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    I didn't say Obama was the anti Christ- only that he COULD be and that time would prove it one way or the other.

    I am just saying that I am watching Senator Obama- very carefully.


    The Anti Christ is going to be someone that is well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome.
    The Anti Christ will be convincing and a humanitarian.
    Not until later in his reign will the Anti Christ show his true colors and prove to be the villian that he is.

    What concerns me about Obama is 1) how he appears to be so easily and widespread received as a political savior
    and 2) the instances in which Obama subtly undermines the Truth of the Bible while appearing to embrace it.

    I offer this example of the latter:

    Obama writes in his book, The Audacity of Hope, "I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
    You cannot pick and choose portions of the Scripture to embrace. Either God's Word is ALL true or it is a lie.

    In the above referenced verses, we are not even talking about Old Testament vs New Testament.
    Senator Obama does not even have the faith to take the entire New Testament as it is written.

    Yet Senator Obama is willing to reference to parts of it such as the Sermon on the Mount that he knows most everyone will find palatable.

    You may all think I am crazy.
    But at least you can know I am not a liar because I tell you EXACTLY what I believe, regardless of how popular or unpopular my view is.

    Someone, someday WILL be the anti christ, so I am not sure why you find so shocking the fact that I am open to Obama proving to be he.
    Again, I admit nothing has been absolutely proven- yet.

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    Contrary to popular belief the popular vote DOES matter.
    Yes it does....intrastate.

    Not nationally.

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    I already told you that I cannot prove my strong su ions about Obama. Only time will tell if I am right or wrong.
    Then you are casting an uninformed vote. If you want to read up on his policy positions and his proposals, go to his website. Then you could at least cast a vote against him on the basis of not agreeing with his policy views. Sounds to me like "ACORN/Ayers/Anti-Americanism" has made you fearful of the scary black man. I'm not saying you're a racist, but you've obviously bought McCain's fear-mongering.



    Again let me stress, I do not like Senator McCain. I just disapprove of him less than I do Senator Obama.
    You do realize that John McCain could not care less about the issue of abortion, right? He's been at war with the evangelical base of the GOP until he ran for President and decided he couldn't win without their support.

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    He's not a CHRISTIAN!

    I don’t want someone with tainted… anything in beliefs, doing anything with my family!

    Darksided!

    Their entire house is darksided too!

    Everything’s un-Godly!

    Gargoyles!… Psychics!

    Get the out of my house- in Jesus’ name I pray!

    GET OUT!

    I give it up to God I’m a GOD WARRIOR!

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    yikes

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    I didn't say Obama was the anti Christ- only that he COULD be and that time would prove it one way or the other.

    I am just saying that I am watching Senator Obama- very carefully.

    The Anti Christ is going to be someone that is well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome.
    The Anti Christ will be convincing and a humanitarian.
    Not until later in his reign will the Anti Christ show his true colors and prove to be the villian that he is.
    Wow. I don't even know what to say to this. If it were anybody but angel luv, I'd tear them to shreds on this. But since she is respectful to other posters, I'll let it pass without comment.

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    I'm speechless

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    I didn't say Obama was the anti Christ- only that he COULD be and that time would prove it one way or the other.

    I am just saying that I am watching Senator Obama- very carefully.

    The Anti Christ is going to be someone that is well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome.
    The Anti Christ will be convincing and a humanitarian.
    Not until later in his reign will the Anti Christ show his true colors and prove to be the villian that he is.

    What concerns me about Obama is 1) how he appears to be so easily and widespread received as a political savior
    and 2) the instances in which Obama subtly undermines the Truth of the Bible while appearing to embrace it.

    I offer this example of the latter:



    You cannot pick and choose portions of the Scripture to embrace. Either God's Word is ALL true or it is a lie.

    In the above referenced verses, we are not even talking about Old Testament vs New Testament.
    Senator Obama does not even have the faith to take the entire New Testament as it is written.

    Yet Senator Obama is willing to reference to parts of it such as the Sermon on the Mount that he knows most everyone will find palatable.

    You may all think I am crazy.
    But at least you can know I am not a liar because I tell you EXACTLY what I believe, regardless of how popular or unpopular my view is.

    Someone, someday WILL be the anti christ, so I am not sure why you find so shocking the fact that I am open to Obama proving to be he.
    Again, I admit nothing has been absolutely proven- yet.
    Wow, just wow...

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    You may all think I am crazy.
    A little, yeah.

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    classic thread in the making

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    I didn't say Obama was the anti Christ- only that he COULD be and that time would prove it one way or the other.

    I am just saying that I am watching Senator Obama- very carefully.


    The Anti Christ is going to be someone that is well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome.
    The Anti Christ will be convincing and a humanitarian.
    Not until later in his reign will the Anti Christ show his true colors and prove to be the villian that he is.

