Your Vote, Your Reasons

[MannyIsGod]

Oh dude I don't care - I just just making a joke. This thread has already bounced off a load of walls might as well take it everywhere.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

You haven't been here very long, but I think you will soon see that many threads in the political forum quickly dissolve into a dozen rapid-fire posts that say 1) you your (sic) an idiot, 2) Oh yeah STFU you dumb 3) you ya pole-smoking 4) youre a moron i hope get cancer, etc., etc... The thread you jumped in on was astonishingly free of nastiness by comparison and full of passionate opinions. That's where my comment stemmed from.

Yeah, I was already welcomed by whott in another thread. I just have a knee-jerk reaction to people who admonish name-calling, but champion a religious person's right to tell me I'm going to . I'm a that way.

Btw, I'll take this opportunity to use Whitman & inson as a contradiction to your O. Wilde quote... tho I do find him very entertaining as a 19th century Paul Lynde.

Welcome again. I think you're a great addition to the fray.

Did you seriously just try to pwn me with circle-gets-the-square? lol

I maintain that barbaric yawps are their own form of decadence. And I don't talk about Emily. She annoys me

[RandomGuy]

Welcome to a post-culture war America. We can all get along and merely disagree instead of demonizing each other.

Only the anti-christ would say something like that.

[DWest30]

Only the anti-christ would say something like that.

wasntmenobodysawmedoityoucantproveanything...

[RandomGuy]

Oh dude I don't care - I just just making a joke. This thread has already bounced off a load of walls might as well take it everywhere.

I know you were mostly joking, but I do have a bad habit of bringing that up in places where it isn't really germane.

[Tully365]

Yeah, I was already welcomed by whott in another thread. I just have a knee-jerk reaction to people who admonish name-calling, but champion a religious person's right to tell me I'm going to . I'm a that way.

Did you seriously just try to pwn me with circle-gets-the-square? lol

I maintain that barbaric yawps are their own form of decadence. And I don't talk about Emily. She annoys me

Nice internal rhyme of whottt and in that first paragraph.

I'd call A. Ginsberg's derivative yarps decadent (i'd go as far to say totally unnecessary since people should be reading his citymate Frank O'hara much more anyway) but not Whitman. Emily's style predates and anticipates The Kinks and later punk rock, so she deserves props, c'mon.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

Does anyone else just keep going back to Bartleby's post on Page 1 of this thread and get the giggles all over again? Seriously, he had to think it was a rhetorical question.

[DWest30]

Does anyone else just keep going back to Bartleby's post on Page 1 of this thread and get the giggles all over again? Seriously, he had to think it was a rhetorical question.

32 pages later, I think he deserves an award.

[Extra Stout]

Big props to 101A and ES for stating their take on the election.

Its weird, I am constantly called a liberal here, yet I have almost universally agreed with 2 conservatives on almost every issue of (my personal) importance (abortion just doesnt rank for me, ES).

Could it be *GASP* that we are not all so entirely different as our country says we are? Nah, that cant be it. You guys are different because I was told so, and thats that.

I'm pretty sure I've apostasized from conservatism. Last week, someone called me a liberal communist sympathizer because I said that if Obama were elected, I wasn't going to pull the "he's not my President" card or call him "that n***** in the White House." So I'm out of the club. I am basically a pro-life moderate now, still slowly trending leftward.

Somewhere back there conservatism changed.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

Emily's style predates and anticipates The Kinks and later punk rock, so she deserves props, c'mon.

You're one of those guys that likes girls all Bell Jarish, aren't you?

[Shastafarian]

You're one of those guys that likes girls all Bell Jarish, aren't you?

You're not one of those "Obama is the anti-Christ" people, are you?

Uh oh...

[Tully365]

You're one of those guys that likes girls all Bell Jarish, aren't you?

You are wrong there sister-- never liked Sylvia. Tho, of course, I am happy allowing her to say her crazy stuff, me being so openminded...

[DWest30]

I'm pretty sure I've apostasized from conservatism. Last week, someone called me a liberal communist sympathizer because I said that if Obama were elected, I wasn't going to pull the "he's not my President" card or call him "that n***** in the White House." So I'm out of the club. I am basically a pro-life moderate now, still slowly trending leftward.

Somewhere back there conservatism changed.

Youre not trending leftward. The far right keeps pulling the goalpost towards them and away from you. Its the political Doppler Effect in action.

[Tully365]

Uh oh...

here we go again! Pandora's box #2!

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

You are wrong there sister-- never liked Sylvia. Tho, of course, I am happy allowing her to say her crazy stuff, me being so openminded...

