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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    Sorry if this is already known. I found the reports on all the Spurs players sometimes right on, sometimes faily inaccurate. But it's a valiant attempt.

    http://www.nbapostup.com/content/matt-bonner

    Matt Bonner does not have much scoring ability
    Definitely wont shoot it much
    Shoots a three at any time
    Pretty good three point marksman
    Definitely will not get to the line much
    Outstanding free throw shooter
    Very good outside shooter
    Weak driving to the basket
    Weak post up game
    Not a runner of the floor
    Matt Bonner is not much of an offensive rebounder
    Not a good defensive rebounder
    Matt Bonner is not a real passer
    Bad ball handling skills
    Matt Bonner is not a player who will get steals
    Not a player who will get blocks
    Bad fighting off wide open shots
    Players can blow right past him
    Solid post presence defensively
    Can not defend in transition
    Matt Bonner is not overly strong
    Has no quickness
    Matt Bonner is more of a marginal basketball player but can be effective as an end of the bench player

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    From Down... Under xcoriate's Avatar
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    Interesting site... What I love though is that you could have gone with any Spurs player and for some reason went with Matt Bonner!?!?

    Not TD, not TP not Manu... Matt Bonner?

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    Sorry if this is already known. I found the reports on all the Spurs players sometimes right on, sometimes faily inaccurate. But it's a valiant attempt.

    http://www.nbapostup.com/content/matt-bonner

    Matt Bonner is more of a marginal basketball player but can be effective as an end of the bench player
    I think that sums it up, which is why it always surprises me when people go crazy about Bonner not being a starter-type player.

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    I think people take issue with his salary being disproportional to his contribution.

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    I like this one

    Jacque Vaughn is a poor basketball player with borderline NBA skills

    http://www.nbapostup.com/content/jacque-vaughn

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    I think people take issue with his salary being disproportional to his contribution.
    I understand that view-- but maybe Bonner's greatest contribution was allowing the Spurs to unload Rasho's even larger salary, which is 8.4 mil this year.

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    To put things into perspective:

    Bruce Bowen Statistics Generated Scouting Report

    Bruce Bowen does not have much scoring ability
    Definitely wont shoot it much
    Looks for the three at times
    Excellent three point shooter
    Not looking to draw fouls
    Disaster from the free throw stripe
    Outstanding pure shooter
    Awful getting to the hoop
    Poor inside game
    Not a threat in the running game
    Bruce Bowen never gets offensive rebounds
    Poor on the defensive board
    Bruce Bowen is not much of a passer
    Good decision maker
    Bruce Bowen is not a player who will get steals
    Not a player who will get blocks
    Very weak outside defensively
    Mediocre perimeter defender
    Poor defensively in the post
    Struggles getting back on defense
    Bruce Bowen definitely needs to get stronger
    Very little quickness
    Bruce Bowen needs a lot of work and is lucky to be an NBA basketball player

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    To put things into perspective:

    Bruce Bowen Statistics Generated Scouting Report

    Bruce Bowen does not have much scoring ability
    Definitely wont shoot it much
    Looks for the three at times
    Excellent three point shooter
    Not looking to draw fouls
    Disaster from the free throw stripe
    Outstanding pure shooter
    Awful getting to the hoop
    Poor inside game
    Not a threat in the running game
    Bruce Bowen never gets offensive rebounds
    Poor on the defensive board
    Bruce Bowen is not much of a passer
    Good decision maker
    Bruce Bowen is not a player who will get steals
    Not a player who will get blocks
    Very weak outside defensively
    Mediocre perimeter defender
    Poor defensively in the post
    Struggles getting back on defense
    Bruce Bowen definitely needs to get stronger
    Very little quickness
    Bruce Bowen needs a lot of work and is lucky to be an NBA basketball player

    Bowen's profile was the first I read when I looked at some others reports about Spurs players and I thought the same like you. whatever statistical method this site uses, its obviously crap. if they are not able to generate an accurate analysis about the defensive abilities from some stats (which isn't easy to do), they shouldn't talk about defensive abilities at all. otherwise it happens like this and you get an "analysis", that is in fact totally wrong.

