We Need To Keep Desmon Farmer

[DMX7]

Besides being a scoring machine, I'm wondering what else does he bring to the table?

Besides being a god, I wonder what else he brings to the table?

[Tully365]

It's a tough call for Pop.

When Manu comes back, that'll be him, Mason, Finley, Udoka, and Bowen all capable of manning the 2 spot, along with undersized guys like Salim and Hill. Tolliver can rebound and even play in the post a little, which would be valuable, especially in the event of an injury to Duncan, Thomas, or Bonner. It's hard to judge Tolliver's 3 pt abilities with any great accuracy-- in the summer league, he shot well and everyone proclaimed him a "great shooter." Now, in preseason, he's not shooting so well and many are quick to dismiss him as a "terrible shooter..." I'd guess that the truth is probably about midway in between those two extremes. One advantage I can see to keeping Farmer is the potential to use him as trade bait latter on. I'd still feel better having another 6'11" guy on this team, but Watkins has a ways to go before convincing me that he's that guy...

Good luck, Pop...

[Spurs Brazil]

Count me in on the bandwagon...we need a scorer.

+1

[exstatic]

Salim, Farmer and Hairston are fighting for that last spot. Tolliver is already in, if you're paying attention to the noises coming out of training camp. Pop likes the youngsters and is on record as dreading the cutdowns, but the only two he consistently mentions by name are Hill and Tolliver. Anthony showed enough consistent shooting from trey-land in the d-league and in Germany last year for Pop to cut him for a few games of bad shooting in which he's doing everything else right and hustling. He's the small ball four that Pop has been searching for for 4-5 years.

[The Truth #6]

I agree that Tolliver is in, and I do hope he gets out of his slump.

However, I think it's frustrating that the FO is creating a logjam with Bonner/Tolliver, and quite possibly one for guys at 6'2" and shorter if we end up keeping Salim, which I think we will - Pop seems to remember his name.

I would like to see more (as in anything televised) with Salim to make an opinion on him but I would think he would need to be significantly better at scoring than Farmer to warrant his inclusion. I think it's 50/50 if they consider Salim as a point guard considering his lack of height.

And if they do keep Salim, that gives us him, Vaughn, Hill and Tony who are all around 6'2". That's a lot of short "point guards".

[holcs50]

we gotta keep salim. Ive said this before but he really could make a difference in the playoffs. 1) great 3 point shooter when he has opportunities-and with the spurs offense he will get quite a few open looks with the doubles on TD and penetration by tp and gino. 2) he is an above 90% FT shooter, stick him in when FTs are needed and its almost guaranteed. And as we all know spurs struggle quite a bit from the stripe.

[Manufan909]

I'd go with Hairston on account of potential, when it comes to wings. I'll happilly eat my words if Tolliver starts hitting shots, but I'd rather Pop take a risk with Hairston and choose Farmer over Salim. But I'll reserve judgement til the end of the preseason.

[Tully365]

I agree that Tolliver is most likely in-- he can shoot the three some, and has experience being a post guy as a center in college, so his versatility is a big plus. I'm torn between Farmer & Hairston. Farmer does one thing obviously well-- attack and score. Hairston brings more intangible stuff like rebounding and D. I like Farmer over Salim based on the 4" size advantage and a similar game, because I already think the Spurs are too small and should avoid getting any smaller.

[AusSpursFan]

If we already had role players who could score then I would agree with you, but because we don't, Vaughn's roster spot denies a young scorer a place on the team.

Vaughn isn't a scorer and no one is expecting for that to be his role, but because we desperately need scoring, he isn't really helping to fix our weakness, if anything he is holding us back in some ways, even though he plays admirably and to the best of his abilities. This isn't about slamming Vaughn but assessing the needs of the team.

"Filling a role" and "not making mistakes" is great when we have a super talented deep bench but right now too many of the players on the team are complementary role players who only do all the "little things." Is it wrong to say that we need players who can do BIG things, like score the basketball?

Under Pop, and with Tim as our leader, a strong defense will not be our weakness. I believe the FO admits that scoring points is an issue for this team. And Pop, in my opinion, is not as strong on the offensive side as on the defensive side of the game. How else to explain infatuations with shooters who can't shoot like NVE and now Tolliver?

So yeah, I think Farmer could help the team more than Vaughn.

totally agree, just wish Pop would see it

[wildbill2u]

Looks to me like NONE of these guys has the skills to be a lock and that's why there is so much difference of opinion on who to keep.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a couple of players who really stand out and make the decision easy?

[Barbie]

omg, enuff wit da ugly names, da spurs need sexii names like Chad and Brad <3

[bgoines]

Has anyone seen the last two games if you have you would understand why i started this blog. Desmon Farmer game speaks for himself i think we'll see him in a jearsey for the rest of the season folks!!!!

[MoSpur]

Has anyone seen the last two games if you have you would understand why i started this blog. Desmon Farmer game speaks for himself i think we'll see him in a jearsey for the rest of the season folks!!!!

I was at the game last night. He has a good offensive game and shot, but his all around game isn't all that IMO. I think Malik has a better all around game. He defends better and isn't afraid of contact on the offensive end and defensive end. There was a time that some big foreigner dude drove to the basket from the elbow and had the intention of throwing it down, but Malik went up to block it and gave that dude a hard foul.

[Darkwaters]

I was at the game last night. He has a good offensive game and shot, but his all around game isn't all that IMO. I think Malik has a better all around game. He defends better and isn't afraid of contact on the offensive end and defensive end. There was a time that some big foreigner dude drove to the basket from the elbow and had the intention of throwing it down, but Malik went up to block it and gave that dude a hard foul.

During Summer League who would have thought that we'd be so torn over the idea of dismissing Hairston? He looked so bad back then, and pretty decent now.

[MoSpur]

During Summer League who would have thought that we'd be so torn over the idea of dismissing Hairston? He looked so bad back then, and pretty decent now.

True. Maybe he just needed to get a little more comfortable. Who knows?