It's over

[timvp]

I accidentally walked into a railing in the stairwell at work this week. It was bad enough that HR wanted me to go to the emergency room for liability purposes to make sure I didn't have a concussion. Left a bit of a bruise on my forehead. If I squint hard enough, it kinda looks likes a "McC"

A McCain supporter would have done a much better job carving up a Obama girl.

[florige]

Alright folks. Tune into TNT, Lakeshow baby!

Lakers suck dude!!!


Anyway I'm not one to count my eggs before they hatch either, but in 04 this race was tight as . I mean if you go to www.electoralvote.com and check out the day in 04 in compared to today, even in the states Kerry did lead in like say FL, or OH, he was never ahead by much. I say if it's a week before the election and either candidate is only up by one or two points then you should consider that a toss-up in no ones column. Literally in the last week OH flipped like 4 or 5 different times between Kerry and Bush. If he did lead Bush it was by the skin of his teeth. Well within the margin or error.

[whottt]

Just out of curiosity.....if America has suddenly gone socialist...how come the NYT and NBC are struggling so badly?

[LnGrrrR]

Awesome. I hope the current Republicans burn their party down to the ground so it can be rebuilt. I lean right on a lot of issues but the GOP is horrible right now.

Hear hear. I don't fit into any one party neatly. The only reason I consider myself a Democrat now is because most of the Republican party are bat crazy theocratic civil-right reducing spenders.

[Findog]

This ish is over. I used to beat the "it's not over" drum but it's over now. Obama at worst held serve during the debates. He could have been the B carver and he'd still pull it out.

I'd say there's more chance Obama goes 425+ than McCain winning.

Tucker Carlson said on one of the talking head shows that everybody knows this is over, except for paranoid Democrats...and whottt, I guess.

[JoeChalupa]

This race is FAR from over.

[DarkReign]

Just out of curiosity.....if America has suddenly gone socialist...how come the NYT and NBC are struggling so badly?

Because I dont think the country is as liberal as you make it out to be.

I think Americans are stuck with two choices and theyre choosing the lesser of two evils.

What does it matter? Your Republican party is owned and operated by socialists, too, so does it really matter?

No true Republican would allow this bailout, or this new $180 billion dollar loan for auto companies....

These two parties, economically, arent different at all right now. Thats the real problem.

Theyre only different on social issues, I wouldnt even say theyre different on foreign policy either, save for Iraq.

There just isnt much difference.

[JoeChalupa]

I concur with DarkReign.

[101A]

Because I dont think the country is as liberal as you make it out to be.

I think Americans are stuck with two choices and theyre choosing the lesser of two evils.

What does it matter? Your Republican party is owned and operated by socialists, too, so does it really matter?

No true Republican would allow this bailout, or this new $180 billion dollar loan for auto companies....

These two parties, economically, arent different at all right now. Thats the real problem.

Theyre only different on social issues, I wouldnt even say theyre different on foreign policy either, save for Iraq.

There just isnt much difference.

Seriously, dude.

I've got two tickets to paradise.

[romad_20]

Seriously, dude.

I've got two tickets to paradise.

[Findog]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature...5/obamas_lead/

Oct. 25, 2008 | At the time of this writing, just past midnight in the opening minutes of Oct. 24 -- meaning a mere 11 days before the first votes in the 2008 presidential election will be cast in Dixville Notch, N.H. -- I am looking at the results of no fewer than 11 national polls. Barack Obama leads in every one.

Obama leads by a double-digit margin in five of the 11. With over 50 percent support in seven of the 11. At the same time state polls show his lead outside the margin of error in supposedly critical battleground states like Virginia, Colorado and New Mexico, and he has growing double-digit leads in such formerly compe ive states as Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

But because one of the 11 polls, the one performed by a survey company that touts itself as "America's most accurate pollster," shows only a 1-point Obama edge and another, from venerable Gallup, shows a slim 4-point margin among so-called likely voters, many Democrats are still nervous. Afraid that the polls with the wide margins are misleading; scared that the "Bradley Effect" will cause many more white votes for McCain and against Obama than the polls are registering. Worried that despite Obama's financial advantage, enthusiasm gap and vaunted field organization, the breakthrough young and minority vote will not materialize as promised.

