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Obama will never do me....Whottt on the other hand.....
Why do you lie about me? Bill Ayers is a radical. Sarah Palin is rather dumb and uninformed but certainly not a contemptuous .
Obama will never do me....Whottt on the other hand.....
Obama did not want to go to the war and voted accordingly. You seem to forget this "judgement" was correct at the time and would have saved 4000+ lives.
Your candidate is a war monger, just like our current President. Get over it.
why do you lie so much?
beat the snot out of the Clintons.
Why yes, CH...she was the President of the US...don't you remember?
The point is, just because the job is stressful doesn't mean he's going to die in office.
The question here is wether you feel confident in Palin running our country should anything happen to McCain. I mean, the same question applies to Biden.
After listening to both, I think Biden would do poorly, but compared to Palin, exceptionally well.
Sorry. Can't take the chance.
meh...I'm not thrilled with any of them. I'm honestly not sure any one of them would do better than the others.
Our options suck.
any one of them can die in office.
Which is why the choice of VP is such an important decision.
I guess not because he's leading in the polls and forcing Republicans to defend red states. Imagine what he'd have done if he actually accomplished something.....
The VP can die too.
I feel for you. I can't personally vote, but I know exactly what you mean.
So you're pinning your hopes on Palin dying before the election? That might help turnout the base, but I think there too much of a deficit to swing the election.
I'm not hoping anyone dies...but anyone can...not just McCain, and that's the point.
You are referencing 2003? 5 yrs ago?
The future? Like serveral people have stated already McCain is 72 yr old, he has a good chance of having health issues in office that could make him unable to perform his duties...then what happens? Palin?
Health is not an issue with Obama.
The price of oil is not being guided by our involvement in Iraq, it is going down because of the current financial crisis. I blame the price of oil on the oil companies themselves, I also blame them for part of this current financial crisis as well. People can't afford mortgage payments in part because they have to spend more and more on energy prices.
If we left Iraq?
We never should have gone in when we did in the first place. I feel if put as much effort in getting Bin-Laden from the outset, as we have in Iraq, he would either already be in custody or dead. We never finished the job in Afganistan first to warrant our invasion of Iraq. Afganistan is worse off now in many ways than before the war started, and since we mismanged the war in all fronts the USA has become despised in that part of the world it seems.
A big problem is we went into Iraq with no exit strategy or idea what needed to be accomplished to consider victory in that military action, it seems we had no real objective in Iraq. It was supposed to be WMD's, there were none, we got Saddam, now what? The leadership never stopped to think "what if there are no WMD's how should we handle that?" We conducted this war like a game of Risk by kids, let's attack Iraq because the blue pieces are there.
I was told that if I used "sarcasm blue" in my posts, people would know I was being sarcastic.
What's your point? You could die tomorrow, so why post on Spurstalk?
You're completely ignoring the issue here. I stated that McCain is much more likely to die in office because he's very old, the oldest president in history if he wins, and you went all Sylvia Plath in response. So what? Anyone can die. You aren't providing us with a groundbreaking revelation with a statement like that. The point is, is that McCain is much, MUCH more likely to die in office than most Presidents have been. This means his VP choice is of much greater importance than usual and deservedly bears greater scrutiny. Sarah Palin is not fit to be VP of the United States, let alone President. She's not even close. And beyond that, the VP still stands for a lot. Palin has NO idea what she's doing and she's horribly out of her depth.
Does that mean I hate her? Absolutely not. I like Sarah Palin. She's a likable person! But likable does not translate into running the most powerful country in the world, otherwise you could use that logic to elect Robin Williams or Stephen Colbert into office.
Just stop with the philosophy nonsense when you're attempting to argue for Sarah Palin's legitimacy to be on the ticket. She has none. She was a pick for surprise and hype value and little else.
Ah....I did not know that rule.
I'm with you now.
Usually, I just automatically read comments on this site with sarcasm, but I didn't this time.
Sorry.
