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There was still nothing said about Obama NOT being the Anti-Christ.
Apology not accepted.
There was still nothing said about Obama NOT being the Anti-Christ.
Uhm... I'm pretty sure "none" is a valid answer. Maybe somewhat of a "trick" answer, but surely still valid.
Exactly that "trick" part is what makes it a loaded question, because a loaded question is meant to trick. He quotes me saying i'm an idiot, because i call him out on it's loaded capacity, and you a 3rd party see that the possibility is there.
Notwithstanding the great influence of his works on others, the accuracy of Eusebius' accounts has sometimes been questioned.
* In the Ecclesiastical History, book 8, chapter 2, in which he introduces his discussion of the Great Persecution under Diocletian with: "Wherefore we have decided to relate nothing concerning them except the things in which we can vindicate the Divine judgment. [...] We shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity."
* In the Martyrs of Palestine, chapter 12, in which Eusebius provides a list of events which are omitted from the text: "I think it best to pass by all the other events which occurred in the meantime: such as [...] the lust of power on the part of many, the disorderly and unlawful ordinations, and the schisms among the confessors themselves; also the novelties which were zealously devised against the remnants of the Church by the new and factious members, who added innovation after innovation and forced them in unsparingly among the calamities of the persecution, heaping misfortune upon misfortune. I judge it more suitable to shun and avoid the account of these things, as I said at the beginning."
* In his Praeparatio evangelica (xii, 31), Eusebius declares that it is "lawful and fitting" to use fictions (pseudos) as medicine[5].
* His treatment of source do ents is also in doubt, since his Ecclesiastical History quotes extensively from a fictional exchange of letters between Abgar V of Edessa and Jesus[6].
* The panegyrical tone of the Vita, plus the omission of internal Christian conflicts in the Canones, suggests to many that his writings should be trusted with caution.[7].
These and other issues have invited controversy and the condemnation of historians. Gibbon noted that "He indirectly confesses that he has related whatever might redound to the glory, and has suppressed all that could tend to the disgrace, of religion".[8], while the Swiss historian Jacob Burckhardt was considerably blunter and dismissed Eusebius as "the first thoroughly dishonest historian of antiquity".
Great sources pal. Keep up your biased pro-Christian research. I'm sure you're getting the complete story
If youre going to plagiarize, at least provide a link.
oh damn you got called out
You do realize that you're asking for a bit of the impossible? In ancient times, the only educated people that kept records were scholars of one mythology or the other. You're asking for secular ancient texts on the events that surrounded a religious event. Why not ask for Bigfoot's home movies?Great sources pal. Keep up your biased pro-Christian research. I'm sure you're getting the complete story
My pastor has been out of town the past few days at a funeral.
The reason I made that last post is because, after praying about it, I felt that I should.
Stop flip-flopping.
Good read.
Angel, check your PMs.
I tried.
Pee Wee,
Thanks to this thread, I will forever go down in history as someone who thought Senator Obama was the anti Christ.
For better or worse, I have made my peace with being so categorized.
Why can't you?
You mean repenting?Stop flip-flopping.
Thanks for the
I would agree. You should never apologize for having an opinion, no matter how bat- crazy/inane it sounds.
That's sort of my point. If the only evidence that exists is clearly pro-Christian biased and doctored sources it makes it rather hard to form any definitive conclusions about anything relating to Jesus.You do realize that you're asking for a bit of the impossible? In ancient times, the only educated people that kept records were scholars of one mythology or the other. You're asking for secular ancient texts on the events that surrounded a religious event. Why not ask for Bigfoot's home movies?
You are just figuring this out now? You thought you might be able to find definite proof that Jesus was in fact the son of God? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
You scare me. I think you are more categorized with this dude...I tried.
Pee Wee,
Thanks to this thread, I will forever go down in history as someone who thought Senator Obama was the anti Christ.
For better or worse, I have made my peace with being so categorized.
Why can't you?
Geddy Lee?You scare me. I think you are more categorized with this dude...
A question Angel_Luv, if I may: Is there a threshold for things that you think are important enough to pray about?
I'm genuinely curious because I'm not religious at all.
But isn't your claiming to know about texts being thrown out at certain events just as invalid, then?
. There you go again with your ASSumptions.
The point I'm trying to discuss with Extra and other conservatives is whether or not the historicity of Jesus as indicated in the NT Gospels can be trusted. He believes so, I don't. We debate. You make asinine comments and inferences. Life goes on.
Logic isn't a prerequisite for posting.
I hope you are joking. Geddy Lee would probably kick your ass if he found out you said he looks like David Koresh.Geddy Lee?
Or he would play Tom Sawyer and make your head explode.
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