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    Heh.

    Do all Democrats vote for Obama and do All Republicans vote for McCain? Are the weights off in each of these states by that ratio? Do you have any proof the Bradley Effect still exsists?

    No. The answer to everyone of these questions is no.

    First of all, Obama is getting more of the GOP's votes and more of the Independents votes than McCain. Therefore your attempt to reweight the polls is so mathematically stupid its funny.

    Secondly, different states have different percentages of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans. Your blanket weighting is re ed as .

    Third, there is ample proof from the ing primary election if nothing else that there is no bradley effect. In fact, you can almost be assured the polls are not measuring African American turnout are underestimating it just like in the primaries. The result? A REVERSE bradley effect where Obama out performs the polls.

    Sorry to have interupted your bad points with facts.
    OK Chump. If you say so.

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    OK Chump. If you say so.
    Manny is way more knowledgeable about this stuff than I, and your thinking we are the same person is just more evidence that you have lost it.

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    First of all, in the professional environment I work in, I'm not accustom to people questioning my integrity.
    Integrity is proof of character, not an en lement or perk that comes with a job. That you are offended that someone would question it is a result of mere vanity.

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    Professionals can support their assertions with facts.

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    OK Chump. If you say so.
    I'm sorry for providing you with legitimate questions. I know you want to believe things are a certain way, but why bother making things up that aren't supported by facts? What will you say November 5?

    Its no skin off my back if people like you continue to view these indicators as skewed in favor of Obama and its not skin off my back if you continue to make assertions that have absolutely no basis in reality.

    Just realize that you can't spin the results on November 5 the way you try to skew these polls


    If you take the election results and multiply them by 1.229480984 and 2.34343 you see that Obama actually lost

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    Just realize that you can't spin the results on November 5 the way you try to skew these polls
    You know he is going to cry a river and claim massive fraud on November 5th, I know he is going to cry a river and claim massive fraud on November 5th, he knows he is going to cry a river and claim massive fraud on November 5th and won't admit it, even people he agrees with knows he is going to do it, even if they don't admit it.

    The whole thing is just a fig leaf for naked, ugly partisan lawsuits that will and attempting to disenfranchise as many Democrats as possible.

    If I forgot to put my apartment number on a registration form, or accidentally transposed a digit or two in my address, and then had a fair mistake suddenly become "you can't vote, sorry", I would be pissed.

    Republicans might gain some short-term gains by these lawsuits, but you can be damned certain that, if they actually won them, they would instantly be creating an army of highly-motivated people/volunteers dedicated to defeating Republicans, and turn off a LOT of independents.

    After years of seeing the Dems shoot themselves in the foot, it is nice to see the Republicans doing the same thing.

    Keep it up, assholes.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    Professionals can support their assertions with facts.
    That makes me want to link the thread where WC stated "teen pregnancy rates are higher today than they were 30 years ago, 'cause I know" and then have to explain the data I found from multiple sources that directly contradicts that statement, and why he couldn't/didn't find any data that backed him up.

    "but, but, but, but, but..."

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    If I walked in with my Flozell Adams registration card and was told "you can't vote, sorry.", I'd be pissed.

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    Integrity is proof of character, not an en lement or perk that comes with a job. That you are offended that someone would question it is a result of mere vanity.

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    The way polls are currently sampled, you can take the democrat number and multiply by 0.906 and take the republican number and multiply by 1.106.
    I have a car for sale. The Blue book value is listed at $4,750. But if I multiply that figure by 1.748 to adjust for future fluctuations in automotive coeval dissipation variants, its true value is $8,303. Anyone interested?

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    Pollsters switch to likely voters at this point in the election. And the number of fradulent registrations is very low, so thanks for making a tiny Acorn molehill into a mountain. How do the pollsters get Daffy Duck and Mickey Mouse to express a preference for President?

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    cobra has in his mouth

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    I have a car for sale. The Blue book value is listed at $4,750. But if I multiply that figure by 1.748 to adjust for future fluctuations in automotive coeval dissipation variants, its true value is $8,303. Anyone interested?
    Maybe stupid people who bought houses before the bubble burst are. I wonder if they learned their lssons yet.

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    I'm sorry for providing you with legitimate questions. I know you want to believe things are a certain way, but why bother making things up that aren't supported by facts? What will you say November 5?

    Its no skin off my back if people like you continue to view these indicators as skewed in favor of Obama and its not skin off my back if you continue to make assertions that have absolutely no basis in reality.

    Just realize that you can't spin the results on November 5 the way you try to skew these polls
    You answered your only question asked. What's the big deal. I stated one fact and stated in essence I extrapolated the rest. You guys are so foolish to say I'm wrong. Of course I could be. You guys are like the 5 year old who is just so amazed at a situation, that's all he talks about for weeks. Please grow up.

