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    How about first wait until they review the ATM video tape. Is that asking too much?
    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...56/detail.html

    ...said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.

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    tim didn't read the story.

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    I would be interested to see how you do on the "Reading Comprehension" portion of the SAT.

    Nobody in that thread was saying McCain was DIRECTLY responsible for the attack. Nobody in that thread believes McCain told his supporters to attack that woman.

    What they are saying is McCain is purposefully injecting fear and hate into the political environment to garner votes, which as a side effect increases the likelihood that a supporter will do something stupid out of anger. You seem to fundamentally not understand this important distinction.

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    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...56/detail.html

    ...said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.
    The key being whether she was assaulted at all. Have the results of the ATM video been released?

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    tim didn't read the story.
    of course not. he's more than happy to throw out his ASSumptions and completely inaccurate conclusions so he can trash "Obama s" as he likes to call them. his shtick is completely predictable.

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    The key being whether she was assaulted at all. Have the results of the ATM video been released?
    what part of "outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras" don't you understand? god damn you are one dumb .

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    Discussion is fine. Full blown investigation before the police have even indicated one way or another that this a legit claim can cause more damage than it can help.

    How do you want this to be handled?
    I want the press to be respectful to her. Since she's gone public, I hope she's prepared to answer questions fairly. Certainly I hope she's treated with kindness by those who deal directly with her.

    I hope that anyone investigating this does so responsibly and carefully, but thoroughly and with skepticism.

    I hope that anyone who treats her with bile gets -slapped by karma.

    If she's an innocent victim I hope the criminal responsible is caught and held responsible. I hope she gets any help she needs.

    If she's putting forward a hoax, then I hope she doesn't cause too much damage to anyone's reputation and that she gets the help she needs.

    As for what happens on a message board and who happens to say what? Who cares? I'm not sure it matters and I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone posting links, asking questions, or speculating. Making jokes about it might be off-color, but that's how some people deal with the unfortunate things we face in society. I don't see how talking about this issue or questioning it does any harm.

    Just my take.

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    How about first wait until they review the ATM video tape. Is that asking too much?
    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...56/detail.html

    ...said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.
    tim didn't read the story.
    of course not. he's more than happy to throw out his ASSumptions and completely inaccurate conclusions so he can trash "Obama s" as he likes to call them. his shtick is completely predictable.
    Seriously, do I have to piece this together? I said review the ATM video tape. I didn't say review the video tape of her getting the B etched on her face.

    RIF.

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    what part of "outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras" don't you understand? god damn you are one dumb .
    The cameras would be valuable for more than just the attack. They might show if the guy walked by, if he initiated the attack at the ATM. They also might show other cars/witnesses that could have seen the attacker or the victim prior to the attack.

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    what part of "outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras" don't you understand? god damn you are one dumb .
    Are you really this stupid? You astound me with how damn dumb you. It's amazing.

    "The attack began at 8:50 pm ET and Ashley called the police at 9:30 PM ET. Initially, she was robbed, ran away after the robbery, and the robber followed her to her car. At that point, he became enraged at the bumper sticker and began beating her and scratched the ‘B’ into her face. Ashley went to the hospital early this morning after initially refusing medical attention last night, and had an MRI and/or a CAT scan. Doctors believe her cheek will heal fully."
    All know is the ASSAULT took place outside of the video. Not the robbery.

    Got damn. Log off the internet if you can't follow.

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    Seriously, do I have to piece this together? I said review the ATM video tape. I didn't say review the video tape of her getting the B etched on her face.

    RIF.
    i'd bet my life she withdrew 60 bucks. she can't be that stupid. i'm also pretty sure she was completely alone.

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    Seriously, do I have to piece this together? I said review the ATM video tape. I didn't say review the video tape of her getting the B etched on her face.

    RIF.
    My post wasn't meant as an insult. I just thought that you had missed that sentence in the original story.

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    i'd bet my life she withdrew 60 bucks. she can't be that stupid. i'm also pretty sure she was completely alone.
    Exactly. Pretty sure. Why not check the tape to see if she was alone or you can see the robbery?

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    My post wasn't meant as an insult. I just thought that you had missed that sentence in the original story.
    Yeah, I just had to include your post since some others in this thread need their hand held through the discussion.

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    The cameras would be valuable for more than just the attack. They might show if the guy walked by, if he initiated the attack at the ATM. They also might show other cars/witnesses that could have seen the attacker or the victim prior to the attack.
    How would they know the attack took place outside the view of the surveillance cameras unless they viewed the surveillance cameras???

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    How would they know the attack took place outside the view of the surveillance cameras unless they viewed the surveillance cameras???
    Because ATM cameras don't pan around like spotlights. When she pointed to the spot where it happened, if it was more than a few feet from the ATM, the cop would have known it was out of the line of sight of the camera.

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    Exactly. Pretty sure. Why not check the tape to see if she was alone or you can see the robbery?
    that. i'd pay off a black man to take this rap, and pronto!!!

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    I want the press to be respectful to her. Since she's gone public, I hope she's prepared to answer questions fairly. Certainly I hope she's treated with kindness by those who deal directly with her.

    I hope that anyone investigating this does so responsibly and carefully, but thoroughly and with skepticism.

    I hope that anyone who treats her with bile gets -slapped by karma.

    If she's an innocent victim I hope the criminal responsible is caught and held responsible. I hope she gets any help she needs.

    If she's putting forward a hoax, then I hope she doesn't cause too much damage to anyone's reputation and that she gets the help she needs.

    As for what happens on a message board and who happens to say what? Who cares? I'm not sure it matters and I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone posting links, asking questions, or speculating. Making jokes about it might be off-color, but that's how some people deal with the unfortunate things we face in society. I don't see how talking about this issue or questioning it does any harm.

    Just my take.
    I agree with all of that. None of us are doing any harm. The ones who might be doing harm are the ones doing the actual digging. Sifting through the dirt during the excavation is fine since it's already unearthed.

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    Because ATM cameras don't pan around like spotlights. When she pointed to the spot where it happened, if it was more than a few feet from the ATM, the cop would have known it was out of the line of sight of the camera.
    Why do I get the feeling the surveillance tapes will end up showing us nothing?

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    How would they know the attack took place outside the view of the surveillance cameras unless they viewed the surveillance cameras???


    Holy what a stupid azz mufuka.

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    I agree with all of that.


    MaryAnnKilledGinger has to be Rookie of the Year for Spurstalk, no?

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    I agree with all of that. None of us are doing any harm. The ones who might be doing harm are the ones doing the actual digging. Sifting through the dirt during the excavation is fine since it's already unearthed.
    Oh the gutter press? I'm right there with you. I'm also pretty ticked off at the nasty messages on her blog page right now. It's vile stuff. Especially when people can't know all the facts yet.

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    Why do I get the feeling the surveillance tapes will end up showing us nothing?
    If it is a hoax, they could be very useful in helping to prove it. It would be hard to explain someone just standing there, for example, if an assault was taking place twenty feet away. I'd also be interested to know what's across the street and if there were any cameras over there.

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    If it is a hoax, they could be very useful in helping to prove it. It would be hard to explain someone just standing there, for example, if an assault was taking place twenty feet away. I'd also be interested to know what's across the street and if there were any cameras over there.
    I'll say this, if it is a hoax the Republicans would not be dumb enough to it up.

    They are too good at this.

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    if there were a shred of hope for this being true, it would be the only topic on fox ALL DAY.

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