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    jinxed for life MagnusKrauss's Avatar
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    also, not to diss fans of the kiwi....

    Sean Marks Statistics Generated Scouting Report
    Sean Marks is definitely not a scoring threat
    Takes an average amount of shots

    Poor from the three point line
    Gets fouled often
    Not a good free throw shooter
    Adequate from 15-20 feet
    Poor driving to the basket
    Outstanding post up player
    Has trouble running the floor
    Sean Marks is not a good offensive rebounder
    Does a great job on the defensive glass
    Sean Marks is not much of a passer
    Bad ball handling skills
    Sean Marks gets an average amount of steals
    Sensational shot blocker
    Weak at denying the open attempt
    Players can blow right past him
    Terrific post defender
    Can not defend in transition
    Sean Marks is extremely strong
    Little quickness
    Sean Marks is a very good basketball player who will start for your team

    the site isn't very accurate.

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    Statistics aren't lies but liars can use statistics. Some of the conclusions seem to be in opposition to each other.

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    Believe. Barbie's Avatar
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    omg, i bet if i wuz on that scouting report it would say im so pretty n smart n pretty n inteiligant. Plus i luv to play D, or at least Ken's D <3


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    I never saw any decent statisical individual defensive rating. But if you start from blocks and steals you will never have a good rating, you will just reward gamblers (even if a couple of great defensive players are also great shotblockers or "stealers").

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    Ghost of Mr. K SenorSpur's Avatar
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    From that scouting report, you'd wonder how Bonner ever made it to the NBA

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    From that scouting report, you'd wonder how Bonner ever made it to the NBA
    Sometimes I wonder that WITHOUT looking at that report...

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    Ghost of Mr. K SenorSpur's Avatar
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    Sometimes I wonder that WITHOUT looking at that report...

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    I like this one

    Jacque Vaughn is a poor basketball player with borderline NBA skills

    http://www.nbapostup.com/content/jacque-vaughn
    yet he's managed to stay in the nba for years and years

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    To put things into perspective:

    Bruce Bowen Statistics Generated Scouting Report

    Bruce Bowen does not have much scoring ability
    Definitely wont shoot it much
    Looks for the three at times
    Excellent three point shooter
    Not looking to draw fouls
    Disaster from the free throw stripe
    Outstanding pure shooter
    Awful getting to the hoop
    Poor inside game
    Not a threat in the running game
    Bruce Bowen never gets offensive rebounds
    Poor on the defensive board
    Bruce Bowen is not much of a passer
    Good decision maker
    Bruce Bowen is not a player who will get steals
    Not a player who will get blocks
    Very weak outside defensively
    Mediocre perimeter defender
    Poor defensively in the post
    Struggles getting back on defense
    Bruce Bowen definitely needs to get stronger
    Very little quickness
    Bruce Bowen needs a lot of work and is lucky to be an NBA basketball player

    It appears that this program factors steals and blocks as its primary defensive statistics. If it's sophisticated enough (a big "if") it might even factor into its analysis the number of points a defender gives up.

    What it obviously doesn't consider is who that person is guarding. Since Bruce's job is to cover the other team's best player every night it must appear to this program that he's being lit up, and, compounding that with the fact that Bruce doesn't get a lot of steals, blocks or defensive rebounds he obviously seems to be a crappy defender based upon this program's calculations.

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    I understand that view-- but maybe Bonner's greatest contribution was allowing the Spurs to unload Rasho's even larger salary, which is 8.4 mil this year.

    That contribution should be finished last year when his contract was renewed

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    I guarantee you one thing, Bonner would put up better numbers in a starting role than Mahinmi would.

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    SCOLA THREAD!!!

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    Optomistic but Realistic MrChug's Avatar
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    I think people take issue with his salary being disproportional to his contribution.
    Well said. We have a winner.

    Also, I disagree with the following:

    -Matt Bonner is not much of an offensive rebounder
    -Not a good defensive rebounder
    That's not his roll. He's a fantastic offensive rebounder and on occasion has become THE very source of energy coming off the bench. Although I don't think he's a great (even good) player, I think he could serve a purpose here and is fearless.

    But all in all????? I THINK THIS SITE IS . Thanks for playing.

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