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How so, what voting bloc would change their vote based upon this endorsement?
Dude I don't think the republicans would try to fix this election if they could.
How so, what voting bloc would change their vote based upon this endorsement?
The small percentage of Republicans who aren't brainless talkingpointbots.
"What these idiots don't understand is that Powell's UN speech was the last attempt at finding a diplomatic solution to the Iraq situation"
Powell's lying "mobile weapons lab" speech, known in the CIA/NSA to be bull , had the objective of obtaining a UN resolution to justify dubya busting into and occupying Iraq.
dubya and the neo-c*nts secret agenda in 2000 was invading Iraq (secret = totally unmentioned as campaign plank), no matter what. dubya abandoned Afghanistan only a few weeks after invading to switch his priority to Iraq.
I don't respect Powell for his role in the Iraq War, but it's undeniable that his endorsement helps Obama.
[QUOTE=George Gervin's Afro;2834939]Where did Powell get the information to use to justify the war? He also said that the war would have never gained his, or the public's, backing had Iraq not had wmds. QUOTE]
Same sources that passed along the info to Bush, so whatever your judgement is, it should be more of less the same for both.
Other than that, on this issue, yor are a hypocrite.
I disagree. I think they were laying out the justifications for going in.
Back then most countries thought the evidence was bull , hence the lack of support. I don't think at any moment was in doubt that the US and the UK were gonna go in regardless of what happened in that meeting. In Powell's defense, I would say that I don't know if he knew the evidence he presented was bull or not. It might well be the case he got duped by the Cheney goons too. That said, the evidence did prove to be bull , and he ended up looking real bad worldwide because of that.
I imagine this endorsement will have just slightly less impact on voting than Powell being Bush's SOS had on the votes of Nbadan, boutons and Joe Chalupa etc. in 2004...
Bush didn't want to go through the UN at all. He already thought he had full justification to invade.
God you're stupid.
"The Powell endorsement is a big deal," said Scott Reed, Bob Dole's campaign manager in 1996 and a close friend of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis. "It has been bantered about since August, and shows both Powell and Obama know how to make an impact in the closing days of a tight campaign."
"What that just did in one sound bite -- and I assume that sound bite will end up in an ad -- is it eliminated the experience factor," said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican, in an appearance on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos. "How are you going to say the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former National Security Adviser, former Secretary of State was taken in?"
Huge victory for Palin.
Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you like Powell for his record of service to his country, or like me, find his role in covering for Bush on Iraq unforgivable, this endorsement is a huge coup for Obama. Powell has cred with moderates and independents.
McCain just comes across as so pathetic here:
You're saying Powell has street cred? Wow, what a racist!
Powell post-MTP interview
It's going to make Obama and his supporters feel good, but I don't believe the undecided voter was sitting around thinking; "I'm gonna vote for the candidate that Powell endorses".
As far as supporting Obama, Powell didn't add any new talking points to the Democrat's arguement against McCain, or for Obama.
edit: added don't to make sense of what I posted.
Last edited by jochhejaam; 10-19-2008 at 01:08 PM.
By itself it doesn't do anything major, but it helps Obama win the newscycle for the next couple of days after the McCain campaign was beginning to find its bearings after a terrible 3-4 weeks. The clock is ticking and McCain is running out of time to make up ground.
One thing it does is put one final nail in the experience coffin - The former SoS and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs says Obama is ready to be Commander in Chief.
No, but Powell does offer his opinion that as someone who has consulted with Obama for the last two years, he feels that Obama would make a good President. That helps with the Obama campaign's goal of making independents comfortable with the idea of an Obama presidency.
I see....so what you are saying is that if Powell had endorsed McCain you'd have voted for him.
Got it
forbrains.
I was counting on the support of CBF, Nbadan, boutons, GGA and Joe Chalupa for McCain...now this.
Powell's endorsement for those who missed it -
Perhaps, assuming the independents aren't among the many that will always despise Bush and Powell for leading the Charge into Iraq.
It's definitely a positive, I just don't believe it translates into many votes.
Time will tell.
Edit again: Atrocious spelling, maybe I should proof-read.
Last edited by jochhejaam; 10-19-2008 at 01:19 PM.
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