Palin: "I Love Visiting "Pro-America" Areas

[baseline bum]

Biggest load of crap ever...if they don't clearly mark themselves as an enemy army, the Geneva Convention isn't supposed to apply to them. Revisionism at it's finest...

If they want to mark themselves clearly as enemy combatants so we can exterminate them I am all for the survivors getting the protections of the Geneva Convention...

If they want to masquerade as civilians, deliberately putting true civilians at risk, and in some cases directly targeting them...I am for inflicting as much pain and suffering upon them as is humanly possible, and then executing them.


I am in favor of video taping it just so they'll know exactly what happens to enemy combatants that refuse to clearly mark themselves.


The Geneva Convention was never intended to protect spies or guerillas. It was meant to protect those that fight according to a certain set of rules.

You should be a lobbyist the way you spin every single thing you say in this forum. If you advocate torturing others, then you advocate your own being tortured by others. I doubt you think McCain being tortured was justified, and I hope no one here does either.

[ChumpDumper]

Geneva sucker!

[whottt]

You should be a lobbyist the way you spin every single thing you say in this forum. If you advocate torturing others, then you advocate your own being tortured by others. I doubt you think McCain being tortured was justified, and I hope no one here does either.

Um...McCain was clearly marked as an enemy combatant and he was an official party of the conflict.

I didn't spin anything...

Article 4 of the Geneva Convention:

A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:

1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.

2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:

(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;

(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;

(c) That of carrying arms openly;

(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

3. Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.

4. Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an iden y card similar to the annexed model.

5. Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law.

6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.

B. The following shall likewise be treated as prisoners of war under the present Convention:

1. Persons belonging, or having belonged, to the armed forces of the occupied country, if the occupying Power considers it necessary by reason of such allegiance to intern them, even though it has originally liberated them while hostilities were going on outside the territory it occupies, in particular where such persons have made an unsuccessful attempt to rejoin the armed forces to which they belong and which are engaged in combat, or where they fail to comply with a summons made to them with a view to internment.

2. The persons belonging to one of the categories enumerated in the present Article, who have been received by neutral or non-belligerent Powers on their territory and whom these Powers are required to intern under international law, without prejudice to any more favourable treatment which these Powers may choose to give and with the exception of Articles 8, 10, 15, 30, fifth paragraph, 58-67, 92, 126 and, where diplomatic relations exist between the Parties to the conflict and the neutral or non-belligerent Power concerned, those Articles concerning the Protecting Power. Where such diplomatic relations exist, the Parties to a conflict on whom these persons depend shall be allowed to perform towards them the functions of a Protecting Power as provided in the present Convention, without prejudice to the functions which these Parties normally exercise in conformity with diplomatic and consular usage and treaties.

C. This Article shall in no way affect the status of medical personnel and chaplains as provided for in Article 33 of the present Convention.

PS: John McCain was

A. A member of an official party to the conflict.

B. Clearly marked as an enemy combatant by the plane and uniform he was wearing.

[whottt]

BTW, if you actually want to know why the Iraq War isn't an illegal occupation...be sure to let me know. You might be surprised to find out the truth.

[Purple & Gold]

whottt never ceases to amaze me. As a democrat and a veteran the Geneva Convention must always be followed under all cir stances. Whether they dressed as civilians or not it doesn't matter. Once they are captured they become POW's, whether the Bush Administration believes it or not. Denouncing protection under the Geneva Convention over technicalities is dangerous and puts American soldiers lives at risk. Something I am glad McCain agrees with Democrats in. Good to see that this bull torture of "enemy combatants" will be put to an end no matter who wins this election.

[Purple & Gold]

BTW, if you actually want to know why the Iraq War isn't an illegal occupation...be sure to let me know. You might be surprised to find out the truth.

Yes they broke the treaty so the war is not illegal. What's illegal is the fact that they lied to the public to sell their war. WMD's ring a bell??

[whottt]

whottt never ceases to amaze me. As a democrat and a veteran the Geneva Convention must always be followed under all cir stances. Whether they dressed as civilians or not it doesn't matter.

The it doesn't.

