Nope.
If I remember correctly, only only rookies and second-year players can be assigned.
Thanks.
Hopefully they're the 14th and 15th players by the time Manu gets back. By the playoffs, the only players I want to have serious minutes are Tony, Hill, Manu, Mason, Finley, Hairston(him and Fin switching between the 12th and 13th man), Bruce, Ime, Tim, Ian, Bonner, Watkins, and KT. Not necesssarily in that order, of course.
Yep. Sometimes you have to make a gutsy move like that.
No way Vaughn is not on the roster.
I still like the pipe dream trade of Bonner and Vaughn for Nocioni. I'll throw in the rights to Splitter too just for kicks.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...96:4-788&cash=I still like the pipe dream trade of Bonner and Vaughn for Nocioni. I'll throw in the rights to Splitter too just for kicks
That's why I said Pipe dream trade, but like Moutainballer said a while ago if Nocioni were available the Spurs should be offering anyone outside of the big 4 to get him.
Whose the 4th, Bowen? I certainly don't consider him expendable, especially as a trading asset.
oh, i dont disagree. i was just saying that if tony went down, i wouldnt be surprised if pop threw hill out there in the starting role over vaughn.
No I'm with you. I'd go so far as to say I'd be shocked if Pop didn't throw Hill out there in that situation, but there's no way JV doesn't stay on this team as an insurance policy, so trying to free up his roster spot is futile. Udoka has a better chance of being moved than Vaughn does.
I wouldn't go as far, but I agree that Ime has a better chance to be traded, than usually estimated on this forum.
Ime has an attractive contract (small and expiring) and many teams could use his defense. not that I want him to be traded, but for sure he's not that hard to be replaced. he might find himself on the 5th spot of the wing rotation anyhow and this 5th man could also be a player like Hairston/Farmer/Salim. (if JV stays, I can't see Salim play the point. he would play just SG)
If it's a trade to free up roster spots for traning camp guys, Ime's more likely to go than Vaughn just due to value to the team and need. The only way Vaughn goes is if he's packaged with someone else and a point guard or someone that's just too good to pass up comes back. Potentially putting this season in Hill's hands is a gamble pop wouldn't make unless there was a big potential for a reward.
If Ime gets traded to free up roster space, it most likely won't be used to sign Stoudamire. They are thin enough at SF as it is.
And it's not likely that it would happen, which was my point about JV.
We can afford to lose Vaughn more than Ime due to the depth at the position. Neither will be traded unless it is a home run.
Tony Parker = depth?
Tony Parker can handle the ball
George Hill can handle the ball
Roger Mason can handle the ball
Manu when he returns can handle the ball
Many of the guys in camp can handle the ball
They all might do it with varying degrees of success, but there is more ball handlers than there are SF's.
+1
There are multiple combo/straight pg guards on the team, yet Ime is half of our sg's, too bad Pop let Gist go to Italy without even seeing how he handled in the preseason. I think that was a major up on Pops part, considering Tolliver is at best a Bonner replacement, while Gist could've been the athletic 3 everyone has been wishing for.
I am even more excited over Hill now. Now I want to see what he can do against other great PG's for an extended amount of time.
Small piece from Spurs.com on Hill.
Young Guys Get A Look
by Bill Schoening
There are differing philosophies among coaches when it comes to the NBA preseason. Some coaches want to get some wins to build some momentum and confidence in their clubs. The Spurs, however, pretty much know what they've got at the core; it's building the supporting cast that gets a lot of attention in October.
That's why unfamiliar names such as George Hill, Malik Hairston and Desmon Farmer are getting significant minutes in crunch time. Hill, the Spurs' first round draft choice out of tiny IUPUI, has shown promise. His long arms and lateral quickness helped produce five steals against Houston in the preseason opener. He aggressively challenged MVP runnerup Chris Paul on Friday night, hit a couple of three pointers, and raced across the floor to block a shot from the weak side.
The coaches like his calm demeanor. There is still much to learn as Hill is making a big jump from the Summit Conference and making the switch from off guard to the point, but he is making strides, and during this month of October, he'll likely have lots of opportunities (as will his fellow newcomers) to show what he can do.
George Hill is a shooting guard, doesn't know the Spurs' system, and is a rookie. We don't even know if he is an NBA player yet.
Roger Mason is a shooting guard and doesn't know the Spurs' system
Manu is a shooting guard and he's also injured for at least a month, maybe two.
Only one guy on the roster is a point guard if you get rid of Vaughn.
Finley and Bowen are both small forwards if you get rid of Ime.
2 > 1
Wrong. I said ball handlers. Not point guards. Finley is just as much of a sf as Mason is a ball handler so at worst it is 2-2, but even then there is way more ball handlers in camp than SF, so they could lose Vaughn and put in some one from camp. Who in camp can replace Ime?
Last edited by DPG21920; 10-14-2008 at 03:08 PM.
Your attempts to split hairs don't change the facts. Ball handler does not equal point guard. Parker and Vaughn are the only true point guards on the roster. Udoka, Finley and Bowen are all small forwards. Therefore, there's more depth at the small forward postion than there is at the point guard position. Pretending that shooting guards can adequately fill in running the point on an NBA team is just ignorant, and pretending that shooting guards who don't know the system can run the point for the Spurs is outright stupid.
OV is right. And I don't see a trade to free up space unless its Bonner, possibly.
Finley plays SF for the Spurs, I thought he started at shooting guard last year? Manu can run the point adequately and Mason did more than an adequate job last year for the Wizards.
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