Yeah I think thats how it works but I wasnt sure.
Dude have you seen the size of Brocks Neck??
Yeah I think thats how it works but I wasnt sure.
What Round A-Train?? I think Brock may need to get this done in the first 3 rds. 5 rounds will be tough with a vet like Randy..
I think it will be round 2 or 3. If it goes to 5 he might be able to survive since Brock has great cardio.
I actually think that Brocks team may be training to get Randy out of there quick. Figuring the longer it goes the less likely we will win, given Randy's experience. Brock may come out flying, looking to end this quick.
Main Card Bouts:
Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar
Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Josh Hendricks
Joe Stevenson vs. Kenny Florian
Demian Maia vs. Nathan Quarry
Amir Sadollah vs. Nick Catone
Preliminary Bouts:
Dustin Hazelett vs. Tamdan McCrory
Jeremy Stephens vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Alvin Robinson vs. Mark Bocek
Matt Riddle vs. Ryan Thomas
Jorge Gurgel vs. Aaron Riley
The belief of many MMA experts leading up to Randy Couture's comeback fight against Tim Sylvia in March of 2007 was that "The Natural," gifted as he was, just couldn't overcome Sylvia's massive size advantage.
Couture was giving up six inches in height and some 40 pounds in weight, along with 13 years in age, in fighting for the first time in more than a year. At the time, the analysis made sense. After all, Couture's difficulty in sizing up against super-sized heavyweights in losses to Ricco Rodriguez and Josh Barnett helped convince Couture to move to light heavyweight to extend his career.
However, Couture used the time away from mixed martial arts to reinvent himself and retool his game -- an over-40 renaissance that landed him on top 10 pound-for-pound lists after scintillating victories over Sylvia and Gabriel Gonzaga.
Some 18 months later, after dispatching Sylvia in one of the most dominant performances of his career, Couture is hearing the same song, only a different verse.
When Couture faces Brock Lesnar in the main event of UFC 91 on Nov. 15 in Las Vegas, the 45-year-old Couture will once again be the smaller man in the octagon. While he'll be able to look the former WWE star in the eye, Couture will likely give away more than 45 pounds.
It's a scenario that Couture has attempted to simulate in his preparation for the fight.
"I brought Josh Hendricks in. He's actually fighting on the same card against Gabe Gonzaga," Couture told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "He's a 245-pound guy with a wrestling background -- a collegiate wrestler at Oklahoma State, my alma mater. I've got guys like Mike Whitehead and a bunch other guys that walk around 240, 250 with good, solid wrestling backgrounds. ... We've got a good crew. They're pushing me and ganging up on me. It's hard to find guys like Brock that are that size and move the way he moves."
Lesnar represents an entirely different challenge for Couture than the one posed by Sylvia. Lesnar is quick and athletic. He also has wrestling skills on par with Couture's. Sylvia had none of those attributes, and Couture took full advantage by initiating the striking with Sylvia, getting him to the ground in the first round and completely baffling and frustrating the champion. Couture expects to draw up a similar plan for Lesnar.
"The more I can make a big guy like that move and make him work, and threaten to take him down ... just because he's 270 pounds doesn't mean I can't take him down. I've taken down bigger guys," Couture said. "So, I can create that threat and that fear in his mind that he's going to end up on the bottom, which is someplace he's not used to being. Those are things that I can focus on, and use speed and mobility and those things as advantages for me."
While the match-up with Lesnar isn't the one Couture -- or many fans -- coveted during his rift with the UFC, Couture's desire to get back in the cage outweighed his craving to tangle with Fedor Emelianenko.
"You have to keep things in perspective," Couture said. "At 45 years old, the window is closing all the time, and that's a realistic view. I'm the best fighter I've been right now, and I need to use these tools while they're still here."
Sorry guys, size matters.
-Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar-I want Randy to win...but...
-Gabriel Gonzaga (#7 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Josh Hendricks-I dont care
-Joe Stevenson (#10 Lightweight in the World)* vs. Kenny Florian-Pure domination
-Demian Maia vs. Nathan Quarry-I see Nate hurting him, but Maia catching him in a sub!
-Amir Sadollah vs. Nick Catone-He better
Preliminary Bouts:
-Dustin Hazelett vs. Tamdan McCrory-Should be good
-Jeremy Stephens vs. Rafael dos Anjos-Jeremy will tap!
-Alvin Robinson vs. Mark Bocek-Who cares
-Matt Riddle vs. Ryan Thomas-Da Riddler!
-Jorge Gurgel vs. Aaron Riley-War Gurgel
Consistantly getting Brock on the Bottom i mean WOW, if he can do that, i'll never say a bad word about Randy for the rest of my life. Can't see it happening though. Brock's got great technique, he is lightyears stronger, more athletic and much more explosive. If Randy gets on top, Brock is going to be able to get up. And he is more of a threat to dump Randy on his head. His last 2 wins he beat up Sylvia who's got good stand-up but is not a great wrestler. Gonzaga, good stand-up and ground game but again not a great wrestler. He hasn't had to face someone like Brock with those wrestling credentials in the HW division really ever. And he's 45.. The pics of Randy training are scary. He looks really really thin. Brock will dwarf him in that ring.
If Randy's plan truly is to physically move Brock around (which I doubt) then he is insane and it will be a sad fight.
I doubt it too. He can't believe he is going to bully that monster around. Won't happen.
There is a GREAT preview of this fight that just got put up on http://www.ufc.com/ guys
Great interviews, from both Brock and Randy check it out...
What neck? His head is just growing directly out of his traps.
Pretty much my point
Agree with a lot of points made here.
Lesnar should still be considered to have a vulnerability to submissions on the ground, given that his last fight never really answered how much he's improved against those.
However, submissions have never really been Couture's game. Ground and Pound, clinches, dirty boxing, and a surprising striking aspect he uncovered against Sylvia - that's been the basis of Couture's style. It's entirely possible he's trained extensively in subs since his last fight, but until he shows it in the fight, any speculation on what additional aspects he may bring to the Lesnar fight will have to stay as such.
Given from what I've seen Couture do in the past, his best approach would be to clinch and dirty box against the cage, which could help minimize Lesnar's speed and power. Simply standing up and engaging in a strikefest is risky, given how fast Lesnar comes out of the gate (strangely enough, I was more pleased by the charging knee he threw at the beginning of the Herring fight, as well as the post-knockdown Lesnarocerus charge, than the knockdown punch itself). Going for GnP is going to be another challenge unto itself - good luck keeping Lesnar on the bottom.
Then again, so many people were dismissing Couture's chances prior to the Sylvia fight, that I can't definitively come out and say Lesnar will win this one. Like the Spurs, you can never really count Couture out of any battle.
Lenght or girth?
Wouldn't surprise me if Randy tried to outwrestle him to show that he's the better wrestler...
Strength is such a big part of wrestling tho…strength matters more in wrestling than any other part of MMA. If Randy does that he is in so much trouble.
He's dead meat if he does..
Randy's smarter than that.
I think..
I hope...
Rany is fricking smart, he won't tell his gameplan. his gameplan might be way diferent then what he is telling to the media.
I think Randy may try to bait Brock in, spin on him take his back, trip him then get on top. Or really look to stick and move with his boxing. No way he can think he is going to lock up with that beast head on and not get dumped on his head. He will for sure. Brock better not get carried away. I think if he paces himself and doesn't get careless, he wins the fight.
Anderson Silva said he wants to fight again as soon as November 15. Correct me if Im wrong, but dosent this takes place on November 15?
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