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He's also an Arab.
for Obama if this is true. For the love of God, this can't be true.
http://www.bornalivetruth.com/jillstory.aspx
He's also an Arab.
there's no record of that.
It has to be true. They couldn't say it on the internets if it wasn't.
Don't worry. As soon as the republicans finally gain control over all three branches of government they'll overturn Roe v. Wade.
He's also a dirty ###### with Anti-American views, Muslim, an Arab, and a Marxist. How stupid are you?
What the do you think?
Didn't they talk about this in the debate on Wednesday? He voted no because there was already a law in place?
McCain's gotta be desperate if they're going with this smear. W. never had to resort to these kinds of attacks against Kerry.
Also, it should be noted, "partial-birth abortion" is not a medically recognized term by the American Medical Association. This is just ing stupid. How ing gullible are people to believe this garbage?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200808210078
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...xtreme-is.html
The pro-life movement's darling - and Obama's nemesis - just published a new piece. It's le:
Michael J. Fox Is A Cannibal.
Just so you know where she's coming from.
Correct. But don't confuse people with the facts
so what are the facts Kori?Correct. But don't confuse people with the facts
these are the facts according to the website:
please correct them Kori since you obviously know all about this situation.As an Illinois State Senator, Barack Obama opposed the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act. The legislation defined any infant born alive as a "person” who deserves full legal protection.
The Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act was modeled after the federal version, with the identical definition of “born alive.” The World Health Organization created this definition in 1950. The United Nations adopted it in 1955.
Obama actively opposed the legislation in the Illinois State Senate. In 2001, he voted no in committee, spoke against it on the Senate floor, and voted present on the floor. In 2002, he voted no in committee, spoke against it on the Senate floor, and voted no on the floor. Obama was the sole senator to ever speak against it on the Senate floor.
The U.S. Senate passed the federal bill unanimously, with Senators Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy speaking in support of it.
The pro-abortion group NARAL expressed neutrality on the federal bill. On August 5, 2002, President George W. Bush signed it into law.
For four years Obama has said he would have supported the federal version, but that simply isn’t true. In 2003, as chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee, Obama voted yes on an amendment that made the Illinois version identical to the federal one. However, he then voted no on the amended bill.
(Note the first vote under “DP#1” or “Do Pass Amendment #1” was to allow the amendment to be added, making this bill identical to the federal Born Alive bill. The second vote under “DPA” or “Do Pass as Amended” was on the bill as amended. Obama voted to amend the bill and then voted against the amended bill.)
View the Republican State Senate Staff analysis here.
Click here to see a comparison of the final federal version of Born Alive and the 2003 IL version Obama opposed.
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so trash Jill what's her name is the defense. Should my defense be to then trash Media Matters.
Yes, this person is certainly an unbiased source of information. A doctor can't refuse to treat a fetus that survives a D@E. You do know that "Partial Birth Abortion" isn't a medically-recognized term, right? You do realize that a woman whose water breaks can't throw up her hands and say " this, I'm not having this baby?" Why do you think a D&E is performed? Under what cir stances do you think a D%E is performed?
Her allegations are about as truthful as the ones that say Obama is a secret terrorist Muslim. It's amazing the garbage people fall for.
Do you even know what a ing D@E is and WHY they are performed? Do you honestly ing think a woman can get a doctor to sign off on an abortion after her water breaks because she doesn't want to raise a child? Use your ing brain.
There was a law in place in Illinois covering the same thing already.
Doctors are already bound by the AMA to treat a fetus that survives the procedure.
And for the record, I'm pro-life - one of the reasons I'm not voting for Obama. Just to throw that out there.
why was there a federal and state act? what was Obama's voting record? You're right that my only source of his voting record is this site. Please set the record straight on his voting record or is trashing and deflecting enough for you.
Because people essentially think this procedure is "icky."
Kori already answered your ? but I'll reiterate her point: There was already a law on the books covering this, and under the ing Hippocratic Oath, a doctor can't refuse treatment for a fetus that survives it.what was Obama's voting record?
I suggest you do some more research.You're right that my only source of his voting record is this site.
Talk radio is where you can get the REAL news..
so a bill to clarify that a fetus that survives an abortion is classified as a person with equal protection is somehow not necessary? Why vote against the bill? Why are two laws saying the same thing a bad thing? That doesn't pass the common sense test.
It would make life so much better to get rid of those hate mongers.
They're not saying the same thing...there'd be no need to introduce legislation that duplicates the exact language of previously enacted language, which is the only way they would "say the same thing." I've worked for the Texas Legislative Council in Austin, which is basically the Texas House of Representative's law firm. I can assure you that a single word can vastly change the meaning of a law or statute. You really don't seem to understand the legislative process at all.
Nothing that woman wrote passes the common sense test.That doesn't pass the common sense test
Obviously he voted against it so he could harvest the newborn babies and drink their blood. He wants to put it on matzah...wait....that's jews. Maybe he wants to sacrifice them to his gods. Wait, Islam only has one god right?
I just get real upset by these smears. On the one hand, it's got to be a mark of desperation that the McCain camp is resorting to abortion smears. GWB never had to stoop to this against Kerry, since that election was basically a referendum on the Iraq War and it was a slightly winning issue for him. On the other hand, I am scared that this kind of garbage could work. There's too much at stake for low-information voters to be swayed by lowest common denominator crap.
This is too low/desperate/idiotic, even for dead-in-the-water Republicans
so how did the new bill change the meaning of the law or statute? Plus, did he vote against ammending the existing law?
your first instinct was to trash her, so your test holds no water.Nothing that woman wrote passes the common sense test.
What is this dude's stance on abortion?
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