Well, this Democratic pollster has three simple things to say:

1) The current Obama margin is real, has been present and generally growing for more than a month, and is predicated on three very firm foundations unlikely to change in the final 10 days of this campaign. First, a general negative mood about the country and the current administration. Second, the specific profound impact of the financial collapse and deepening recession, which has dominated this election since the collapse of Lehman Brothers in mid-September. And third the difference in candidate performance and persona, particularly in the three televised debates, that has led to the Democrat growing in stature and steadiness while his more experienced opponent has seemed increasingly risky and uncertain. While the margin could still fluctuate -- and perhaps there will be a snap-back from an "anti-coronation" effect -- i.e, undecided voters who realize Obama is about to be elected but don't want to add to his or the Democrats' margin of victory -- the dynamic of the overall situation is clear.

2) The likely voter model offered by Gallup is flawed. The Gallup organization itself seems to recognize this, since it is also reporting an "expanded" turnout model that has shown Obama running anywhere from 2 to 4 net points better than its "traditional" model. The flaw is simple: Gallup identifies "likely" voters by asking their previous voting history, meaning that if you are a first-time voter or you skipped voting in either 2000 or 2004, your preference is either not counted at all or weighted down. Needless to say this discounts the substantial numbers of new voters who have already participated in the 2008 primaries, have just registered to vote as part of record registration drives across America, or are planning to cast a vote on Nov. 4, spurred by a massive Democratic field organization. Many other pollsters are eschewing this rear-view mirror approach in favor of questions that ascertain respondents' current intentions to vote and their overall interest in the election. Obama performs better in their models.

3) There will always be outliers. The IBD-TIPP poll, the one that shows a 1-point margin, is published by Investor's Business Daily and is the product of a firm called the Technometrica Ins ute of Polling and Politics. The company's tag line, "America's most accurate pollster," derives in part from its claim to have had the most accurate record of all pollsters in 2004. But one indication of potential bias is the fact that among TIPP's current "hot topics" is the question "Are we ready for socialism?" You could argue that the liberal Web site Daily Kos is biased too, and discount its sponsored poll that shows a 10-point Obama lead -- except the Kos poll numbers resemble those in surveys conducted by traditional network powers ABC, NBC, CBS as well as C-SPAN/Reuters. Those all report double-digit Obama margins. Even a Fox News poll shows Obama leading by 9 points. That's got to hurt, though I suspect they (and Rush Limbaugh) are consoling themselves with thoughts of the ratings increases that will undoubtedly accompany their enhanced profile, post-Nov. 4, as the official megaphone of the opposition.

We can pick at many of these polls. They offer differing methodologies, differing interviewing techniques, differing sample sizes and composition. Yet there is actually great comfort in their diversity -- or disparity. A dozen national polls, and four or five times that many in key states, are near-unanimous as to the standing of this campaign. Given that they have arrived at those results by different means, and are not cookie-cutter products that are all missing the same truth, the American people should be confident about the emerging consensus they have reached.

Leave it to the Republicans to doubt the polls, to pin their hopes on the possibility that all these different survey firms have got it wrong. (Where is our modern-day Republican Cassius to opine that "The fault [my friends] is not in our polls/ But in ourselves"?) From my perspective, barring some unforeseen cir stance in the next 11 days, all that remains to be seen is the margin of victory, and whether, as these polls seem to be hinting, we're headed for a landslide.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Awesome. I hope the current Republicans burn their party down to the ground so it can be rebuilt. I lean right on a lot of issues but the GOP is horrible right now.

And they did... and now it's the Trump GOP.


Be careful for what you wish for, tbh?

[Winehole23]

The current Republicans want to burn popular sovereignty to the ground in favor of permanent minority rule.

Anti-democratic to the bone.

