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    the ones that "smelled the rat" and posted consistently. i never wavered.
    Props. Nice call.

    and i would never attempt to implicate mccain himself.
    That's great. I don't know where you think I said everyone who called the girl a liar was going to suddenly scheme to pin this on McCain. I simply meant that we will see someone, somewhere come up with a way to pin this on McCain.

    And really, I think it's fair game. In the perfect world, maybe not. But the political world is much different.

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    Sounds more like a Todd Palin operation.

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    I don't think there is anything closeted about LJ's political takes. His ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to his newsletter.
    Beware. My newsletter makes Ron Paul's newsletter look like Mother Teresa's personal diary.


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    Props. Nice call.
    thanks. so, would you wearing the "ashley todd halloween costume" be out of the question?

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    Yeah, thats more or less what I was thinking when I posted that semi-defence post.

    It seemed to me that you were just trying to point out the way either side will glom on to the actions of a few as representative of the candidates themselves.

    But I stand by this statement....

    Republicans are worse this election cycle, and it isnt even remotely close.

    Im not talking about some criminal who hit some Obama volunteer, or some liberal re who spray paints "racist" on the side of a house with a McCain poster in the front yard. Or worse than those even.

    Im talking about the candidates. Their message, their rhetoric, their party's message and the speeches that they give.

    Two words: Sarah Palin

    Shes the ost divisive in the country. She appeals to the lowest common denominator of society. Angry, Godly nitwits.

    I havent heard one thing said by the Dems that suggests Palin is a terrorist, or that she is a fundamentalist who wants the Bible to be the Law in here, or any some such stupid ass claim.

    But yet, I hear that say "I love America" out of one side of her mouth while the other side says "Some parts of America are more American". WTF?!

    Are you actually trying to divide the nation?! Is that your actual goal?! To be able to determine who fits your "ideal American" profile, so as We are on this side and They are on the other?

    What ever happened to "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" you dumb, uncurious, paper tiger (<- I hope anyway)?

    Yeah, you love America like Marie Antoinette loved France....from on high.



    If you say so chief, but really, who gives a what I think?
    I cannot agree more with DR here.

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    This is getting a LOT of play in the national media. It's on the CNN.com frontpage, and they just started talking about it on Hardball. They said McCain was ridiculous for jumping on it so quickly to use this as a push to attack Obama.

    Personally, I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's one person. The GOP should probably have waited, but when you're down, you take any foothold you can get. This foothold just had a trip wire and steel jaws. Pretty sure if Obama was down by 7+ points and he found a story like this, it would have been brought to attention.

    Even so, bad news for McCain & Co.

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    This is getting a LOT of play in the national media. It's on the CNN.com frontpage, and they just started talking about it on Hardball. They said McCain was ridiculous for jumping on it so quickly to use this as a push to attack Obama.
    I missed this. Other than calling to give her a few words of encouragement and putting out a mild statement did he do anything else?

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    I missed this. Other than calling to give her a few words of encouragement and putting out a mild statement did he do anything else?
    I don't know. I've been working a lot this week, so I haven't really had time to pay attention to much of the stuff being slung by either party. If anyone can confirm that McCain heavily backed this, it would be telling.

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    Not the best of threads for timvp. Oh well, it happens to the best of them.

    Of course, this doesn't even crack a 4 or 5 on the "whott-style self-ownage" scale

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    Not the best of threads for timvp. Oh well, it happens to the best of them.

    Of course, this doesn't even crack a 4 or 5 on the "whott-style self-ownage" scale
    this doesn't crack 1-2 on whottt's scale. i don't even know if BRHornet's posts would crack 4-5 on whottt's scale.

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    this doesn't crack 1-2 on whottt's scale. i don't even know if BRHornet's posts would crack 4-5 on whottt's scale.
    It's impossible, because I don't think BRH truly believes anything that he posts.

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    It's impossible, because I don't think BRH truly believes anything that he posts.
    +1

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    I missed this. Other than calling to give her a few words of encouragement and putting out a mild statement did he do anything else?
    John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain's Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, "You're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson."
    Verrilli also told TPM that the McCain spokesperson had claimed that the "B" stood for Barack.


    Per the daily dish

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    Not the best of threads for timvp. Oh well, it happens to the best of them.

    Of course, this doesn't even crack a 4 or 5 on the "whott-style self-ownage" scale
    whottt is basically the Michael Jordan of self-ownage...or David Robinson, since according to baseline bum, whottt thinks the Admiral was a better player than MJ. Nobody can touch whottt.

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    Where's the black eye? Mama Cass sure cleans up good. The ACORN Pittsburgh Police are in the tank.

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    That Pittsburgh Police Lady is black and obviously in the tank for the Obama campaign.

    FREE ASHLEY TODD!!!!

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    maybe the "b" was symbolic of the silent "b" in plumber.

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    Can't wait to read this spin by the Obama s.
    I support Obama in this election and I actually do hold Mc/P somewhat responsible, albeit indirectly. I'm actually curious to know if that qualifies as Obama spin because I see a big difference between spin and cautious reasoning.

    I'm not asking to jump on the pile of people jerking you around, but because I'd like to know where you draw the line between partisan spin and a person expressing a reasoned argument.

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    McCain's Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, "You're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson."
    But, it was news and whatever official story he had should have been provided to reporters. It is then the reporters duty to verify. I wonder if the exchange was such that the reporter is implying this was an official stance of support by the campaign.

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    I'm sure Turd Fairy or whatever they call Karl Rove these days will offer her a job. She has the shameless mendacity and cesspool political views. The only thing missing is perhaps a makeover and $150K in new clothes.

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    She's still lying. She knows exactly how her face got that way. She did this deliberately and maliciously. I'm not buying this "mental problems" and "sometimes she blacks out" crap. Please.

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    But, it was news and whatever official story he had should have been provided to reporters. It is then the reporters duty to verify. I wonder if the exchange was such that the reporter is implying this was an official stance of support by the campaign.
    The point being that if the campaign is going to promote a story of this manner it is because they are expecting to be on the receiving end of positive effects from the story. When said story blows up, that same campaign is going to get the effects of the story but they will be negative and it will be justified.

    More simply put if you play with fire you better damn well be prepared to be burned.

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    This was a sad display of stupidity at best.

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