Once they are captured they become POW's, whether the Bush Administration believes it or not. Denouncing protection under the Geneva Convention over technicalities is dangerous and puts American soldiers lives at risk.

yeah because the Fundamentalists won't behead them otherwise

Something I am glad McCain agrees with Democrats in. Good to see that this bull torture of "enemy combatants" will be put to an end no matter who wins this election.

It's not going to be put to an end...it'll just be American troops completely adhering to the tenets of the Geneva Convention that are being tortured and murdered then...


And you? You'll be silent about it.

[Purple & Gold]

Basically means she likes areas that are low on Democrats. Just in case you need it explained.

Democrats = Anti-American, whether they realize it, or not.

you need more mushrooms

[ChumpDumper]

Two wrongs make a whottt.

[whottt]

Yes they broke the treaty so the war is not illegal.

The US had no treaty with the Iraqis.

What's illegal is the fact that they lied to the public to sell their war. WMD's ring a bell??

Would you like me to show you a list of the politicians claiming Saddam had WMD before Bush was even in office?

[Purple & Gold]

The it doesn't.

Yes it should you non serving ass.

yeah because the Fundamentalists won't behead them otherwise

If you think the United States only has 1 enemy or will never get in any other wars in the future then you're an idiot.

It's not going to be put to an end...it'll just be American troops completely adhering to the tenets of the Geneva Convention that are being tortured and murdered then...


And you? You'll be silent about it.

We are better than other countries when we take the high road and don't need to stoop to their level. The Geneva Convention must always be followed. BTW I fought for my country and my actions are louder than any empty words you have. What have you done to prove how American you are whottt?

[Purple & Gold]

The US had no treaty with the Iraqis.

Actually their was a treaty about having to let inspectors have full view of their Nuclear program.

Would you like me to show you a list of the politicians claiming Saddam had WMD before Bush was even in office?

I remember Colin Powell in front of the UN. I saw it on T.V. Microfilm and phone taps and all. So again where are the WMD's that the Bush Administration knew so much about.

[Purple & Gold]

Two wrongs make a whottt.

Exactly what it comes down to. Well they aren't following it!!! So we don't have to.

Give me a ing break. This puts American soldiers at risk in all future wars.



Does whottt care so little about American soldiers??

[Ya Vez]

maybe she is talking about that area that mr. murtha called the racist part of Pennsylvania I mean talk about just flat out lying.... maybe it's the constant drum beat from the left that if you criticize lord obama.. you will dubbed a racist or be destroyed in the media... I mean they went so far as to call bill clinton a racist...

[Purple & Gold]

maybe she is talking about that area that mr. murtha called the racist part of Pennsylvania I mean talk about just flat out lying.... maybe it's the constant drum beat from the left that if you criticize lord obama.. you will dubbed a racist or be destroyed in the media... I mean they went so far as to call bill clinton a racist...

Many people voting for Obama are more voting pro Democrats and anti-Republican than anything. Not everybody is an Obama nuthugger.

[Purple & Gold]

And it was news to me that Democrats and liberals don't serve in the military. Or that states like Cali and New York don't have veterans. Very insightful.

[whottt]

If you think the United States only has 1 enemy or will never get in any other wars in the future then you're an idiot.

I doubt we'll ever get into a major extended conventional war again...because thanks to stupid ing idiots like yourself...Guerilla Warfare is the way to beat us.


You don't give a ing about what the other guys do...

You don't give a about beating Isamic Fundamentalist..and you are too ing stupid to understand how to do it.

We are better than other countries when we take the high road and don't need to stoop to their level.

What ing arrogance...you mean like we were better than the Vietkong?

You mean like the British were better than the American Revolutionaries?

You mean like the Soviet Army was better than the Mujahadeen?

Stupid arrogant ass.

The Geneva Convention must always be followed.

You render the Geneva Convention meaningless when you apply to anyone.

And BTW stupid ...Article 4 clearly defines what a POW is...

Get your stupid ing head out of your stupid ing ass and read it...the entire section I posted is about POW's...

And nowhere in it is your interpretation backed up.

BTW I fought for my country and my actions are louder than any empty words you have.

And you fight against now...Benedict Arnold fought for his country too...

What have you done to prove how American you are whottt?

I support it, in a time of war. Unlike you who supports those that fight against it...whole heartedly.

