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  1. #26
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    Avery sucks. Period Similar to Isaiah Thomas. Carlisle fixed that mess the next year after Thomas failed.

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    Avery sucks. Period Similar to Isaiah Thomas. Carlisle fixed that mess the next year after Thomas failed.
    carlisle is another choker

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    avery was not the problem


    its that pussyfied excuse of an athlete named dirk and that dumb ass star spangled banner hating j-ho


    idiots

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    Devan George should defiantly start at center in a playoff game.

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    avery was not the problem


    its that pussyfied excuse of an athlete named dirk and that dumb ass star spangled banner hating j-ho


    idiots
    You get a kick in trolling I see. You couldn't really be this stupid. Carlisle teams always overachieve. No way Indiana should've won 60 games with such a weak offense.

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    You get a kick in trolling I see. You couldn't really be this stupid. Carlisle teams always overachieve. No way Indiana should've won 60 games with such a weak offense.
    weak offense?


    carlisle prides himself in defense.


    and no thats not an underrated team.

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    Avery BLOWS. That guy has no business being a NBA coach. He sucked as a PG too. Oh I forgot, he was the PG that "lead" the Spews to a * le. A 50 game sprint with David Robinson and Timmmmay and finished off the 8th seed Knicks lead by Sprewell.

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    weak offense?


    carlisle prides himself in defense.


    and no thats not an underrated team.
    Artest sucks on offense. O'Neal is also overrated on offense. They both are volume shooters that don't shoot a high percentage. Indiana didn't have a true point guard or true center. Carlisle got that team to overachieve by making them a great defensive team.

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    Then what was with the reports in Dallas that Avery and Cuban got in a fight with Avery defending harris?
    It was over Brandon Bass' playing time, not Harris and his role on the team.

    All you dallasians need to get on the same page with your stories.
    Why don't you stick to the Spurs forum? I know more about my team than you do.

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    Seriously, Avery beats the Spurs in a game 7 after giving up a 3-1 series lead, AND he had help from Manu. And automatically he's a great coach? That single moment was the highlight of his coaching career, and that was the only playoff accomplishment he had. And don't give me the Suns WCF bull cause they got a friendly side of the bracket due to stuid ass seeding rules that year.

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    Even without the Jason Kidd trade, the Mavs would have been out of the playoffs in the second round. No team with Dirk Nowitzki, Josh Howard, and Jason Terry as it's core players will ever win a championship.

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    Avery lobbied hard for the Kidd trade and then washed his hands of the results after it was apparent that it was not a good move. And the Lakers were never willing to deal Kobe for Dirk. It doesn't take a genius to be in favor of that move.

    Guess who else is relieved that he was given a pink slip? The entire Mavs organization and its fans.
    Exactly. That's Avery the politician talking again and the contradictory personality that is him. He was ABSOLUTELY leading the charge for the Kidd trade. He rode Devin Harris' ass every day the kid was in a Mavs uniform. Complained to the media that Harris wasn't developing fast enough for his taste. Then politicked to move him out . Funny thing is, Harris was in the midst of his best statistical season when he left. Then he gets Kidd on board and what does he do? Alienates him by sitting him out the last few minutes of a tight ball game. Forces him to run a slow down, set offense.

    I've said all along that AJ is full of . This is another in a long list of reasons why.
    I can't believe so many Mav Fans/AJ Haters buy the all the crap from Cuban and the Dallas media. Of course they are going to blame AJ for everything. That's both Cuban's and the Dallas media's MO.

    We'll see in the coming years how smart it was to dump AJ.

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    I can't believe so many Mav Fans/AJ Haters buy the all the crap from Cuban and the Dallas media. Of course they are going to blame AJ for everything. That's both Cuban's and the Dallas media's MO.

    We'll see in the coming years how smart it was to dump AJ.
    The Mavs don't have a championship roster, this year or last. Whether their coach is Sloan, Jackzen or Pop, or Avery or Carlisle doesn't change that. Avery is a very good coach who lost the locker room. It happens to every single coach in the league not named Sloan, Jackzen or Pop. That's partly his fault and partly the fault of his players. It was time for a change. I never said Avery was solely at fault for the failure of the Mavericks to close the deal the past three years. That said, his firing was the right move at the right time.

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    Probably. It's obvious coaching isn't his forte.
    Yeah, that .734 win % sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it?

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    Yeah, that .734 win % sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it?
    This team was ready for a championship if they had the right coach. Avery wasn't it though. Now, they are older. Carlisle has to win with a weaker team than what Avery had.

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    avery was not the problem


    its that pussyfied excuse of an athlete named dirk and that dumb ass star spangled banner hating j-ho


    idiots
    I don't even like Avery, and I see this as the problem, too. Your franchise player has to have balls, not run home and cry to mama when they lose. It's not only about talent, it's about balls and heart, and Dirk lacks both.

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    This team was ready for a championship if they had the right coach. Avery wasn't it though. Now, they are older. Carlisle has to win with a weaker team than what Avery had.
    Who got them ready?

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    Who got them ready?
    Don Nelson in 2004-2005. Avery took over and ed up Dirk's best years.

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    Yeah, that .734 win % sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it?

    LMAO yeah he was given such a squad when he took over. How did he ever do it?

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    IMO, Carslile is a great coach, but not a championship caliber coach. And as far as being anal on defense, I think both Carslile and Avery are about the same.
    Don't forget that Carslile built the Pistons that won a championship (with the exception of Rasheed), but he couldn't get them over the hump. Cue in Larry Brown for back to back final appearances, with a championship in the first season.

    But we'll see. I'm with timvp in that you're going to look back in a few years and think different about that Avery run.

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    IMO, Carslile is a great coach, but not a championship caliber coach. And as far as being anal on defense, I think both Carslile and Avery are about the same.
    Don't forget that Carslile built the Pistons that won a championship (with the exception of Rasheed), but he couldn't get them over the hump. Cue in Larry Brown for back to back final appearances, with a championship in the first season.

    But we'll see. I'm with timvp in that you're going to look back in a few years and think different about that Avery run.
    Oh brother....... Nobody is going to look back and think AJ did a good job. The guy is a clown.

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    Don Nelson in 2004-2005. Avery took over and ed up Dirk's best years.
    Don Nelson never led anyone anywhere except to first round upsets. He plays gimmick ball that flames out after a round or two in the playoffs. I see lots of complaints about AJ starting George in the one round of the playoffs. Nelson would have started him every game of every season and every round of every playoffs.

    Dallas was an easy playoff mark under Nelson.

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    Don Nelson never led anyone anywhere except to first round upsets. He plays gimmick ball that flames out after a round or two in the playoffs. I see lots of complaints about AJ starting George in the one round of the playoffs. Nelson would have started him every game of every season and every round of every playoffs.


    Exactly the point moron. If George was starting the entire season, Nelson wouldn't have his pants in fear of an 8th seed. He'd start the same team that won him 67 games.

    Saint Avery.

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    LMAO yeah he was given such a squad when he took over. How did he ever do it?
    Don Nelson's best season in Dallas was 60 wins. AJ averaged that over his 3.5 years. It's called going to the next level.

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    neat. where'd that get him?

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