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    ^^^^ Starting to get it.


    Here's a list of whottt's idiots:


    1. The British thinking they were so superior to those backwards Colonists.

    2. The Azteks that welcomed all those white people with the nifty trinkets.

    Stupid s...


    And nothing has changed...


    The British still think they're superior to everyone.

    And the decendants of the Azteks still don't know a ing enemy when they see one.
    WTF are you talking about. The British tortured and did everything to the Colonial Americans. Why do you think they were so unpopular and it was easy to field an army against them even though they were much better armed.

    And how does Old World diseases brought to the New World have anything to do with this.

    As for your present day thinkings of both of them?? Are you high son??

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    Ohhh you don't?? And it's my fault?? Keep em coming whottt your ignorance is comical.
    It's entirely the fault of yours and others like you.


    So what other insight into my thoughts have your extended drug use given you??
    Who said my drug use was extended?


    Do tell. And tell us how to beat Islamic Fundamentalists whottt. Since you have it all figured out. Maybe you should apply for Secretary of Defense.
    You get rid of the ty corrupt leaders that force their citizenry to live in conditions so inhumane that religious fanatacism seems like a step up.



    Again answer me how we can be at war and not have prisoners of war?? They are POW's get it through your thick skull. The world defines them as POW's they deserve the rights the Geneva Convention gives them.

    I posted the entire article 4 of the Geneva Convention...you show me that part of it that backs up your statement.


    At another non ever fighting Repug calling another veteran a traitor because they believe in the Geneva Convention and believe going to Iraq was the wrong thing to do. LMAO @ the irony.
    Hey if I see a veteran molesting a child the same way Obama supporters are attempting to molest our Elctoral system I am going to have issues with it as well...it's not a free pass.


    Wow whottt how great of you. Maybe they can put up a statue of you in your home town. The great whottt and how he supported his country by advocating war.
    I never advocated that war...I merely realized that once we went in we had to win.


    Your a sorry excuse for a person. Easy to advocate war when it ain't your ass on the line.
    Just shut the up dude..you don't know about me...


    And calling everybody that doesn't agree with you supporting the enemy whether they actually served for their country or not. What a great person and patriot you are whottt.
    I don't call everyone that disagrees with me the enemy...just those that support Islamic Terrorists...whether they realize they are doing it or not.

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    WTF are you talking about. The British tortured and did everything to the Colonial Americans. Why do you think they were so unpopular and it was easy to field an army against them even though they were much better armed.
    You don't know about why the British lost the war...it had nothing to do with whether or not they tortured anyone.


    And how does Old World diseases brought to the New World have anything to do with this.
    You don't know about this either...


    As for your present day thinkings of both of them?? Are you high son??
    No...I'm dead on accurate.

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    They broke a treaty signed after the first Iraq war.
    No they didn't.

    So why did they lie to the public?? Doesn't that concern you whottt??
    #1. I still don't know that they did. We only gave Saddam like 3 months to remove any WMD.

    You mind is limited by thinking all governments work at the same speed as the US Government with all those formalities and all those technecailities and all that due process...

    Saddam wasn't bound by any of that .

    If we did deliberately lie...then why didn't we just fabricate some WMD there?



    #2. It wasn't the only reason given for the Iraq war.

    #3. Why we went in no longer mattered after we went in...nothing can undo the decision to go in....the results of not winning there is all that matters.

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    1. I'm waiting for you to show me the section of the Geneva Convention that backed up your point.

    I already posted the part that backs up mine.

    2. I want you to show me the treaty the US signed with Saddam that they broke.


    C'mon ...Michael Moore isn't here to help you now...prove you know something other than the that has been injected into your brain.


    Show me what you know...

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    It's entirely the fault of yours and others like you.
    How so please explain yourself.

    Who said my drug use was extended?
    Just an educated guess, based on the wisdom I see in your posts and how you rationalize anything to suit your needs.

    You get rid of the ty corrupt leaders that force their citizenry to live in conditions so inhumane that religious fanatacism seems like a step up.
    This is actually something I would love to see be done. But it can't be done with force or else it won't work. People don't like when you go into their house and start making decisions for them no matter what it is. It actually breeds more hostility and violence.

    I posted the entire article 4 of the Geneva Convention...you show me that part of it that backs up your statement.
    Again technicalities. The world views them as POW's. They were captured in a war we are in. They are POW's. The world as well as McCain agree with that.

    Hey if I see a veteran molesting a child the same way Obama supporters are attempting to molest our Elctoral system I am going to have issues with it as well...it's not a free pass.
    Wow we really are reaching here. What did you think about what the Repugs did in Florida in 2000. Where you that livid back then.

    I never advocated that war...I merely realized that once we went in we had to win.
    So explain to me how you win this war? What would you say cons utes a victory and how long and how many lives do you think it will take? Again what cons utes a victory?

    Just shut the up dude..you don't know about me...
    Not that I would ever want to you neocon warhawk. Typical how you call anybody that doesn't agree with your point of view a traitor. Even veterans that fought while you sat on your ass.

