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well thats that, i guess i have to waive him from my 2k9 team too.
Spurs fall, waive Stoudamire .
Jeff McDonald - SAEN
Locker-by-locker, man-by-man, Salim Stoudamire limped around the Spurs’ locker room, giving hugs and handshakes to the players who had been his teammates for three weeks.
He had come to San Antonio in hopes of making the Spurs, in hopes of reviving an NBA career that had hit the skids in Atlanta.
This was farewell.
Stoudamire was waived Wednesday night, after giving it a semi-heroic go on a strained left groin in the Spurs’ 100-95 preseason loss to Washington at the AT&T Center.
“It was just my fate,” said Stoudamire, a 26-year-old point guard. “Obviously, it wasn’t meant for me to be a San Antonio Spur.”
Throughout the preseason, Stoudamire’s mind was willing. His body was not. His bid to make the Spurs was star-crossed from literally the first day.
He strained his right groin during the Spurs’ opening training camp session on Sept. 30, played in one preseason game, then injured his other side of his groin during practice on Tuesday.
With little left to lose Wednesday, Stoudamire hobbled through a desperate but noble attempt to show the Spurs something.
He played 18 minutes against the Wizards, never looking quite right, and scored three points.
“I was telling Kurt Thomas on the bench, ‘Sometimes you take for granted just being mobile,’” Stoudamire said.
Before the game, and before the cut, coach Gregg Popovich said he sympathized with the impossibility of Stoudamire’s situation.
“He’s not 100 percent, and he wants to make a basketball team, and he would like to be as healthy as possible to give it his best go,” Popovich said. “The situation is what it is, and he’s got to deal with it, and so do we. He makes it tough for us, decision-wise, for obvious reasons.”
Stoudamire’s dismissal leaves the Spurs with three more cuts to make before Monday’s deadline.
At least Wednesday offered Popovich one no-brainer: Tim Duncan appears to have solidified a spot for the 12th consecutive year. He scored a preseason-high 20 points in 22 minutes.
The Spurs head into the final days of the preseason with two roster spots up for grabs.
Anthony Tolliver, a 6-foot-9 shooter out of Creighton, has built a nice case for one of them.
He scored nine points against the Wizards, but it was a fourth-quarter hustle play that drew a standing ovation from Popovich.
Tolliver missed a two-footer from a tough angle, missed the ensuing tap-in attempt, then chased the ball to the other side of the rim to finally score the basket.
“I’m happy with my effort,” Tolliver said. “I know that’s something I control every night.”
The race for the Spurs’ final spot is shaping up to be a two-man compe ion between Malik Hairston, the rookie from Oregon, and Desmon Farmer, a second-year player.
Both guards had their moments Wednesday.
Farmer scored 12 points, all of them on 3-pointers, all of them in the second half. Hairston, meanwhile, was simply solid, scoring six points to go with six rebounds and three assists.
The pair did nothing to make the Spurs’ staff dread the looming cut day any less.
“The nice thing is, they’re all NBA players,” Spurs assistant Mike Budenholzer said. “This is a great problem to have.”
The preseason ended for one would-be Spur on Wednesday. Stoudamire made no secret that he viewed this tryout with the Spurs as perhaps his last chance at an NBA career.
Now that chance is gone, in the strain of not one muscle, but two.
“It’s a tough pill to swallow,” Stoudamire said. “I’ll try to get healthy. I’ll call my agent, and we’ll discuss things and go from there.”
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well thats that, i guess i have to waive him from my 2k9 team too.
Wow. Interesting turn of events with Stoudamire getting waived directly after a game.
$200K down the drain but it opens the door for Farmer or Hairston.
P.S.
What has happened to Devin Green? Just keeping him around for good luck or what?
“I’m happy with my effort,” Tolliver said. “I know that’s something I control every night.”
This is why he's going to make the club. He gets it. He's also the closest thing to an Horry replacement we have in the pipeline: He has the long ball, the rebounding , and the defense, a hard package to put together, but necessary to keep the other big from dropping into Tim's lap when playing something other than small ball for stretches.
I think it would have been tough to make the club even if he were healthy. I just couldn't see Pop keeping 4 small guards. If Hill pans out, and with Vaughn in the last year of his deal, there might be a chance for Salim next year if he signs somewhere on a one year deal.
I have nothing against Stoudamire, but I'm happy he didn't make the team..good luck to him in his future though, I wish him well..
the last 2 is difficult..I agree with the coaches though, it's a good problem to have..I'll be happy with either, and I honestly can't pick which one I'd rather have..probably leaning towards Malik..
