Rockets at Celtics

**JamStone** · 10-13-2008

Look guys... basketball is not only a physical game but a mental one.

I have had some pussy moments too, and i can assure you that once guys see you won't do anything back, they'll push it, you have to stand your ground, i can't stress that enough.

No one is asking tmac to get physical, but he needs to get into that guy's face and tell him that its not ok.

You have to remember, its not just Eddie House, the entire Celtics and Rockets team saw what House did.....how would you think they would feel if tmac just stood there and took it? You think it would assure the rockets of the kind of leader tmac is? Don't you think the celts would gain confidence like that?

Lets get one thing straight though, we are not asking tmac to punch him in the face or anything but if you honestly feel he should have gone Dirk...i'm speechless. Look at the white dude in my sig, if tmac didn't do anything he would turn into that guy in a couple of yrs.

Slapping Eddie House's hand off his face is fine. Cursing Eddie House is fine. Saying " you, scrub" to Eddie House is fine.

To me, it was pretty apparent that Tracy McGrady was about to get physical on Eddie House. That's all I've been criticizing. I didn't say he just had to stand there and do nothing. By all means, let him talk back. But, T-Mac went aggressively towards House and wanted to throw down. That is where I'm criticizing him for being stupid.

If I were T-Mac and was that important to my team, first I'd move my face away so his hand is off it, yell, "You're a ing nobody, you clown! You're nothing." Then laugh and walk away. Why get in a fight with a scrub? There's absolutely no reason to. And, that's what I've been talking about this whole time specifically, what appeared to be T-Mac wanting to fight.

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

You're right, he definately should've beat the out of House (which he probably would've had a hard time doing that anyways, since he had problems with Bobby Jackson) and got a 15 game suspension causing his team to miss the playoffs.That would be the only thing worse than his usual 1st round exits.

after the bobby jackson thing he hasn't gotten suspended, heck not even an altercation but you might recognize this guy since you speak of 1st round exits...

or maybe even this guy...

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by JamStone

Slapping Eddie House's hand off his face is fine. Cursing Eddie House is fine. Saying " you, scrub" to Eddie House is fine.

To me, it was pretty apparent that Tracy McGrady was about to get physical on Eddie House. That's all I've been criticizing. I didn't say he just had to stand there and do nothing. By all means, let him talk back. But, T-Mac went aggressively towards House and wanted to throw down. That is where I'm criticizing him for being stupid.

If I were T-Mac and was that important to my team, first I'd move my face away so his hand is off it, yell, "You're a ing nobody, you clown! You're nothing." Then laugh and walk away. Why get in a fight with a scrub? There's absolutely no reason to. And, that's what I've been talking about this whole time specifically, what appeared to be T-Mac wanting to fight.

i agree 100%, at least we got to the point where we can agree that you can't just sit there and not do anything.

I don't know what tmac was going to do but i can assure you he wasn't going to kick his ass

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

That's relevant to the thread. Do you have enough time to post Tracy McGrady's postseason success?

Oh right, it's in your sig.

**The Franchise** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

By not responding with an adequate answer, you're basically saying I'm right. thanks.

Go play with yourself clown.

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

That's relevant to the thread. Do you have enough time to post Tracy McGrady's postseason success?

Oh right, it's in your sig.

yesh....he avgs 28 ppg. At least he hasn't had the pleasure of winning 67 games and losing to an 8 seed

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by The Franchise

I'm a who thinks just because a player is on my team, whatever he did was right. No matter how stupid it is to get into a fight with Eddie House.

**IronMexican** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by sook

yesh....he avgs 28 ppg and has never been in a top 4 seed team going to the playoffs.

He was in 2007.

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by sook

yesh....he avgs 28 ppg and has never been in a top 4 seed team going to the playoffs.

Dirk's career postseason stats aren't too bad either.

He hasn't quite blown as many 2 game leads though.

**JamStone** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by lakaluva

You say the JJ Stokes situation doesnt apply, but would YOU let someone spit in your face and YOU do nothing??? I doubt you would walk away, or atleast I hope you wouldnt. But even still, a spit in the face is just as bad as being pushed in the face, and I would respond with more than walking away. I dont care if its the le game... no one is going to say, "Damn, if Tmac hadnt responed to that guy hitting him in the face, we would have won."

Also, your analogy of Lebron and Tmac is unrealistic. Players arent plotting on getting other players suspended. No offense, but you sound like a Suns fan right now.

I didn't say I would do nothing. But, that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't apply to this case because no one spit on anyone else. You're changing the scenario to get the respond you want to read. It doesn't work that way. , you might as well have said, if someone cut off T-Mac's arm with a machete, should he have not done anything?

Your analogy doesn't apply, period. He touched his face. Slap his hand away and say you and walk away. It wasn't a spit. It wasn't a punch. It wasn't a kick. It wasn't even a shove. It was a touch on his face. Stop changing the situation so you can try to get the response you're looking for.

And, I'm not saying LeBron and T-Mac would be trying to get each other suspended. But, you have to be aware of . If LeBron got in it with T-Mac, then you can realize it's a situation where it won't hurt your team as much. That's being aware. And, players do try to bait superstar players. It happened quite a bit with LeBron against the Wizards last playoffs.

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by IronMexican

He was in 2007.

they had homecourt but i believe utah was the 4th seed b.c they were division leaders.

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by sook

yesh....he avgs 28 ppg. At least he hasn't had the pleasure of winning 67 games and losing to an 8 seed

sow how many playoff series has T-Mac won? Didn't he beat Detroit that one year? Last I checked they were up 3-1.

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

Dirk's career postseason stats aren't too bad either.

He hasn't quite blown as many 2 game leads though.

what...losing a 2 game lead!?!?!? Of course thats worse then giving way to the biggest upset in NBA history.

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

sow how many playoff series has T-Mac won? Didn't he beat Detroit that one year? Last I checked they were up 3-1.

No, he didn't play dallas, thats the only time an 8 seed could ever beat a 1st

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by sook

what...losing a 2 game lead!?!?!? Of course thats worse then giving way to the biggest upset in NBA history.

so basically you're saying T-Mac's playoff resume looks better than Dirk's?

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by sook

No, he didn't play dallas, thats the only time an 8 seed could ever beat a 1st

lol, 3-1 lead

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

so basically you're saying T-Mac's playoff resume looks better than Dirk's?

Do you choose to infer that, because you already know the answer.

**dirk4mvp** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by sook

Do you choose to infer that, because you already know the answer.

yes or no....

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

yes or no....

did you ever read anywhere in my post, that tmac had a better playoff resume than dirk?

**sook** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

lol, 3-1 lead

and a 1 man 8seed team is supposed to have a 3-1 lead of one of the most solid 2K teams?? If you actually saw the series you wouldn't even bring that up noob.