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I dont have any problem keeping Farmer, but this isnt the D-League. Dont you think there might be a reason why he has only played a handful of NBA games?
I think after last nights performance its a no brainer we keep desmon farmer on the roster for the remaining season. Somebody please do your research and you will see this guy is a scoring machine! All time leading scorer for the d league who put up 40 several times this year. Hes exactly what we need to compensate for ginoblis 20 a game
I dont have any problem keeping Farmer, but this isnt the D-League. Dont you think there might be a reason why he has only played a handful of NBA games?
are you desmon farmer?
Welcome.
Farmer is a scorer, who has gotten better every season and is still young. But the question is not what he can he do (score), but what has kept him off an NBA roster for the last 3 seasons?
There are people on this board who could answer that question, but I'm not one of them. I only know enough to know that I want to know more.
umm d-league numbers?
oh BTW welcome
Funny you said that...I thought the exact same thing.
Who did he play for last night?
BTW, whose spot do we give him?
Roger Mason is already running some point; Hill belongs. I'd suspect that if Farmer were to impress to the point of deserving a spot, the Spurs would buy out Vaughn, and maybe make him a "special assistant" or some such.
Going into a season with Parker and three shooting guards who don't know the system as your point guard rotation is just insane. I can't imagine Pop would do that.
Point taken. But I think Pop would do it. His G. Hill crush is already pushing the boundaries of man-love. This, of course, is assuming a remarkable preseason campaign by Farmer (or Hairston). I'm not banking on that, so take what I'm saying lightly.
A point in Farmer's favor is that the Spurs clearly want more back court scoring this season, especially in light of Manu's injury. That seems like their top off season priority. Had Manu not been injured, I'd guess they'd have still gone in this direction.
Farmer can score. Vaughn, not so much.
His G. Hill crush is already pushing the boundaries of man-love
Loved him so much he didn't play him an entire half in a meaningless preseason game in Houston.
Also, Vaughn isn't going anywhere, so forget about it.
I agree. Keep Desmon and also Salim, and then buy out Jaque Vaughn. There's absolutley no chance those moves would back fire, NO CHANCE.
He's a really good athlete, I like his game. I say Keep him. Without Ginobili there's going to be playing time spread around for everyone at 2-guard.
Well most of what I've read is he's a good athlete that can shoot the three and drive to the rack. Which is why I thought he'd be the best guy to get to fill in at the start of the season. I also read the drawback is that he's not a team player. That I'm not too worried about for now as we need the scoring ability.
Now within the last week I read on another board that he's not very athletic and too short. Was that person smoking something that said that? Which is it?
If Farmer plays oustanding, he might make the Toros roster. Those are his realistic chances with this team. The Spurs are simply not going to buy out Vaughn. Not gonna happen.
Farmer is not an NBA-caliber player and has basically no chance of making this team, never mind playing meaningful minutes in a contested game in lieu of Ginobili. Forget it.
Early on I thought he might be playing for his roster spot. But I tend to agree that Vaughn's roster spot is pretty much assured at this point. He might not be the backup at the beginning of the season, but hes not getting cut loose. Hes actually a really solid insurance plan. Hes neither the sexy nor trendy pick, but hes dependable and cheap. As promising as Hill has looked in preseason so far hes still very definitely largely an unknown. Meanwhile, Vaughn is a known quan y with 2 years experience on the team. Hence: Vaughn's not going anywhere.
Hardly anyone is a team player in the D-League because they all want to get noticed but I understand all the points you're trying to make.
One would think Pop's nutsack is full of peach ice cream the way you can't keep your mouth off it.
bout as right as can be
I want to take some issue with the idea of Vaughn as an insurance policy.
First, long gone are the days when Tony Parker would vanish in crucial moments and we would have to sub in a seasoned veteran. Now, Tony Parker IS the veteran and is actually quite reliable. Given that, with Tony being a very low risk of not contributing, there is very little reward in having as his backup a player that is guaranteed to give you almost nothing except not spread cancer.
Defensively, Hill already seems to be better than him. Both have issues offensively, but Hill has WAY more upside on the offensive end. And both players have extraordinary character, at least from what we've read. Given that, I think we can live without Vaughn's fake no look passes as he barrels down the lane.
But what if Tony gets injured? That's a real concern, as it is with every star. But we're already up against the wall a bit with all our veterans aging before our eyes. Not only does Hill need to get burn, which he probably will, we need to also develop another younger guard, such as Salim, or possibly Hairston or Farmer if they continue to show potential.
Vaughn does bring veteran leadership but on a team this stacked with veteran leadership we have enough for all of the weak Eastern Conference.
And not to mention that Mason has spent a good time already playing point guard. Mason as a stand by 3rd string point guard is an excellent backup.
But Vaughn knows the system better. I understand the rationale behind that but when teams slack off him and pretty much force him into taking open jumpers that he bricks, to me, that's not really helping the offensive system.
I just don't see that much reward for sticking with Vaughn when we'd be losing out on the potential for fitting a better younger player into the rotation.
Sometimes you have to fix something before it absolutely breaks. Hey, just my opinion. I'm sure others will disagree.
Another nice looking performance last night. Is anybody other than me convinced yet that Farmer will be an assett to the team?
I am. I watched the game on AT&T U-Verse.
How wonderfully mature and adult a response.
But doesn't make the point any less valid.
Besides being a scoring machine, I'm wondering what else does he bring to the table?
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