    What concerns me about Obama is 1) how he appears to be so easily and widespread received as a political savior
    and 2) the instances in which Obama subtly undermines the Truth of the Bible while appearing to embrace it.

    I offer this example of the latter:



    You cannot pick and choose portions of the Scripture to embrace. Either God's Word is ALL true or it is a lie.

    In the above referenced verses, we are not even talking about Old Testament vs New Testament.
    Senator Obama does not even have the faith to take the entire New Testament as it is written.

    Yet Senator Obama is willing to reference to parts of it such as the Sermon on the Mount that he knows most everyone will find palatable.

    You may all think I am crazy.
    But at least you can know I am not a liar because I tell you EXACTLY what I believe, regardless of how popular or unpopular my view is.

    Someone, someday WILL be the anti christ, so I am not sure why you find so shocking the fact that I am open to Obama proving to be he.
    Again, I admit nothing has been absolutely proven- yet.
    You people will turn anything into the anti-christ. Disturbing views you god warriors harbor. Not everything has to have a label you know. Sometimes things in this world are random and spontaneous. To remove random and spontaneous in lue of good or bad is purely demented and probably clinically insane.

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    I have strong su ions that Senator Obama is the flying spaghetti monster. Until my su ions are addressed positively, I have no choice but to vote for Senator McCain.

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    I didn't say Obama was the anti Christ- only that he COULD be and that time would prove it one way or the other.

    I am just saying that I am watching Senator Obama- very carefully.


    The Anti Christ is going to be someone that is well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome.
    The Anti Christ will be convincing and a humanitarian.
    Not until later in his reign will the Anti Christ show his true colors and prove to be the villian that he is.

    What concerns me about Obama is 1) how he appears to be so easily and widespread received as a political savior
    and 2) the instances in which Obama subtly undermines the Truth of the Bible while appearing to embrace it.

    I offer this example of the latter:



    You cannot pick and choose portions of the Scripture to embrace. Either God's Word is ALL true or it is a lie.

    In the above referenced verses, we are not even talking about Old Testament vs New Testament.
    Senator Obama does not even have the faith to take the entire New Testament as it is written.

    Yet Senator Obama is willing to reference to parts of it such as the Sermon on the Mount that he knows most everyone will find palatable.

    You may all think I am crazy.
    But at least you can know I am not a liar because I tell you EXACTLY what I believe, regardless of how popular or unpopular my view is.

    Someone, someday WILL be the anti christ, so I am not sure why you find so shocking the fact that I am open to Obama proving to be he.
    Again, I admit nothing has been absolutely proven- yet.
    well SHUCKS!, guess I was wrong...

    Anyway, like I said, Angel's vote is her own and she is free to believe what she wants...

    Problem is, I'm dead certain there are millions that think like this, and that scares the living out of me to tell you the truth.

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    I have strong su ions that Senator Obama is the flying spaghetti monster. Until my su ions are addressed positively, I have no choice but to vote for Senator McCain.
    Can I categorize that as a 'strong gut-feeling'?

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    I didn't say Obama was the anti Christ- only that he COULD be and that time would prove it one way or the other.

    I am just saying that I am watching Senator Obama- very carefully.


    The Anti Christ is going to be someone that is well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome.
    The Anti Christ will be convincing and a humanitarian.
    Not until later in his reign will the Anti Christ show his true colors and prove to be the villian that he is.

    What concerns me about Obama is 1) how he appears to be so easily and widespread received as a political savior
    and 2) the instances in which Obama subtly undermines the Truth of the Bible while appearing to embrace it.

    I offer this example of the latter:



    You cannot pick and choose portions of the Scripture to embrace. Either God's Word is ALL true or it is a lie.

    In the above referenced verses, we are not even talking about Old Testament vs New Testament.
    Senator Obama does not even have the faith to take the entire New Testament as it is written.

    Yet Senator Obama is willing to reference to parts of it such as the Sermon on the Mount that he knows most everyone will find palatable.

    You may all think I am crazy.
    But at least you can know I am not a liar because I tell you EXACTLY what I believe, regardless of how popular or unpopular my view is.

    Someone, someday WILL be the anti christ, so I am not sure why you find so shocking the fact that I am open to Obama proving to be he.
    Again, I admit nothing has been absolutely proven- yet.
    This makes me sad.

    Doesn't the Bible contradict itself in many places? Doesn't the old testament have a bunch of old laws that aren't followed anymore (stoning women, not touching women on their period etc.) Aren't you just picking and choosing what scriptures you want by doing that?

    Fundamentalism scares the out of me, regardless of the religion.

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    I wasn't joking Manny. I have an authentic concern about Senator Obama.

    I hope I am wrong but I can't just take your guys' word for it.

    Knowing the truth is a way greater priority to me than whether or not you guys think I am crazy in the process of discovering it.

