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They'll get jobs with Fox and Clear Channel.
Get used to it - this is what happens when you dare to question "The One". Just think what will happen to any dissenters if he's elected!
They'll get jobs with Fox and Clear Channel.
Nah. Fox is just about on board, now. Did you not catch the post-debate discussion?
Oh, and after the Fairness Doctrine is passed, Clear Channel will cease to exist.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the mean annual wage for plumbers, pipefitters and steamfitters in the United States in 2007 was $47,350.
What, they thought Obama won the debate? Some things just can't be denied unless whottt starts a cable news company.
It will be bigger than ever no matter what.Oh, and after the Fairness Doctrine is passed, Clear Channel will cease to exist.
Hey, I don't mind the scrutiny. Does it really matter that I'm a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who"s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating"s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years. I'm just saying.
no plumbers license? he has a tax lien against him? so, he could be an out of work hairdresser. WC, was he planted by a certain party?
I'm no plant. Just your average joe.
you should at least be able to spin your way out of that lien.
good luck, joe.
What's funny is that if this was the other way around and the guy was a liberal speaking out against the convervs, he would be in a lot bigger trouble right now. He'd already be scheduled for The Bill O'reilly show, so he could call him " A communist, jew, who probably urinates on the American Flag!"... "Let me finish, let me finish, I'm not finished! Now get the F off my show you hippie!"
I like Bob the Builder myself.
Bob The Builder doesn't even have a contractors license, and he pays Muck under the table.
Warren Buffet has talked numerous times about the inequity that results when he pays a lower effective tax rate (17%) than his secretary. If one accepts that his premise is essentially true, Obama's policies aren't "redistribution of wealth" but basically creating a more flat, and thus fair tax system.
39 vs., what do you pay, 15 - maybe?
"Slightly" Higher!!!
People in this thread and in the general public pay WAY, WAY too much attention to the absolute levels of marginal tax rates for ordinary income.
When you sort through the zoo of deductions, credits, loopholes, exemptions, tax avoidance opportunities, AMT, etc, you arrive at a final effective tax rate, which is in reality the true metric we should be looking at here.
The fact is that most high-net worth individuals derive the majority of their income from dividends and capital gains so an increase in the marginal tax rate of ordinary income in excess of $250,000 from 35 to 39.6% is not going to have near the impact that many seem to believe on their effective tax rate.
Dividends and Capital Gains have always been taxed lower than ordinary income and after the Bush tax cuts are at very low historical levels. If you are making 70% of your annual income from capital gains/dividends taxed at 15%, how impactful is a increase from 35 to 39.6% on ordinary income over $250 K? Not very, quite honestly.
It's completely disingenuous for you to suggest that 39 vs. 15 is what this boiling down to.
Of course the key to this is all is simplifying the ridiculous tax code the US has so it can actually be transparent whether what we truly have is a regressive, flat, or progressive tax system. As complicated as the code is right now, you could do to 10 different tax professionals right now and not get anything close to a general consensus on if we are by and large regressive or progressive.
Last edited by bobbyjoe; 10-16-2008 at 06:28 PM.
The guy could make a million dollars a year for all I care, that has nothing to do with Obama's answer to his question.
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