[Ya Vez]

all I can say is .. I am glad I don't live in LA anymore... you have the very wealth libs.. glad they will finally have to pay up under obama... I am sure they are a bit pensive about paying more in taxes..

[whottt]

Many people voting for Obama are more voting pro Democrats and anti-Republican than anything. Not everybody is an Obama nuthugger.

Right...people that think massive Voter Fraud and raping the cons ution is cute and no big deal also support Obama...


Good point.

[baseline bum]

LMAO @ whott complaining about guerilla war. Sounds like the British complaining about Washington not lining his troops up like gentlemen.

[whottt]

LMAO @ whott complaining about guerilla war. Sounds like the British complaining about Washington not lining his troops up like gentlemen.

^^^^ Starting to get it.


Here's a list of whottt's idiots:


1. The British thinking they were so superior to those backwards Colonists.

2. The Azteks that welcomed all those white people with the nifty trinkets.

Stupid s...


And nothing has changed...


The British still think they're superior to everyone.

And the decendants of the Azteks still don't know a ing enemy when they see one.

[Purple & Gold]

I doubt we'll ever get into a major extended conventional war again...because thanks to stupid ing idiots like yourself...Guerilla Warfare is the way to beat us.

Ohhh you don't?? And it's my fault?? Keep em coming whottt your ignorance is comical.

You don't give a ing about what the other guys do...

You don't give a about beating Isamic Fundamentalist..and you are too ing stupid to understand how to do it.

So what other insight into my thoughts have your extended drug use given you?? Do tell. And tell us how to beat Islamic Fundamentalists whottt. Since you have it all figured out. Maybe you should apply for Secretary of Defense.

What ing arrogance...you mean like we were better than the Vietkong?

You mean like the British were better than the American Revolutionaries?

You mean like the Soviet Army was better than the Mujahadeen?

Stupid arrogant ass.

What are you talking about?? You make no sense. We are better than other countries that torture others. Do you understand that??

You render the Geneva Convention meaningless when you apply to anyone.

WTF are you talking about?? Do you really believe what you say?? Or is Palin's hand up your ass moving your mouth for you.

And BTW stupid ...Article 4 clearly defines what a POW is...

Get your stupid ing head out of your stupid ing ass and read it...the entire section I posted is about POW's...

And nowhere in it is your interpretation backed up.

Again answer me how we can be at war and not have prisoners of war?? They are POW's get it through your thick skull. The world defines them as POW's they deserve the rights the Geneva Convention gives them.

And you fight against now...Benedict Arnold fought for his country too...

At another non ever fighting Repug calling another veteran a traitor because they believe in the Geneva Convention and believe going to Iraq was the wrong thing to do. LMAO @ the irony.

I support it, in a time of war. Unlike you who supports those that fight against it...whole heartedly.

Wow whottt how great of you. Maybe they can put up a statue of you in your home town. The great whottt and how he supported his country by advocating war.

Your a sorry excuse for a person. Easy to advocate war when it ain't your ass on the line. And calling everybody that doesn't agree with you supporting the enemy whether they actually served for their country or not. What a great person and patriot you are whottt.

[whottt]

Actually their was a treaty about having to let inspectors have full view of their Nuclear program.

Not with the US there wasn't. Not that Saddam's actions wouldn't have broken any such treaty a dozen times over anyway.

I remember Colin Powell in front of the UN. I saw it on T.V. Microfilm and phone taps and all. So again where are the WMD's that the Bush Administration knew so much about.

A. They didn't need a justification to go into Iraq.

B. Our entire government was saying the same thing...then people started trying to use the situation for their own political gain.

[Purple & Gold]

all I can say is .. I am glad I don't live in LA anymore... you have the very wealth libs.. glad they will finally have to pay up under obama... I am sure they are a bit pensive about paying more in taxes..

L.A. is a much better place since you left

[Purple & Gold]

Not with the US there wasn't. Not that Saddam's actions wouldn't have broken any such treaty a dozen times over anyway.

They broke a treaty signed after the first Iraq war.

A. They didn't need a justification to go into Iraq.

B. Our entire government was saying the same thing...then people started trying to use the situation for their own political gain.

So why did they lie to the public?? Doesn't that concern you whottt??