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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Jesus is the only payment for that sin.
    Bingo. With us or against us. No in between.

    Jesus either died for your sins and you ackowledge this fact, or when you die youre somewhere other than heaven. (quick question, did I use "than" right there?)

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    so you would have voted for Hitler huh?
    If you're insinuating Hiltler was a Christian then you need to spend less time on liberal blogs and more time in real history books.

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    my mom is the most devout christian I ever met. She always tries to feed me bible verses and spends 90% of her time devoting her time to Jesus and the Bible.

    And even her would pat Angel Luv on the head and ask her "have you taken your medication yet honey?"

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    Is this some crackpot stuff or what? I mean, is this really the 21st Century?

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    It's not brain science.

    If Jesus is the only payment for that sin, then the millions of people on this planet who follow non-Christian religions are just ed in the afterlife.
    As were all the people who died before Jesus did.

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    I remember Bobcat Goldwaith declaring Scott Baio the anti-christ back in the 80s. Can there be more than one?

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    my mom is the most devout christian I ever met. She always tries to feed me bible verses and spends 90% of her time devoting her time to Jesus and the Bible.

    And even her would pat Angel Luv on the head and ask her "have you taken your medication yet honey?"

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    If its real, no interpretation is needed or required. None. The words mean exactly as they say. The only way to salvation/heaven is thru Jesus. There is no other way. PERIOD.
    Christianity does indeed make that exclusive claim. It does not necessarily follow that Christians therefore believe that they are superior to unbelievers. Doctrinally that assertion would be false. If a Christian really understands the Gospel, he should be the humblest person on Earth.

    In reality, there are a lot of supposed Christians who play the holier-than-thou game.

    On the other hand, I sometimes struggle to understand why people who recoil from the God of the Bible nevertheless take offense at the idea that they might have to stay away from him for eternity. Wouldn't that be your preference?

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    you still don't get it. Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. Accepting that sacrifice is the only acceptable punishment for our sins.

    It's the most tolerant and loving sacrifice ever. That means we don't have to win good favor and salvation is available to everyone.

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    I don't have all the answers. I may not even have most of them.

    All I can tell you is that Jesus is the Savior of the world- the only one that has existed and the only one that will ever exist.

    Futhermore, if you really want real and lasting positive change in your lives, this country, and in the world, you all need to look to Jesus- not to President Bush, not to Senator McCain, and not Senator Obama, Oprah, or Dr. Phil.

    Anyone who claims that they can fix your life for you is a liar. The best any man can do is lead his fellowmen to Jesus- the ONE and ONLY Answer.

    I tell you all this not to judge any of you but because I care about what happens to you and I have a responsibility before God to tell you the Truth as it is written in the Bible.

    I regret that this conversation ever turned to Senator Obama and the possibility of him being the Anti Christ because what matters most and is ultimately most effective is to exalt the Truth, not wasting time contemplating.

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    In what ways has it been proven? I sincerely do want to know.



    That quote I posted, Senator Obama's own words from his own book " Audacity of Hope" is all I have to go by concerning the Senator's opinion about the Bible.


    Again, if you have actual Obama quotes FROM Senator Obama about his faith, please post them. I would like to read them.

    This is from an article that covered the meeting Obama and McCain had with Pastor Rick Warren:

    "In several cases, Obama gave a Christian interpretation to his generally liberal political views. He showed some familiarity with the Scripture, and said Jesus died for his sins."

    "Obama said America’s greatest moral failure is its insufficient help to the disadvantaged. He noted that the Bible quotes Jesus as saying “whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.” He said the maxim should apply to victims of poverty, sexism and racism."

    Here's the link:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26220920/


    Stop with your foolishness.

    It's a shame that people like you think this way. I know your church has brainwashed you to believe what you have written. But, that's no excuse for this egregious ignorance.

    It's depressing that you would have these views.

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    My invisible god is better than your invisible god. So there.

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    On the other hand, I sometimes struggle to understand why people who recoil from the God of the Bible nevertheless take offense at the idea that they might have to stay away from him for eternity. Wouldn't that be your preference?
    I'm not bothered by the fact that I'm not getting past the bouncer, but I am bothered by having that fact repeatedly thrown in my face as a threat.

    Just as I'm sure many Christians are bothered by being called mindless sheep by pushy atheists.

    Divisive rhetoric = bad.