    I don't call everyone that disagrees with me the enemy...just those that support Islamic Terrorists...whether they realize they are doing it or not.
    So exactly how are they supporting Islamic Terrorists? Since you are so enlightened on this subject.

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    1. I'm waiting for you to show me the section of the Geneva Convention that backed up your point.

    I already posted the part that backs up mine.

    2. I want you to show me the treaty the US signed with Saddam that they broke.


    C'mon ...Michael Moore isn't here to help you now...prove you know something other than the that has been injected into your brain.


    Show me what you know...
    I've already told you. Technicalities. The Geneva Convention is the lowest point of having to adhere to the law. We can actually have higher standards. You do realize that don't you?? The world sees them as POW's as well as many Americans and both Presidential candidates.

    Do you understand that??

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    1. I'm waiting for you to show me the section of the Geneva Convention that backed up your point.

    I already posted the part that backs up mine.

    2. I want you to show me the treaty the US signed with Saddam that they broke.


    C'mon ...Michael Moore isn't here to help you now...prove you know something other than the that has been injected into your brain.


    Show me what you know...
    Yes we know you think we had all the right to do what we wanted because it was a cease fire. Saddam was bound to give inspectors full access to the Nuclear Program. He didn't then he did after threats. Bush didn't think it was good or quick enough. We all remember what happened.

    Take some time to clear your head and try not posting while high anymore.

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    #1. I still don't know that they did. We only gave Saddam like 3 months to remove any WMD.

    You mind is limited by thinking all governments work at the same speed as the US Government with all those formalities and all those technecailities and all that due process...

    Saddam wasn't bound by any of that .

    If we did deliberately lie...then why didn't we just fabricate some WMD there?



    #2. It wasn't the only reason given for the Iraq war.

    #3. Why we went in no longer mattered after we went in...nothing can undo the decision to go in....the results of not winning there is all that matters.
    #1. So point num 1 we agree in. OK. But doesn't it concern you a bit. Colin Powell sounded so certain up there. And LMAO @ you thinking you know how my mind works.

    #2. It was the main reason. Well other than trying to set up a base in the Middle East and having the potential to control a country with huge oil reserves. No the human rights issues were bull or else we would have treated Saudi Arabia very differently. Although I agree that all forms of genocide should be stamped out by the U.S. in conjunction with the UN.

    #3. Actually this does matter. It is patriotic and necessary to question your country and debate about their motives of going to war. And again tell me what cons utes a victory.

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    This is actually something I would love to see be done. But it can't be done with force or else it won't work. People don't like when you go into their house and start making decisions for them no matter what it is. It actually breeds more hostility and violence.
    Yeah best to sanction them...because that improves living standards, creates jobs, feeds people, and turns people away from religious fanatacism


    Again technicalities. The world views them as POW's. They were captured in a war we are in. They are POW's. The world as well as McCain agree with that.
    the world...the world isn't on our side. The world is stupid.


    Wow we really are reaching here. What did you think about what the Repugs did in Florida in 2000. Where you that livid back then.

    Actually I was...at the same time, I just don't know for sure that anyone did...I just know some Democrats are too ing stupid to know how to vote...whether by ballot, or by machine.

    But even if they did...could have been undone in 4 years if the Democrats weren't so ing stupid and didn't politicize a war that most of them supported....including the ones who sat on the Senate Intelligence Commitee...like Senator John Stick Kerry.

    This going on now is before the fact...and is blatant...

    And if you think there isn't going to be massive fallout from it...you are being stupid.


    So explain to me how you win this war?
    Simple...true representative government with legtimate civil rights in a Mideastern Muslim Country....this puts every head country like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria under a microscope and they can no longer say it's just Israel and the US ing the Muslims over.


    What would you say cons utes a victory
    An Arab country hated by Saudi Arabia and Iran and much as Israel and the US are and for similar reasons.

    and how long and how many lives do you think it will take?
    It'll take much longer with asshat Americans wanting a pullout...that gives those we fight a reason to hold on...

    You'd have to be incomparably stupid to not understand this.


    Again what cons utes a victory?
    In Iraq? A few peaceful transfers of powers...human rights, representative government, an ideological alliance with the US and Israel...

    And oh yeah...the day they unite at all levels peacfully, and tell us we aren't needed anymore.








    Not that I would ever want to you neocon warhawk. Typical how you call anybody that doesn't agree with your point of view a traitor. Even veterans that fought while you sat on your ass.
    You want me to find some veterans that agree with me? S'not hard to do...


    So exactly how are they supporting Islamic Terrorists?
    By having the exact same goals and saying the exact same thing...and tying one hand behind their own countries back.

    Since you are so enlightened on this subject.
    I am very enlightened on this subject...I'm enlightened enough to know that being enlightened isn't enough.

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    #2. It was the main reason. Well other than trying to set up a base in the Middle East and having the potential to control a country with huge oil reserves. No the human rights issues were bull or else we would have treated Saudi Arabia very differently. Although I agree that all forms of genocide should be stamped out by the U.S. in conjunction with the UN.

