage while I'm in office. He might have got some votes
    The Dems aren't the party that hides behind the church to justify bigotry.

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    For all the things president Bush has done poorly, he has done even more right. Even if you disagree with that, he is very far away from being the worse president.

    Why are you liberals still worried about president Bush? Isn't it time to look forward, not back?

    Say what you will. I give you this. If Barack Husien Obaama is elected, he will take the number 1 worse president spot easily. I honestly believe history will show such a thing, but that won't be till at least a couple decades that history gets things right. It took more than three decades to exonerate McCarthy.

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    For all the things president Bush has done poorly, he has done even more right. Even if you disagree with that, he is very far away from being the worse president.

    Why are you liberals still worried about president Bush? Isn't it time to look forward not back?

    Say what you will. I give you this. If Barack Husien Obaama is elected, he will take the number 1 worse president spot easily. I honestly believe history will show such a thing, but that won't be till at least a couple decades that history gets things right. It took more than three decades to exonerate McCarthy.
    What exactly has Bush done right? And McCarthy? Are you ing serious? He was justified because that anorexic Ann Coulter said so?

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    No, I have to disagree. He was an able and competent President. His domestic policies were actually quite liberal by today's standards. His fault was using the federal machinery to screw his opponents. You could make a better case that he had the worst moral failings of all Presidents.

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    It took more than three decades to exonerate McCarthy.
    McCarthy was "exonarated" by Ann Coulter, right? nuff said.

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    The Dems aren't the party that hides behind the church to justify bigotry.
    And thats why they lose. Look at some of the dems that won seats for the Senate/House some actually leaned to the other side just a tad. The problem with the dems is that they are so far right they're off the ing map. And they alienate moderates.

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    You could make a better case that he had the worst moral failings of all Presidents.
    Clinton had that, I don't condone adultery with cows

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    Clinton had that, I don't condone adultery with cows
    You don't condone sex with anybody, under any conditions, apparently.

    But yeah, adultery = using the power of your office to persecute people. Real astute analysis there, sparky.

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    How many people would shed a tear if this er got assassinated?

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    I'd be interested, too, in knowing about the things that Bush got right that outweigh the extremely important things that he's screwed up. If there are so many of those things, surely a recitation of them won't be difficult for Wild Cobra to conjure (cue: "I'm not posting it because all of you libs will twist my words" rant).

    I'm also interested to know how McCarthy was exonerated for anything.

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