A) I don't think any of our candidates are "fit" to run this country. But, you'd know that if you'd read my other responses in this forum.Sarah Palin is not fit to be VP of the United States, let alone President. She's not even close. And beyond that, the VP still stands for a lot. Palin has NO idea what she's doing and she's horribly out of her depth.
B) I already covered my thoughts on Palin. Read up.
Just stop with the philosophy nonsense when you're attempting to argue for Sarah Palin's legitimacy to be on the ticket. She has none. She was a pick for surprise and hype value and little else.at the thought I'm "arguing for Palin's legitimacy."
Just because I said any of those candidates could die before or after taking office doesn't somehow translate into "Palin's a great pick and would run this country well."
Get off your high horse, CH.
Wow, you've turned bitter during the offseason. What the ?
I'm bitter because both presidential candidates just voted for an $800,000,000,000 bailout that is only going to benefit the rich, and now I have to defend one of them.
A) I don't think any of our candidates are "fit" to run this country. But, you'd know that if you'd read my other responses in this forum.
B) I already covered my thoughts on Palin. Read up.
Just because I said any of those candidates could die before or after taking office doesn't somehow translate into "Palin's a great pick and would run this country well."
Get off your high horse, CH.
Wow, you've turned bitter during the offseason. What the ?
And yes, perhaps none of the four P/VPs are fit to be president, but there ARE levels here. This is not an all or nothing deal. McCain and Obama are both pretty scary in some areas, but stating they are unfit and therefore lumping them in with Palin is a drastic overgeneralization. McCain or Obama are most likely going to struggle with the situation they are ascending to in office, whoever gets in. But this isn't black and white. They would struggle -- Sarah Palin would absolutely suck. Her incompetence would be apparent from day 1. She would be ridiculed and demolished by every facet of the office that demanded leadership from her.
And for the last time, this isn't a personal rip on Palin! I love my parents, but that doesn't mean I think they would make a good president, as they would be out of their depth. Exactly like Ms. Palin. Obama might be Rex Grossman and McCain might be Ryan Leaf, but Sarah Palin is a sop re in high school in this metaphor. None of them can stand an NFL defense, but it's the difference between being relatively bad and getting absolutely killed. I'm not on a horse, I just think it's ludicrous that people feel Palin should be a VP in any regard, after the stunts pulled by the GOP campaign in this election.
Obama hasn't done much of anything really. That's what makes this election so hilarious. Republicans ed up so badly that there's a good chance the American people are going to elect a guy for no other reason than his not being a Republican.
Well, I don't know who you're talking to, but I never said you were personally ripping Palin.
The Little Known Truth of Barack Obama's Legislative Record
As we all know, Barack Obama hasn't passed any major legislation. He's inexperienced, never done anything. We know this. We know it because John McCain and Sarah Palin, bless her accomplished heart, have said so. And so, we know.
Far be it from me not to take their word for it, but I decided to check things out. And shockingly... it doesn't turn out to be true! Really. So, take a guess on how much legislation Barack Obama has sponsored in the United States Senate, which has become law.
C'mon, take a guess.
Nope, sorry, take another guess.
Barack Obama has authored or co-sponsored 579 bills in Washington. And as a state senator, he sponsored 820 laws for Illinois.
That's 1,399 bills in all. Not bad for someone who apparently had done zero -- okay, according to his opponents.
I know, I know. Those 820 are just for a "state," so they don't really count. Except... well, wait, a "state" is what Sarah Palin is governor of. (At least for 21 months.) So if sponsoring pesky "state" laws doesn't count, what in the world does she have on her resume then? Other than ethics violations.
Besides, y'know, Illinois is an awfully big state. If someone passes a law there, it does affect the lives of 13 million people.
And, yipes, it turns out that there is a wide-ranging record of
bipartisan laws he's co-sponsored, as well, working across the aisles with Republicans. Go figure, who knew?!