[Tully365]

The more I read this stuff the more I wonder if Angel Luv masterbates.

i gotta admit-- I literally laughed out loud at this.

[Jesus]

Angelluv has my vote.

[BacktoBasics]

i gotta admit-- I literally laughed out loud at this.

I don't know what I'd do if I lost the ability to jerk off or worse could still jerk off but believe I would go to for it.

[LnGrrrR]

If God is God, then he is a first cause. If he is a first cause, then there is nothing that comes before him. If nothing comes before him, then time cannot come before him. If God comes before time, then he is not necessarily subject to it.

We define causality in terms of causes coming before effects. To say that a cause comes before an effect is to make a statement in time. If God is not subject to time, then a statement in time does not necessarily apply to him.

If God is a first cause, then all other things are effects of that cause. But if statements in time do not apply to time, then we cannot conclude that effects come after his causation in time. Ergo, temporal causality does not apply to God.


If temporal causality does not apply to God, then the effects of his causation can be in the past, present, or future.

Wow. Those are some huge leaps right there. (I'd like to throw out here that quantum physics is punching huge holes in the idea of causality, but that's a separate topic.)

If temporal causality does not apply to God, then how can he act on it? How can he CAUSE differences in temporality without temporality acting on his being? It's a version of the mind/body problem.

[DWest30]

i gotta admit-- I literally laughed out loud at this.

I think she'd be kinda fun to have around under the influence of some shrooms.

[BacktoBasics]

I think she'd be kinda fun to have around under the influence of some shrooms.

:giggles: like on a pizza mmmm good

sin,

Angel Warrior

[Shastafarian]

I don't know what I'd do if I lost the ability to jerk off or worse could still jerk off but believe I would go to for it.

Does this mean you'd do it anyway?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

This year, more than I can ever remember, we needed ANOTHER choice. The party in power was doomed; the party "out of power"; is really only out of power in a single office; and they are about to complete the trifecta. They are most likely going to obtain a fillibuster proof Senate.

A vote for McCain, IMO, is wasted; he has no chance. The best my vote can do this year is register a "none of the above". I will vote for Barr.

I am apprehensive as about what a Congress that is THAT far to the left can do in the two years before the (relatively much more conservative) population register buyer's remose. Obama's platform doesn't scare me; it is moderate and reasonable. Congress, on the other hand, will probably not be so. The Speaker of the House is from San Francisco for goodness sake!

The Congress WILL pass legislation to allow Unions to hold "signature" elections; meaning employee's votes will be public; at least to the Union organizers. How this is anything BUT against free-will is completely beyond me. It is wrong - but our new Congress will pass it. I don't know if Obama will sign it.

The "Fairness Doctrine" will be reinstated - and enhanced. Station's licenses will be up for renewal every TWO, and not EIGHT years. The party in power RIGHT NOW can threten your license if you don't adhere to their definition of "fairness". Scary stuff.

I watched the PBS biography on LBJ this week, and watched his speaches for the "Great Society". HIS plans were going to eliminate poverty and would give healthcare to all. The opponents claimed that those programs, along with Social Security would eventually take up over 25% of the Federal Government's budget. These people were shouted down as being alarmist, racist, elitist, and wanting to keep the poor down. "Impossible" was the response to the claim of out of control costs for the program. Well, their is no less poverty now, and their is less movement out of it. And the programs, combined, do now account for more than 25% of the Federal Budget; in fact, it is nearly 50%; and climbing rapidly. The programs, passed as LBJ had designed them, have been abysmal failures based on what the politicians AT THE TIME claimed they were going to accomplish. They have not; and they are more expensive than ANYONE dreamed at the time. Any more of that is not a good thing, but I feel their is nothing to do to stop it.

Trust me, I am NOT arguing that the past 8 years have been fantastic, and I can give a litany of reasons Bush has completly failed. However, the tantrum this country is going to throw next Tuesday is response might be something we regret, well, forever. Eventually we WILL be out of Iraq. New govt. en lement programs, however, are forever. If Barrack is who he says he is, we could be alright. If he has run to the middle to get elected - and is going to return to the left once that is accomplished, we are probably ed.

there's only been 2 filibuster proof congresses. one at the start of The Great Depression and one at the start of the Great Society. hmmmmm. history is about to repeat itself.

[Tully365]

I don't know what I'd do if I lost the ability to jerk off or worse could still jerk off but believe I would go to for it.

I'm sure you'd find a way...

[cheguevara]

this thread is not much fun without a radical fundamentalist posting in it. We need to find another one ASAP