    Rest assured, when I am sure one way or the other, I will glady post it.

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    so according to angel we must be su ious of all well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome people.

    BEWARE!



    what a crazy way to live life

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    Angel,

    I can assure you that Obama is not the anti-Christ.


    That job is already taken.


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    well SHUCKS!, guess I was wrong...

    Anyway, like I said, Angel's vote is her own and she is free to believe what she wants...

    Problem is, I'm dead certain there are millions that think like this, and that scares the living out of me to tell you the truth.
    you can bet your ass that there are millions that think like this.

    and they will all be voting for mccain.

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    Someone, someday WILL be the anti christ, so I am not sure why you find so shocking the fact that I am open to Obama proving to be he.
    Again, I admit nothing has been absolutely proven- yet.
    Youre going to have more than enough people pouncing all over you for this, so I'll stick to the thing that stuck out to me.

    There will never be a born-to-be Anti-Christ like you believe. There will never be a child with the mark of the beast. You know why? Because youre taking it entirely to literally, which is sad really.

    Think of the antiChrist as a metaphor (like most of the Bible is).

    The antiChrist can be many things to many people. My personal antiChrist will be the guy/gal who actually starts and ends WW3.

    Think of the "Mark of the Beast" as a metaphor.

    Could be different things to different people. There are people right now who claim to know who the antiChrist is and what the mark of the beast looks like.

    Are they wrong? Who the cares, is the better question.

    The end-all, be-all subject for some is not the same for all. There are people who bomb abortion clinics and feel morally justified doing so. There are people who feel Israel is mark of stain on the world and kill themselves in the streets trying to take as many Israelis with them in the process.

    They think the star of David is the mark of the beast.

    Point is, youre voting with your heart and not your head. Thats your right.

    But I would strongly urge you to remove your moral convictions from the equation....but I doubt you can do that. Most fathful people cant. Thats called indoctrination.

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    I wasn't joking Manny. I have an authentic concern about Senator Obama.

    I hope I am wrong but I can't just take your guys' word for it.

    Knowing the truth is a way greater priority to me than whether or not you guys think I am crazy in the process of discovering it.

    Rest assured, when I am sure one way or the other, I will glady post it.
    How do you propose to find out whether Obama (or anyone for that matter) is the anti-christ? Are you Van Helsing or something?

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    This makes me sad.

    Doesn't the Bible contradict itself in many places? Doesn't the old testament have a bunch of old laws that aren't followed anymore (stoning women, not touching women on their period etc.) Aren't you just picking and choosing what scriptures you want by doing that?

    Fundamentalism scares the out of me, regardless of the religion.
    Take how the Bible arrives at the conclusion that sexuality is a sin.

    Jesus says nothing about same-sex behavior.

    The Jewish prophets are silent about sexuality.

    Only six or seven of the Bible's one million verses refer to same-sex behavior in any way -- and none of these verses refer to sexual orientation as it's understood today.

    There's that story of Lot offering up his wife and daughter for gang rape to an angry mob so they won't buttrape his son instead. THAT'S how they come to the conclusion that sexuality is bad. But here's what I take from that story at face value -

    Sodomy
    gang rape of females

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    Youre going to have more than enough people pouncing all over you for this, so I'll stick to the thing that stuck out to me.

    There will never be a born-to-be Anti-Christ like you believe. There will never be a child with the mark of the beast. You know why? Because youre taking it entirely to literally, which is sad really.

    Think of the antiChrist as a metaphor (like most of the Bible is).

    The antiChrist can be many things to many people. My personal antiChrist will be the guy/gal who actually starts and ends WW3.

    Think of the "Mark of the Beast" as a metaphor.

    Could be different things to different people. There are people right now who claim to know who the antiChrist is and what the mark of the beast looks like.

    Are they wrong? Who the cares, is the better question.

    The end-all, be-all subject for some is not the same for all. There are people who bomb abortion clinics and feel morally justified doing so. There are people who feel Israel is mark of stain on the world and kill themselves in the streets trying to take as many Israelis with them in the process.

    They think the star of David is the mark of the beast.

    Point is, youre voting with your heart and not your head. Thats your right.

    But I would strongly urge you to remove your moral convictions from the equation....but I doubt you can do that. Most fathful people cant. Thats called indoctrination.
    I'll go ahead and cut you off at the start of this. She doesn't believe it's a metaphor. She believes the Bible (all of it) is literal.

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    so according to angel we must be su ious of all well spoken, well liked, charismatic, impressive and likely handsome people.

    BEWARE!



    what a crazy way to live life
    According to this theory her boyfriend is the anti-crist.

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    How do you propose to find out whether Obama (or anyone for that matter) is the anti-christ? Are you Van Helsing or something?
    Alright, alright....I admit, I laughed my ass off. OKay? Damn you OG.

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