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angel luv: "i don't think he was born, period".
Philip J. Berg
angel luv: "i don't think he was born, period".
I voted NO. Not necause I would like to disqualify him for president, but because it was so difficult to get what could be a forgery.
I think he was a C-section birth.
It wasn't difficult at all and no one who has seen it personally said there was anything fishy about it at all.
Why didn't the thread starter answer his own poll?
How many people saw it? Numbers please? Maybe they were all in on the scheme. People would like to see an original. Not a certified copy. How about opening up the state's records in this case if the original is destroyed? Is that too much to ask? What about his college records? His writing skills prove he didn't write his first book and has amazing similarities to an Ayres book.
You liberals demand accountability of records for republicans. Shouldn't you demand the same of democrats, or do you like being hypocritical?
There are things that make me doubt both sides:
1) Why hasn't the lawsuit been dismissed if it's frivolous?
2) Why would Obama have been allowed to get this far?
A1) It'a a valid lawsuit becaust you mest be native born.
A2) Because the media tells people it's not important.
sons really who cares about this long legged freak? damn that chicago slim pimp
Given that it's been up on the internet for months now, I'd wager millions.
Do you have your original birth certificate or access to it? I sure don't! A certified copy is considered proof for anyone else in America.
Opening up what state records to discern what, exactly?
Ahh. nvm
Personally, I don't see both FactCheck and Snopes being "in on the scheme" since they are both known for debunking myths and factcheck has been historically non-partisan.
Wow, you just proved he's a citizen by posting the same image that's all over the internet. You must be some kind of forensic do ent expert. Thanks.
Has he posted his birth certificate or a certificate of live birth?
So you've demanded to see McCain's original birth certificate and hold it in your hands as well, right?
You are a piece of .
would that McCain Macbeth?
Tell me what you get when you ask for a birth certificate in Hawaii.
People from reputable news organizations have examined the certified copy in person and are satisfied with it's authenticity. What other proof were you hoping for on a message board?
Tell me why in many cir stances a certificate of live birth is not enough and a birth certificate is required.
Tell me why Obama decides to go to Hawaii all of a sudden to see his dying grandmother and not bring his wife or kids?
Tell me why Obama's paternal grandmother is on audio tape saying Obama was born overseas.
This would be too wild to believe but let's debunk a conspiracy theory.
Same ing bags vomiting the same bull , different day.
Tell me what you get in Hawaii. Chances are good you have no idea.
The wing-nuts are D E S P E R A T E ! ! !
Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter
By Amy Hollyfield
Published on Friday, June 27th, 2008 at 05:21 p.m.
Much more supporting evidence: PolifactSUMMARY: Since we published Obama's birth certificate, questions about its authenticity have been frequent and fierce. After reviewing the evidence, we're confident in our rulings.
It started as a whisper, a trickle of nagging doubt.
“As a concerned citizen, I’m wondering if there isn’t something fishy going on with the Obama certificate.”
“I have serious doubts about the purported 'birth certificate’ you were sent.”
“Something doesn’t smell right.”
Soon, e-mails and blog posts were flying. As the pace quickened, the tone sharpened.
“You should be apologizing ... for your misinformation regarding BO bogus birth certificate, that you claimed was genuine!”
At full throttle, the accusations are explosive and unrelenting, the writers emboldened by the anonymity and reach of the Internet.
And you can’t help but ask: How do you prove something to people who come to the facts believing, out of fear or hatred or maybe just partisanship, that they’re being tricked?
• • •
Sen. Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a do ent PolitiFact.com had sought for months. Countless chain e-mails, seeking to paint him as a secret Muslim, speculated that his full name included Muhammed (or Mohammed). Some said he is not an American citizen.
Birth Certificate
As a fact-checking news Web site, we went to extensive lengths to sort out the truth. We got a copy of his 1992 marriage certificate from the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics. His driver’s license record from the Illinois Secretary of State’s office. His registration and disciplinary record with the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois. Not to mention all of his property records.
Not one of these do ents shows a Muhammed (or Mohammed) in Obama's name. They all read "Barack H. Obama" or "Barack Hussein Obama."
The ultimate do ent we sought was Obama’s birth certificate. Unlike the other do ents, Hawaii birth certificates aren’t public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled.
On June 13, 2008, Obama’s campaign finally released a copy, while launching a fact-check Web site of its own, Fightthesmears.com. The site is a direct response to allegations about Obama that won’t go away: He’s Muslim. He took the oath of office on a Koran. He refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. PolitiFact has researched all of these accusations and none of them are true.
Also tell me why you don't answer your own poll.
Tell me why it took so long to provide Berg a certificate of live birth?
Tell me why the snopes/factcheck copy had a seal and the certificate of live birth originally posted on Obama's website did not.
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