I was wondering the same thing. I don't see him making the team over Hairston or Farmer, but it makes me think twice since they haven't waived him. Isn't this the second game he hasn't seen any action? Maybe they're just keeping him around for compe ion purposes???What has happened to Devin Green? Just keeping him around for good luck or what?
Looking back on it, the death knell for Stoudamire might have been Hill playing better than expected. Stoudamire, like Pargo, were likely targeted after Hill played poorly in summer league. If the Spurs now believe Hill is the real deal, Stoudamire's value would be extremely limited.
It also didn't help that Vaughn still appears to be at the level of a sufficient third string point guard.
I wasn't a big fan of the Stoudamire signing, but I feel bad for him not getting a real chance to prove himself because of an untimely injury. He'll latch on somewhere though.
I can't decide between Farmer and Hairston myself, so whichever one Pop choses will be fine with me. The scouting dept & FO of the Spurs should be commended-- there is a damned good collection of guys in camp.
Tolliver's numbers tonight: 9 points & 5 rebounds in just over 14 minutes. Very nice.
Last edited by Tully365; 10-23-2008 at 12:48 AM.
Damn, Farmer would be great now, but Hairston has a higher ceiling. I bet Pop will do what some have suggested and cut Hairston and hope no one else picks him up. I'd rather have Farmer be cut, but Mason/Finley won't cut it, and I think Farmer would be instant offense.
And I was slightly sad to hear he got waived, and I didn't want him to make it.
Yup exactly right.
He gets Spurs basketball and understands. Thats a huge hurdle to get over.
To which Kurt replied, "I don't."“I was telling Kurt Thomas on the bench, ‘Sometimes you take for granted just being mobile,’” Stoudamire said.
Same here, he seems like a good guy but I not sure he fit the team personal wise.
Who between Farmer and Hairston will fit in the Spurs D?
Is there still room for Hairston in the Toros in case he gets cut?
Am I the only one that thinks this is a no brainer? Farmer! Farmer! Farmer! The guy is playing great, we want someone to contribute now, and he's the man. Hairston is a development prospect, perfect for the Toros.
But he could get snatched up by another team...
If the Celtics could win it all with a team who mostly had never played before, I wish the Spurs had tried to totally rebuild. I know Pop didn't know then, but not resigning Fin would've made room for Farmer and Hairston. The only new people def getting minutes right now are Mason, Hill, and for Ian, maybe a month into the reg season. I think rebuilding around the big four plus Fab and Udoka would have been cool. As long as Hill beats out Vaughn, Mason beats out Fin, Tolliver makes Bonner the 15th man(even after Manu!), Ian makes Fab the 5th big, all by the new year, I'm gravy.
Nope, pretty much everyone thinks that Farmer is what the team needs the most right now with Manu out. And Hariston is likely to end up on the Toros if the the spurs sign him, but the risk is if the Spurs don't sign him and he goes to Austin then any NBA team can get him. So its simply a call of what's more important for the team right now, short term or long term.Am I the only one that thinks this is a no brainer? Farmer! Farmer! Farmer! The guy is playing great, we want someone to contribute now, and he's the man. Hairston is a development prospect, perfect for the Toros.
Too bad about Salim, but if healthy I think he can get himself signed to a team anyways. Good luck!
whoa. I didnt think Stoudamire would be waived this early (or at all). So it seems Tolliver's a lock. Between Hairston and Farmer, i dont care who goes in cause both are good.
are greens and watkins gone too?
Stoudamire will get picked up by another team and likely have a a nice career year
Whew! That's a relief!At least Wednesday offered Popovich one no-brainer: Tim Duncan appears to have solidified a spot for the 12th consecutive year.
So have Green and Watkins been waived yet?
Maybe Pop is trying to work a deal to offload someone.
Very good point. Pop was chasing all these guys after Hill shot poorly in the summer league. Hill's been pretty darn good in the preseason games and I think I read he's done great in training camp too.
I wanted Stoudamire only if Vaughn was cut. Looks like my boy Farmer is in running for real now.
Hairston I really like too. I'd love to get both. If the Spurs pick Farmer they have to find a way to keep Malik too.
15 spots, 3 don't suit up, 1 of the 3 is Ginobli.
Last spot is Hairston/Farmer, most likely designated for Austin.
Hairston has the upside, and with D, maybe the better "now" player.
Looks like 95% Tolliver, 75% Hairston, 30% Farmer.
BTW, does Bonner's contract permit him to light up the D-League?
umm I disagree with most of what you said. Hairston is not the more ready "now" player and there is no point in sending Farmer to the D-League because he dominated it (scoring wise that is). He's not really going to learn much more there. He just needs to work on his defense with the Spurs, not in the D-League.
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