[Trainwreck2100]

Awesome. I hope the current Republicans burn their party down to the ground so it can be rebuilt. I lean right on a lot of issues but the GOP is horrible right now.

I'm kind of scared they'll keep going the same direction with Palin as their new star. They just keep trying to appeal to the churches and the war-hawks.

Timvp got monkey pawed

[Millennial_Messiah]

The current Republicans want to burn popular sovereignty to the ground in favor of permanent minority rule.

Anti-democratic to the bone.

on my last drive, between Amarillo and Lubbock there's a stretch of nice interstate highway, and there's a sign facing southbound that says "TRUMP for KING". No joke.

[baseline bum]

Timvp got monkey pawed

monkey pawed

No one other than Gen X'ers are going to understand that reference

[Winehole23]

on my last drive, between Amarillo and Lubbock there's a stretch of nice interstate highway, and there's a sign facing southbound that says "TRUMP for KING". No joke.

I believe you.

Do you believe that ?

[Trainwreck2100]

monkey pawed

No one other than Gen X'ers are going to understand that reference

It was on an episode of the Simpson's millenials would know it. How ing old do you think i am

[Winehole23]

It was on an episode of the Simpson's millenials would know it. How ing old do you think i am

After eating too much Halloween candy, Homer, Lisa and Bart have nightmares.


In Lisa's nightmare, Homer buys a cursed monkey's paw that will grant its owner four wishes. While he, Bart and Lisa argue, Marge pleads with them to heed the vendor's warning and not use it at all. Despite her efforts, Maggie is granted the first wish: a new pacifier. Bart wishes for the Simpsons to be rich and famous, but the public soon tires of the family's antics and ubiquity. Horrified by the wasteful wishes, Lisa wishes for world peace, but aliens Kang and Kodos enslave the defenseless Earth. Determined to make a harmless wish, Homer demands a turkey sandwich, but the turkey is dry. With all the wishes used, he gives the paw to his neighbor Ned, who wishes for the aliens to leave and transforms his home into a castle.


In Bart's nightmare, Springfield lives in fear of his omnipotent powers, including the ability to read minds, magically move objects and turn living things into grotesque forms. When Homer refuses to turn off a football game so Bart can watch The Krusty the Clown Show, Bart transports him to the football stadium in place of the ball for a field goal kick. As Homer creeps into the house trying to surprise him with a blow to the head, Bart transforms him into a jack-in-the-box. After Dr. Marvin Monroe says Bart is desperate for attention from his father, Homer spends quality time with his son. Bart restores Homer's human form and they share a warm moment, causing Bart to wake up screaming.


In Homer's nightmare, he becomes a grave digger after Mr. Burns fires him for incompetence. While building a giant robotic laborer to replace human workers, Burns searches a graveyard for a human brain to implant in the robot. After mistaking Homer, asleep in an open grave, for a corpse because of his foul stench, he removes his brain and places it in the robot. Since Robo-Homer is just as incompetent as the old Homer, Burns declares the experiment a failure. After restoring the brain to Homer's body, Burns kicks the robot, which topples over and crushes him. Homer wakes from the nightmare to find Burns' head grafted on his shoulder. Homer tries to reassure himself that he is only dreaming, but Burns' head insists otherwise.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I believe you.

Do you believe that ?

Yeah, it's west Texas. Ruby red country. It's either that or a gun shop every 5-10 miles.

then again, in Cali you have a CBD/THC/weed shop every few blocks... equally annoying

[spurraider21]

I only learned what monkey paw meant from the YouTube dragonball z parody series

[DarrinS]

Bumping ancient takes

[DarrinS]

The only upside of this bump, is that I see some former posters, who have wisely decided to stop posting here.

[Winehole23]

The only upside of this bump, is that I see some former posters, who have wisely decided to stop posting here.

You should follow their example, your contribution is puny.

[DarrinS]

You should follow their example, your contribution is puny.

You're clearly more invested. Your "contributions" to political sub-forum of decaying NBA franchise are numerous, and pathetic.

I'll keep mine to a minimum.