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  1. #51
    What a bunch of negative-minded losers. The posts on this thread lead me to actually believe that the members of this forum have a massive, collective inferiority complex. Even when the ing commissioner comes to town and validates that the city is on the map for a team eventually, nobody on this board buys into it. It's all Dallas this, and Jerry Jones that wah, wah, wah. Wakeup people! San Antonio is big and enough rich for a team.

    And for those of you that feel that San Antonio lacks the clout to support a team of its own just look at little Jacksonville or Buffalo or Green Bay or Nashville etc, etc. None of these towns are as rich and as big as San Antonio yet all have NFL teams. The bottom line here is that if you're raised to be small-minded and narrow-minded that's how you will always think. Unfortunately San Antonio is cursed to be riddled with people of this type of mentality. And the majority of replies on threads like this clearly reflect that mentality.
    Jerry Jones.

    Business Man.

    One of the most influential people in the NFL.

    Business Man.

    2+2.

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    San Antonio has the more Cowboy fans than Dallas has. If you ask someone in SAT who their favorite team is Cowboys is the first choice. In Dallas there is A large amount of people who moved their from other areas of the country with other NFL teams they follow.
    You're right...but the Texans have the territory issue. You would think it would hurt the Texans bottom line more than Dallas.

  3. #53
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    I just dont think San Antonio can financially support another sports team.
    The city may be growing but its growing because of all the teen pregnancies...that only tightens budgets. not too much extra cash to spend a few bills to watch a nfl game at the dome...

  4. #54
    I just dont think San Antonio can financially support another sports team.
    The city may be growing but its growing because of all the teen pregnancies...that only tightens budgets. not too much extra cash to spend a few bills to watch a nfl game at the dome...
    You're such a moron it's scary.

    FYI, teen pregnancies in San Antonio are DOWN, way down.

    Edit: Oops... this is one of Mouse's screen names. I should have known. Damnit, I've been had!

  5. #55
    I just dont think San Antonio can financially support another sports team.
    The city may be growing but its growing because of all the teen pregnancies...that only tightens budgets. not too much extra cash to spend a few bills to watch a nfl game at the dome...
    Wow. What an incredibly stupid post. San Antonio is growing because of teen pregnancies? Unbelievable. You don't suppose San Antonio's rapid growth has anything at all to do with the influx of military personnel and their families or in-state transplants and their families or out of state people along with their families do you? No that couldn't be it.

    San Antonio will get an NFL team within three years. And what's more she will get one before Los Angeles. As did Houston. IMO either the Chargers or Saints will move here eventually.

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    i highly doubt SA gets a team. For one, the city (metro area) is pretty low on disposable income. SA is a "poor" big city. Also, McNair and Jones won't let it happen.

    And good luck at getting the Saints or Chargers. That's never going to happen.

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    I have yet for anyone to explain who Jerry cares enough to bother blocking it. Nobody has submitted a single example of his bank account being affected by whether or not San Antonio has a team.

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    Goodell also dismissed the notion that Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Houston Texans owner Bob McNair would block any attempt to grant Texas a third team.

    “I don’t think they would,” Goodell said. “I think they recognize the great passion of the fans here.”

    I think Goodell feels the whole city of SA has the word SAP written all of our heads.

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    I have yet for anyone to explain who Jerry cares enough to bother blocking it. Nobody has submitted a single example of his bank account being affected by whether or not San Antonio has a team.
    Can you not just think about it for yourself? It's quite obvious.

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    Can you not just think about it for yourself? It's quite obvious.
    If it's so obvious, then you should have no problem explaining it to me.

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    If it's so obvious, then you should have no problem explaining it to me.
    Are you a child?

    Think about it. If Jerry Jones has a huge Cowboys fanbase down in San Antonio and the Cowboys have training camp there (except for this year), why would he want another team coming into SA and making their home there?

    It's not too hard to figure out.

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    Why would he care? He's got a contract to be there for the next four years. If there's a team in San Antonio today, the Cowboys still have training camp there.

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    Why would he care? He's got a contract to be there for the next four years. If there's a team in San Antonio today, the Cowboys still have training camp there.
    Do the Dolphins have training camp in Jacksonville?

    And why would he care? Well, because he is losing a medium-sized market basically. A new team in SA would take away a lot of the Cowboys market. Not to mention some in the Rio Grande Valley.

  14. #64
    romo is definitely a turn on for hispanics and latinos while jerry is a turn off.

    I think it's time for SA to have their NFL team. They could easily court the south texas, SA, and Mexican fanship.

    For everyone saying that SA isn't big enough. It isn't. But you are courting the hispanics of SA, mcallen, brownsville, border cities of mexico, laredo, and even el paso.

    Cowboys? Aren't they worth more than any other sports team on earth? I'm sure they can afford to lose the southern part of texas and part of mexico.