    No...the main reason we went into Iraq was because we couldn't go into Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan...we had no legal recouse, they weren't in violation of Cease Fire agreements with us, in some cases our economies are married, and we would have had a much bloodier war with much more intense fighting, against more combatants...plus they didn't have a history of invading their neighbors.

    You say it was primarily about WMD...I say it was a message to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan to get their together.

    Saudi Arabia and Pakistan immediately got this message at least at some levels...Iran did not.


    Make no mistake about it...we do not have the ability to stop terrorist attacks in our country...those countries are the ones with the power to stop them...

    And the idea that Bush will ing invade them as he clearly stated in his Bush doctrine...is the main reason we have not had a single attack on this soil since 2001....it's got little or nothing to do with the Department of Homeland Security....that's my interpretation of it.



    I don't think the US Govt is going to announce their strategy to the world...that'd be kind of stupid.

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    By the way...feel free to compare the unemployment rates of Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia now compared to 2001...

    They are much lesser now...and not because new jobs have been created...but because their unemployed have been dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    By the way...feel free to compare the unemployment rates of Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia now compared to 2001...

    They are much lesser now...and not because new jobs have been created...but because their unemployed have been dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Iran's unemployment rate is about the same as 2001 after ing last year.

    Pakistan's unemployment rate has always been higher since 2001.

    Saudi Arabia's dropped between 2005 and 2006 but remained unchanged in the other years.

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    Iran's unemployment rate is about the same as 2001 after ing last year.

    Ok so take them from 2003 then...when Iraq started, and not just Afghanistan:


    http://www.indexmundi.com/iran/unemployment_rate.html

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    2003 16.30 % 65   2003 est. 
    2004 15.70 % 64 -3.68 % 2002 est. 
    2005 11.20 % 105 -28.66 % 2004 est. 
    2006 11.20 % 112 0.00 % 2004 est. 
    2007 15.00 % 147 33.93 % 2007 est. 
    2008 11.00 % 126 -26.67 % June 2007
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    Pakistan's unemployment rate has always been higher since 2001.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/pakistan/u...ment_rate.html

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    2003 7.80 % 119   2002 est. 
    2004 7.70 % 122 -1.28 % 2003 est. 
    2005 8.30 % 75 7.79 % 2004 est. 
    2006 6.60 % 65 -20.48 % 2005 est. 
    2007 6.50 % 72 -1.52 % 2006 est. 
    2008 7.50 % 91 15.38 % 2007 est.
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    Saudi Arabia's dropped between 2005 and 2006 but remained unchanged in the other years.
    http://www.indexmundi.com/saudi_arab...ment_rate.html


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    2003 25.00 % 33   2002 
    2004 25.00 % 33 0.00 % 2003 
    2005 25.00 % 159 0.00 % 2004 est. 
    2006 13.00 % 134 -48.00 % 2004 est. 
    2007 13.00 % 136 0.00 % 2004 est. 
    2008 13.00 % 138 0.00 % 2004 est.
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    Ok so take them from 2003 then.


    Don't get mad at me because you suck at this.

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    Don't get mad at me because you suck at this.


    I'm not mad Chump...you go ahead and split hairs to your hearts content...it's what you do best. It's all you do in fact.

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    blah blach buncha bull .

    I just went across the street and talked to my neighbor...he's a Mexican American with 2 babies and just got recalled from the Army reserves to go to Iraq and work in counter insurgency...

    This guy is leaving his wife, kids and job behind for a year...


    And he's got more McCain signs in his yard than a McCain HQ does.


    You really don't want to know what he wants to think about Obama and those who support him.

    Piece of cake to find veterans that disagree with you.

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    So according to whotttenomics, several hundreds of thousands of Iranians rose from the dead between 2006 and 2007 and looked for work back home, then went off to redie in the jihad a year later.

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    So using whotttenomics, several hundreds of thousands of Iranians rose from the dead between 2006 and 2007 and looked for work back home, then went off to redie in the jihad a year later.


    LOL you're funny when you're owned...and you are owned, severely...technicality or not.

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    I'm not mad Chump...you go ahead and split hairs to your hearts content...it's what you do best. It's all you do in fact.
    And you just spout complete bull hoping you don't get called on it...it's what you do best. It's all you do in fact.

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    I posted the links that proved my point dude...maybe not from 2001, but most certainly from 2003 on when we went into Iraq.

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    LOL you're funny when you're owned...and you are owned, severely...technicality or not.
    Please explain the e in unemployment.

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    I posted the links that proved my point dude...maybe not from 2001, but most certainly from 2003 on when we went into Iraq.
    Except they don't.

    Most certainly they do not.

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    Please explain the e in unemployment.

    Which one?

    You got ing owned on Saudi Arabia.

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    Except they don't.

    Most certainly they do not.
    They sure as do...in every single case lower now than in 2003.

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