Yeah, leave that to the public education system..
The fact that you ended up letting her go is besides the point.
The point is that you are an ignorant jerk that is so concerned about someone else brainwashing your own child that you can't even see that you yourself are trying to control your daughter's belief system......
....which appears to be "if they don't agree with you, call them names. This makes you look smarter than they are."
you win dad of the year award. congrats, big man.
shocker....never would have guessed what side of the fence you are on....
if at first you dont agree, just call them re ed right off the bat.
"All children are born Atheists; they have no idea of God."
- Baron d'Holbach, 1772
all I know is that unproven religious beliefs deserve as much disbelief as all other unproven beliefs (including atheism). The difference is, most (not all) religious people are unwilling or unable to accept that, where as atheist live by it.
Gee, that only includes any parent who's forced their child to go to church/bible study/catechism/etc.
no....this is about "if anyone is going to brainwash his kid, it's gonna be him......not some evil doing church god warriors"
B2B, you are her stepfather. You are probably more of a father to her then her own father is (from what I have read). If she's anything like I was, she probably took your thoughts into consideration, but you need to let her see the other side of things too. I'm not going to argue about your atheistic views, but if you want to try to tell her your truth afterwards that's fine, but she's an individual and she should be able to decide after she sees both sides of things. How long as she seen your side of things? A pretty long time right? What will a weekend do to her?
I'm not brainwashing her by giving her both sides of the story. I'm brainwashing her by letting her go and hang out with people who's beliefs I don't agree with. I've told her that I feel one way and some feel the same way and others don't. I don't call them names I call you names and I call the extremist names when she's not around. I don't need to say anything when she sees s flopping around on the ground because god has entered their body she already knows how absurd that is.
You know nothing about what you're talking about because you haven't paid attention to anything I've said. You assume that because I don't agree with something or that I don't see things your way that I'm blasting them to her. I'm only blasting you for turning a perfectly legitimate concern into me being an advocate for her rolling with the wrong crowd in lue of bible beating freaks. I said in the beginning that I don't agree with fire and brimstone and that I don't agree with them telling her that she's going to if she doesn't worship god and live by his name. Not many parents would.
If thats bad parenting then you're an idiot.
You have no basis in your points you have simply ranted on about how you don't like with no shread of reality to go off of. Congradulations for accomplishing nothing.
don't disagree with ya there.
She may or may not believe in god. She's undecided. I don't care what she ultimately decides. I'm going to let her go. The only thing I didn't want was for her to feel that she was a bad person or that she would be destined to live a life of misery if she didn't believe in god. I think thats reasonable. Blake doesn't get it.
I'm not sorry about it so why should you be? Being well rounded, to me at least, is the ability to believe in what I believe and understanding that there are millions who don't believe as I do and accepting that with an open mind. I totally understand the anti-religion sentiment many have and it doesn't bother me at all. I don't see how that makes me less well rounded and if you'd see me in person you'd see that I am very well rounded.
You completely fail to pay attention. Typical thumper at ude. Glad you've read me enough to make such a well thought opinion. You are so far off on what you think you know about me its not ever funny.
It doesn't. I meant your simpleton style of posting that I've read recently. Just seems out of character.
I don't need to see you in person to know you're well rounded. Its why I commented.
True. I don't wear my religion on my sleeve and I don't really put much thought into my "style" of posting. I just post what I'm thinking but in more simple terms than having to post a long winded rant...you know what I mean.
10-4 Captain
Roger that.
As long as this retreat isn't run by Pentecostals. I wouldn't worry too much about her witnessing kids flopping around on the floor, because God entered there bodies, nor any rattlesnake kissers, for that matter. Just be sure you send her with a 12 pack of Sprite, for protection, just in case
As long as this retreat isn't run by Pentecostals. I wouldn't worry too much about her witnessing kids flopping around on the floor, because God entered there bodies, nor any rattlesnake kissers, for that matter. Just be sure you send her with a 12 pack of Sprite, for protection, just in case
Just to let you know there are many different types of religious people and experiences within these communities. Sure, some are aggressive, but others are not. I am a person of faith but I do not attend nor want to be a part of any fire and brimstone. I do not believe that God is sitting there waiting to see me do something wrong so he can get me. That is the exact opposite of my belief system. I also was raised to believe that God helps those who help themselves. I believe strongly in free will and personal responsibility. I do not explain everything away by "blaming" God and I surely do not blindly follow any HUMAN. There is an old episode of Designing Women where Charlene is upset because her minister does not believe that women should be ministers. When she goes to talk to him about it, he says to her-- "You can not question the wisdom of God." To which she replies, "It is not His wisdom I am questioning. It is YOURS."
"I'd argue that d'Holbach never had a conversation with an infant to prove that theory correct."
- Chopper Jones, 2008
I don't think there's anything to worry about. Most of these fundamentalists are religiously sheltered their whole lives, and never know about the other possibilites like athiesm and agnosticism until they're older (and by then there beliefs have already been hammered into their head that they can't see things any other way and call these beliefs "facts").
just my .2
"Remember the word that I said to you... If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you... because they do not know Him who sent Me."
embrace the persecution Angel...it means you're doing something right...
It's .02, gotdammit! Or do you want to just give it your 20 cents?
Now why don't you just make like a tree, and get outta here!!
She is 12. You don't feel comfortable with her going its a big fat NO. Take her to High School Musical this weekend. 6 years down the road she can make decsions for herself. Ur opinion will mean then.
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