    Unless of course Jerry thinks that half of his money will be lost JUST because of the latino influence.

    As for Houston.....come on, aren't they one of the top 5 metros in the nation? I'm sure they can sustain themselves.

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    Do the Dolphins have training camp in Jacksonville?

    And why would he care? Well, because he is losing a medium-sized market basically. A new team in SA would take away a lot of the Cowboys market. Not to mention some in the Rio Grande Valley.
    The Rams have camp in Packerland, the Giants are somewhere upstate close to Buffalo. Aren't the Cowboys going to worry about that Oxnard fanbase when they come back to San Antonio? Answer: Not at all.

    You still haven't mentioned how, with the current revenue sharing deal, the bottom line of the Cowboys, whose market is essentially global, is damaged by San Antonio having a team.

  16. #66
    Certainly having a third NFL team in Texas would siphon away many of the fans of the current two teams in the state. That would be expected. But a team in San Antonio definitely would not do so much damage to the Cowboys or Texans as to make them so unsuccessful as to be financially insolvent or anything of that nature.

    Dallas and Houston are both in the top ten of revenue producing teams in league. With Dallas being number one and the Texans being number six. Having a team in San Antonio would not change that in any way I don't think. IMO San Antonio's team would have a negligible impact on the other two Texas teams financially in the both the short and long term.

  17. #67
    Why would he care? He's got a contract to be there for the next four years. If there's a team in San Antonio today, the Cowboys still have training camp there.
    There's a clause in that contract to allow for kicking the Cowboys out if SA gets a team, so that's not accurate.

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    Certainly having a third NFL team in Texas would siphon away many of the fans of the current two teams in the state. That would be expected. But a team in San Antonio definitely would not do so much damage to the Cowboys or Texans as to make them so unsuccessful as to be financially insolvent or anything of that nature.

    Dallas and Houston are both in the top ten of revenue producing teams in league. With Dallas being number one and the Texans being number six. Having a team in San Antonio would not change that in any way I don't think. IMO San Antonio's team would have a negligible impact on the other two Texas teams financially in the both the short and long term.
    Well said.

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    There's a clause in that contract to allow for kicking the Cowboys out if SA gets a team, so that's not accurate.
    Wow, I'm surprised San Antonio would think they had a chance at a team in the next four (?) years, but it's smart to have it there just in case. That gives Jerry Jones the first actual concrete reason to possibly block a San Antonio team, but it's not a very big reason.

  20. #70
    Wow. What an incredibly stupid post. San Antonio is growing because of teen pregnancies? Unbelievable. You don't suppose San Antonio's rapid growth has anything at all to do with the influx of military personnel and their families or in-state transplants and their families or out of state people along with their families do you? No that couldn't be it.

    San Antonio will get an NFL team within three years. And what's more she will get one before Los Angeles. As did Houston. IMO either the Chargers or Saints will move here eventually.
    bresilhac's meltdowns on this subject are highly entertaining. 2011, huh? I can see this becoming like one of those Adventist cults.

    2008: The NFL is coming in 2011!
    2011: I meant 2012!
    2012: My calculations were off... I meant 2020!
    2020: San Antonio actually did get a team in 2011, but it was invisible.

  21. #71
    bresilhac's meltdowns on this subject are highly entertaining. 2011, huh? I can see this becoming like one of those Adventist cults.

    2008: The NFL is coming in 2011!
    2011: I meant 2012!
    2012: My calculations were off... I meant 2020!
    2020: San Antonio actually did get a team in 2011, but it was invisible.
    Laugh it up stout. But I'll bet when a team finally begins play in the Dome you'll be the first fan in line for tickets.

  22. #72
    Laugh it up stout. But I'll bet when a team finally begins play in the Dome you'll be the first fan in line for tickets.
    Yes, I will ride to the ticket office on my unicorn.

  23. #73
    When you have a billion dollar stadium to pay off, tell me again how nice it would be to lose your second biggest market....

  24. #74
    Yes, I will ride to the ticket office on my unicorn.
    My belief that San Antonio will eventually get an NFL team may seem quixotic to you and others like you but that does not detract from the fact that San Antonio is NFL material. Why that's so tough to fathom for people like you I'll never understand.

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    When you have a billion dollar stadium to pay off, tell me again how nice it would be to lose your second biggest market....
    Tell me how that market in any way pays for the stadium, please. Does Jerry have a bucket out at training camp for contributions? Is he selling Pepsi and Nikes on the sidelines?

    I got one: Ticket revenue from preseason games in San Antonio. I'm not sure, but I'd bet that the teams don't have to share that. When you are sold out of regular season tickets for the next two years, you can't strong-arm the locals into buying exhibition tickets. Jerry could sell preseason tickets anywhere, but San Antonio is close, plus the team's already there, so overhead is low.

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