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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Exactly which part of his platform do you like?
    His foreign policy and health care policy are more in line with mine.

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    His foreign policy and health care policy are more in line with mine.
    Are you going to be mad at Obama when his health care promises don't come to fruition?

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    Your threads make no sense. There is a good chance McCain will die in office if he gets elected and Palin will be president.

    Arguing experience makes no sense when your vice president choice has no experience at all.

    Argue that.


    AWESOME. Could you tell me when Im going to die as well? Id just like to know.

    I can't guarantee that Palin won't be president if we elect McCain, but I CAN guarantee that Obama will (if we elect Obama).

    If you don't object to Obama having no experience, then you surely can't object to Palin's record, right?

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    Your threads make no sense. There is a good chance McCain will die in office if he gets elected and Palin will be president.

    Arguing experience makes no sense when your vice president choice has no experience at all.

    Argue that.
    Wow. Do you know something we don't know?
    He may be old(er) than past Presidents, but that doesn't mean he'll die while in office.

    For crying out loud, my great-grandmother just passed away earlier this year at the age of 99.

    People are living longer these days.

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    Are you going to be mad at Obama when his health care promises don't come to fruition?
    Not really, I don't think either candidate can really do exactly as they say. I've already got health insurance but I'd like to see the costs come down.

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    Not really, I don't think either candidate can really do exactly as they say. I've already got health insurance but I'd like to see the costs come down.
    Fair enough.

    Is there anything you'd be mad at Obama for not doing in his first four years?

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    If you don't object to Obama having no experience, then you surely can't object to Palin's record, right?
    I do object that she doesn't know what she's talking about. At least I can understand what Obama is saying in matters of foreign policy, but Palin is just way over her head. And it's really a problem being that we're involved in two wars right now.

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    His foreign policy and health care policy are more in line with mine.
    Fair enough. But I think you should think about whats gonna happen when a lot of companies are presented with a new fine when they find out that the health coverage they DO give their employees doesn't match "The Ones" standard.

    Couple that with their higher taxes and theres gonna be some layoffs coming.

    If Obama wants to tax us and give everyone healthcare. Fine.

    But mandating employer based health care is just stupid (so is his stupid "Im not mandating health care for everyone like Hillary....just children because I want to look more moderate").

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    Fair enough.

    Is there anything you'd be mad at Obama for not doing in his first four years?
    I'm going to interject on this question just to express that I would be pretty mad if he didn't get us out of Iraq and focused on Afghanistan in 4 years.

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    I do object that she doesn't know what she's talking about. At least I can understand what Obama is saying in matters of foreign policy, but Palin is just way over her head. And it's really a problem being that we're involved in two wars right now.
    Did it make sense when Obama said that the 2007 troop surge had no chance of working. Or when he said that both the Georgians and Russians should show restraint even though this was the equivalent of a pee-wee football team showing restraint against the Patriots.

    Or do you trust his advisor, Joe Biden, who was against Reagan in his fight against the Soviets, against Desert Storm, for the current war in Iraq and against the troop surge?

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    I'm going to interject on this question just to express that I would be pretty mad if he didn't get us out of Iraq and focused on Afghanistan in 4 years.
    I would be mad if McCain didn't do the same thing.

    Of course, John McCain fixed Iraq, so I have reason to believe he could fix Afghanistan.

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    I'm going to interject on this question just to express that I would be pretty mad if he didn't get us out of Iraq and focused on Afghanistan in 4 years.
    +1 and decrease military spending, spending altogether and revoke Dubya's tax cuts which have done nothing but redistribute wealth to the top 1% which already possess 50% of our nations wealth....

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    Fair enough. But I think you should think about whats gonna happen when a lot of companies are presented with a new fine when they find out that the health coverage they DO give their employees doesn't match "The Ones" standard.

    Couple that with their higher taxes and theres gonna be some layoffs coming.

    If Obama wants to tax us and give everyone healthcare. Fine.

    But mandating employer based health care is just stupid (so is his stupid "Im not mandating health care for everyone like Hillary....just children because I want to look more moderate").
    You sound just like the people who say McCain could die his first 4 years in office. You don't know what's going to happen in the future. Right now you're just throwing around a lot of assumptions. Your crystal ball sees "layoffs". Big in deal What makes your crystal ball so special? Not a damn thing.

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    Did it make sense when Obama said that 2007 troop surge had no chance of working.
    The surge didn't work.....

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    +1 and decrease military spending, spending altogether and revoke Dubya's tax cuts which have done nothing but redistribute wealth to the top 1% which already possess 50% of our nations wealth....