    And yes, I already said we will find out in November. I trust my position, but yes. I am wrong at times.

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    You answered your only question asked. What's the big deal. I stated one fact and stated in essence I extrapolated the rest. You guys are so foolish to say I'm wrong. Of course I could be. You guys are like the 5 year old who is just so amazed at a situation, that's all he talks about for weeks. Please grow up.

    And yes, I already said we will find out in November. I trust my position, but yes. I am wrong at times.
    Its that your extrapolation is fundamentally flawed and you just ignore that.

    Thats not extrapolation, that is wishful thinking. Indulge in it all you want, but if you do it on the message board prepare for it to be called out. Maybe when you get tired of people calling you out for that you'll stop doing it. Until then deal with it. If you want a place to simply air your views with no discussion then I propose you write a blog and turn off the comments but to complain that people call out your foolish methods when you post them on a discussion forum then I think you sound like a whiny baby who's upset that no one simply takes his word for it when he rants.

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    They sure are, but not purposely. With so many new fraudulent democrat registrations, polling places are over sampling democrats. I read someplace that the poll takers are going by the numbers of registered voters, and that there are now so many more democrats than republicans. As a result, the polls are wrong. This will make the Obama campaign focus less on states they cannot afford to, and the reverse for republicans. This will probably help bring a republican majority in too!
    So...the Republicans have the Democrats right where they want them? Have you shared this information with the McCain campaign? They appear to be conceding Colorado, New Mexico, and Iowa. You need to tell them about your super-fantastic corrections before they act out of haste without having the advantage of your keen insight.

    Also, you need to let Congressional Republicans know that they will have a majority if they just stay in it. Florida Republicans are already deferring money for 2010. You need to tell them that they get to multiply their polls numbers and divide the Democratic poll numbers.

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    Anyone else think Wild Cobra is an act and by being an act he in essence is winning? No way someone could be this stupid on purpose for so long.

    He's like the political Kill Bill.

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    Well, we will see if I'm wrong in November, right?
    Of course, when like this happens, and the Republicans are shown to be doing exactly what Democrats say they are, i.e. using this as a thin excuse deny minorities and poor people the right to vote because those people might not vote Republican, that won't backfire:

    As if you needed any more evidence that the Republican effort to tout voter fraud is less about legitimate claims and more about a political agenda, consider this sequence of events:

    Last week, as we noted at the time, the New Mexico GOP had publicly claimed that 28 people voted fraudulently in the Democratic primary, held in June, for a local race.

    Then this morning, the RNC sent out a press release announcing a 3pm conference call with reporters "on the recent developments in New Mexico regarding ACORN."

    But at 11am, ACORN -- the community organizing group that Republicans have been trying lately to turn into a voter fraud boogeyman -- held a conference call of its own, asserting that local election officials had confirmed that the 28 people in question, mostly low-income Latinos, were valid voters.
    So here at TPMmuckraker, we wondered what the RNC's response to this would be. And on the 3pm call, we asked party spokesman Danny Diaz.

    Diaz dodged the question. He talked about an incident with ACORN in Washington state, then referred us to an October 9th Wall Street Journal story, which did not address the allegation made last week by the state GOP about fraudulent voting in the Democratic primary. (Instead, it reported that the FBI had opened a preliminary investigation into thousands of fraudulent registration forms submitted in an area near an ACORN office.)

    When we tried to follow up, Diaz cut us off and shifted the discussion toward a general attack on ACORN for submitting fraudulent registrations.

    In other words, it looks like the RNC had scheduled a call to tout evidence of voter fraud -- not voter registration fraud, mind you, but actual voter fraud -- being perpetrated by ACORN in New Mexico. But when ACORN appeared to come up with compelling evidence that no such fraud had occurred, the RNC held the call anyway, simply shifting the focus to other vague allegations against ACORN -- then refused to address the New Mexico situation when asked.

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    Because Republicans like to think Americans are too stupid to notice things like that.

    Sorry Charlie. Just because this bull plays well with the party cool-aid afficianados, doesn't mean that the independents who really decide elections can't tell the difference.

    That is why people like WC fail, and why the Republican party fails.

    I might trust him to measure the moles of O2 in a given liter of atmosphere at sea level, but when it comes to anything that requires actual critical thinking or analysis, anybody but him can see that his confirmation bias consistently leads him to erroneous conclusions, and this thread is yet another example of that.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    Anyone else think Wild Cobra is an act and by being an act he in essence is winning? No way someone could be this stupid on purpose for so long.

    He's like the political Kill Bill.
    No. Unfortunately people like him and whottt have the same number of votes that I do.

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