Okay, first, let's look at Barack Obama's 579 Senate bills. (To be fair, some of these are pending -- the U.S. Senate works slooowly...)
But here are just a few highlights of the ones that have passed.
With Russ Feingold, Sen. Obama helped put together and co-sponsor the Obama/Feingold 2007 Ethics Reform Law, which curbed lobbying abuses. The bill was perhaps the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate.
Mr. Obama joined forces with Republican Richard Lugar as original co-sponsors of the landmark bill that improved the government's ability to detect and destroy Weapons of Mass Destruction, keeping them from terrorists.
Working across the aisle again, this time, with Republican Chuck Hagel, Barack Obama authored a provision to secure vulnerable nuclear weapons and nuclear material around the world, protecting them from terrorists.
Sen. Obama also wrote the legislation for his Homes for Heroes Act and SAVE Act, that increased services for homeless veterans.
Shockingly, it turns out that John McCain is also wrong about Barack Obama not being willing to go against his party. You see, Mr. Obama sponsored an amendment that required lobbyist disclosures. And as the NY Times wrote, "The disclosure idea's lead sponsor, Senator Barack Obama... 'has not been the most popular person in our caucus in the last couple of weeks,' said a Democratic aide involved in deliberations over the bill."
Gee. Apparently, it seems, Barack Obama has been willing to buck his own party. And work across the aisle. And sponsor and pass important legislation. And there are 574 other bills -- some large, some smaller, but all can be found on State Surge.
Meanwhile, his record as a senator in Illinois has an impressive 820 bills that impacted the lives of countless millions, as well. By the way, for fact buffs: the 13th District he represented was alone comprised of 653,457 people -- the same as the entire state of Alaska.
In Illinois, with its 13 million citizens, Barack Obama co-sponsored
bipartisan campaign finance reforms, that the Chicago Tribune referred to as "the most sweeping good-government legislation in decades."
He co-sponsored a bipartisan, groundbreaking ethics reform law and was the main sponsor of the Health Care Justice Act.
As co-chairman of a bipartisan committee, Sen. Obama also helped pass predatory mortgage lending reforms, which prevent foreclosures. (Hmm, that was forward thinking. Ya think? But, tosh, it was just a "state" law...)
He sponsored laws that raised tax credits for low-income workers, that improved childcare subsidies for the KidCare Program (bringing health care to 70,000 uncovered children), and that reformed welfare. And he co-sponsored the Equal Pay Act for women.
Further, Mr. Obama sponsored bipartisan legislation that made Illinois the first state to require videotaping of capital cases, and bipartisan laws for monitoring racial profiling.
This list goes endlessly on. A total of 820 laws in all. FactCheck.org
has detailed descriptions.
None of this is to place a value judgment on the 579 federal laws Barack Obama authored or co-sponsored. Nor is it to equate state laws with federal. It's merely to address the false impression that the McCain campaign has tried to put forth that Sen. Obama has sponsored no important legislation in the U.S. Senate, never been able to work across the aisle and largely sat in the Illinois Senate voting "present."
Put whatever value you wish on the 1,399 laws Barack Obama has helped sponsor. Decide for yourself what is a "major" law. From ethics reform to safeguarding WMD to child health care to home foreclosure protection, and much more, you have a great many laws to choose from.
It's up to you to decide if passing laws in a state of 13 million people shows a person's interests, initiative and abilities and helps set precedents. In truth, Illinois state laws do not cover a nation - they just cover 4% of the nation's population.
In the end, there is only one simple point to this. Honesty. That anyone who suggests that Barack Obama has been ineffectual in his 12-year career as an elected representative, sponsoring no important legislation, unable to work across party lines, unwilling to go against his party, and avoiding taking stances by voting "present" -- then that person doesn't know what they are talking about.
Or is lying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/the-little-known-truth-of_b_136516.html?view=print
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McNasty and his pitbull lie, lie, lie about HUSSEIN, because they can't countenance nor counter the truth of HUSSEIN
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