    So you think that Obama's gonna veto Democrat bills because they have too much spending?

    Seriously?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tell me youre freaking joking. The guy has a NINETY SEVEN PERCENT record of voting with his party and you think he's gonna change NOW?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Did it make sense when Obama said that 2007 troop surge had no chance of working. Or when he said that both the Georgians and Russians should show restraint even though this was the equivalent of a pee-wee football team showing restraint against the Patriots.

    Or do you trust his advisor, Joe Biden, who was against Reagan in his fight against the Soviets, against Desert Storm, for the current war in Iraq and against the troop surge?
    So you think the surge has worked huh?

    In the fall of 2006, the nation’s military leaders found themselves badly out of sync with the White House over what to do in Iraq, with one of the Joint Chiefs telling Bush, “You’re stressing the force, Mr. President, and these kids just see deployments to Iraq or Afghanistan for the indefinite future.” But as the surge progressed in 2007, violent attacks began to drop dramatically in Iraq. Was the surge the reason for this reversal? Knowledgeable officials say the influx of troops was just one of four factors, and not the most consequential one.
    The book also says that the U.S. troop "surge" of 2007, in which President Bush sent nearly 30,000 additional U.S. combat forces and support troops to Iraq, was not the primary factor behind the steep drop in violence there during the past 16 months.

    Rather, Woodward reports, "groundbreaking" new covert techniques enabled U.S. military and intelligence officials to locate, target and kill insurgent leaders and key individuals in extremist groups such as al-Qaeda in Iraq.

    Woodward does not disclose the code names of these covert programs or provide much detail about them, saying in the book that White House and other officials cited national security concerns in asking him to withhold specifics.

    Overall, Woodward writes, four factors combined to reduce the violence: the covert operations; the influx of troops; the decision by militant cleric Moqtada al-Sadr to rein in his powerful Mahdi Army; and the so-called Anbar Awakening, in which tens of thousands of Sunnis turned against al-Qaeda in Iraq and allied with U.S. forces.
    I wish people were more informed about this.

    And I guess Biden was just a commie bas since he was "against Reagan in his fight against the Soviets". I would like some proof on that though.

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    Of course, John McCain fixed Iraq,


    What the did McSame do for Iraq? I wonder if the 1+ million displaced Iraqis think the surge worked...

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    The surge didn't work.....
    Funny....cuz Obama said it did beyond his "wildest dreams", remember?

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    I would be mad if McCain didn't do the same thing.

    Of course, John McCain fixed Iraq, so I have reason to believe he could fix Afghanistan.

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    So you think that Obama's gonna veto Democrat bills because they have too much spending?

    Seriously?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tell me youre freaking joking. The guy has a NINETY SEVEN PERCENT record of voting with his party and you think he's gonna change NOW?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I'd rather they spend money here than in Iraq where it does nobody absolutely any good...

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    Did it make sense when Obama said that 2007 troop surge had no chance of working. Or when he said that both the Georgians and Russians should show restraint even though this was the equivalent of a pee-wee football team showing restraint against the Patriots.

    Or do you trust his advisor, Joe Biden, who was against Reagan in his fight against the Soviets, against Desert Storm, for the current war in Iraq and against the troop surge?
    I understand that he voted against the stupid Iraq war, that he wants us out of the war for oil, and to refocus where the real theater is, Afghanistan. But most importantly, I also understand that he doesn't want 100 years in Iraq, or that he understood that we were not going to be greeted as liberators, and that the war was going to be a piece of cake.
    Then again, Palin's reference to foreign policy was that McCain is a maverick. I mean, really?

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    So you think the surge has worked huh?



    I wish people were more informed about this.

    And I guess Biden was just a commie bas since he was "against Reagan in his fight against the Soviets". I would like some proof on that though.
    Ah yes, the proverbial "The Surge didn't work. Those thirty thousand extra troops just happened to arrive EXACTLY when the Awakening started."

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    Funny....cuz Obama said it did beyond his "wildest dreams", remember?
    ...the surge was a day late...the Iraqis solved their own problems which would have happened with or without the surge...

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    Ah yes, the proverbial "The Surge didn't work. Those thirty thousand extra troops just happened to arrive EXACTLY when the Awakening started."


    The awakening councils were happening before the surge....

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    Wow. Do you know something we don't know?
    He may be old(er) than past Presidents, but that doesn't mean he'll die while in office.

    For crying out loud, my great-grandmother just passed away earlier this year at the age of 99.

    People are living longer these days.
    Did your great grandmother have one of, if not THE most stressful job in the world at any point during her life?

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