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    I regret that this conversation ever turned to Senator Obama and the possibility of him being the Anti Christ because what matters most and is ultimately most effective is to exalt the Truth, not wasting time contemplating.


    angel sweetheart, you're a ing nutjob

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    I think Rasho Nesterovic might actually be the anti-Christ. I'm sure he's well-spoken in Slovenian; he's tall and handsome; there are thousands of people who come to watch him everytime he performs. Until it's proven otherwise, I'm fundamentally convinced that Rasho Nesterovic is simply waiting to reveal his real self.


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    I think Rasho Nesterovic might actually be the anti-Christ. I'm sure he's well-spoken in Slovenian; he's tall and handsome; there are thousands of people who come to watch him everytime he performs. Until it's proven otherwise, I'm fundamentally convinced that Rasho Nesterovic is simply waiting to reveal his real self.


    Why hasn't he cleared up if he's not the anti-christ yet? Hmmmm?

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    This is from an article that covered the meeting Obama and McCain had with Pastor Rick Warren:

    "In several cases, Obama gave a Christian interpretation to his generally liberal political views. He showed some familiarity with the Scripture, and said Jesus died for his sins."

    "Obama said America’s greatest moral failure is its insufficient help to the disadvantaged. He noted that the Bible quotes Jesus as saying “whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.” He said the maxim should apply to victims of poverty, sexism and racism."

    Here's the link:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26220920/

    I appreciate the link. Thank you.

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    It's not brain science.

    If Jesus is the only payment for that sin, then the millions of people on this planet who follow non-Christian religions are just ed in the afterlife. "They" don't get into heaven, "we" do.
    how do you suppose to pay for sin? I believe it's only through accepting the payment that has already been made on our behalf.

    If you think that divides us up into teams sobeit, but I don't see it that way. Who am I to judge another?

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    I can only vote for one of them. I have to take a risk on someone.
    By electing someone president I am putting a lot of power in someone's hands.

    Am I convinced Senator McCain will be a great steward of the power?
    Unfortunately, no.
    However I feel that while it is likely that Senator Obama will misuse the power given him, it is possible that Senator McCain will be a decent ( again, decent, not great) president.

    This election for me is about damage control. I think Senator McCain will do this country less harm than Senator Obama would.
    How is McCain decent?

    Explain that.

    He left his wife for a better looking piece of ass. He supports propagating a war that was based on lies. A war that gets thousands of people killed.

    Killed, Angel.

    How would Jesus feel about people getting killed. Was Jesus a war monger?

    Was he?

    How the do you come up with McCain being decent?

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    I think Rasho Nesterovic might actually be the anti-Christ. I'm sure he's well-spoken in Slovenian; he's tall and handsome; there are thousands of people who come to watch him everytime he performs. Until it's proven otherwise, I'm fundamentally convinced that Rasho Nesterovic is simply waiting to reveal his real self.

    It was almost worth this thread to get you to admit that Rasho is handsome.

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    ATRAIN is gay peewee's lovechild's Avatar
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    Non-Christians have been President and I for one think that our country and the world has suffered as a result.
    You're talking out of your ass.

    You don't know jack about this country's history.

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    I'm not bothered by the fact that I'm not getting past the bouncer, but I am bothered by having that fact repeatedly thrown in my face as a threat.
    no one should be threatening you. however, I do think you're gambling, but I'll leave it at that. I would still buy you a beer and never bring up the topic again, unless you brought it up first of course.

    Just as I'm sure many Christians are bothered by being called mindless sheep by pushy atheists.

    Divisive rhetoric = bad.

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    You're talking out of your ass.

    You don't know jack about this country's history.
    I think she's thinking in her terms and what she defines as Christianity. At least I hope that's what she meant.

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    I'm not bothered by the fact that I'm not getting past the bouncer, but I am bothered by having that fact repeatedly thrown in my face as a threat.

    Just as I'm sure many Christians are bothered by being called mindless sheep by pushy atheists.

    Divisive rhetoric = bad.
    Well, according to the Bible, the hate-filled person who thinks he can judge your eternal destiny gets the "talk to the hand" treatment himself from the IC/XC.

    On the other hand, I get a LOT more of the "Admit I'm going to ! Admit I'm going to , you mindless sheep!" treatment than the "As long as you aren't throwing it in my face, whatever" treatment. When the former say it themselves, what's left to admit?

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    Jesus is the only payment for that sin.
    So, for the billions of people that have lived and die, and continue to do so, without accepting this jesus character . . . they're ed?

    What kind of sadistic god is this thing you worship?

    The problem with you people is that you want to belong to a "Members Only" club.

    Your type of mentality, as well as those of your ilk, is what keeps humanity from progressing.

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